Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[classix410]

eventhough the inclusion of ridley is very unlikely at this point,If they can add Bowser Jr in his Clown kart ,why not ridley???
Just a thought...

 

[TheBrainJem]

eventhough the inclusion of ridley is very unlikely at this point,If they can add Bowser Jr in his Clown kart ,why not ridley???
Just a thought...

I'm pretty sure that Ridley has some of the highest chances of getting in the roster, way more than Bowser Jr. dose.

 

[SmilingMad]

eventhough the inclusion of ridley is very unlikely at this point,If they can add Bowser Jr in his Clown kart ,why not ridley???
Just a thought...

Unlikely? Not at all. Apparently, there is still space for 5 more characters on the roster.

 

[The Legendary Beast]

Dammit I thought we agreed no leak discussion!

Sorry dude, I know.

I would never have posted that if it didn't include Ridley.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

eventhough the inclusion of ridley is very unlikely at this point,If they can add Bowser Jr in his Clown kart ,why not ridley???
Just a thought...

They didn't added Bowser Jr yet. Is he on SSB4 official web site? No. So, he is not added yet.

 

[Donalp15]

Huh, great point. The music is a very conscious decision to make. So Tiki + the Id track was hinting at Robin (since he's the one with the original moveset and seems to be the spotlight character), while Tiki also was a good fit for Lucina. Ridley's music is obviously Ridley.

Hm, could the Skyward Sword theme be hinting at Impa since I don't think Impa has her own theme? Since the other music choices were very fitting, there must be an answer to this! XD I know this isn't super related to Ridley but if I can figure out a fitting answer for this, then the Trophy theory and Ridley's chances will be even closer to 100% real to me.

Could it possibly be a Skyward version of Zelda? With a different Down B. He has Toon Link so maybe he'll give a clone or semi clone for Zelda, since Impa and Groose aren't that important.

Impa does teach the song to Link, so there is a connection there.

 

[Eisendrachen]

I see NEW MEAT, leak discussion and WAVERING CONVICTIONS.

For the newcomers, welcome to the crew!

For everyone else, this is your daily reminder that Ridley's chances are 100%, and that leaks are FAKE unless SAKURAI HIMSELF confirms everything within them! Those of you who wish to believe otherwise are to report to High Command for deprogramming and summary execution.

 

[BlueBubbee]

If you cant see how a leak of the playable roster in SSB4 has anything to do with Ridley being a playable character in SSB4 then I dont know what to tell you

I don't know if you remember, but

This thread's for Ridley discussion in general, not just as playable.
(though obviously most of us would prefer that)

That said, this still isn't the leak thread. But this also isn't exclusively for Ridley's playability in Smash. This thread is about Ridley's role in Smash, whether it be boss or playable, and how he is to be portrayed in the upcoming installments.

So if any of you want to talk leaks, go to the discussion group and take it out of the Ridley thread. The mods don't appreciate this talk here, and neither do a lot of the people in this thread. If it is about that disgraceful leak, it doesn't belong here. If it doesn't pertain to Ridley, get it out.

The mods don't need extra work, their job is hard enough as it is. They don't need all of you talking about this leak where it doesn't belong. If we could all stay on topic, do you realize how much nicer the place would seem? I'm talking about in the long run, here.

Do you all really want the Ridley thread be known as the thread that is always off-topic? That reputation has already been starting to spread about us. I've seen it mentioned outright: "At least you stay on topic here, unlike some threads (the Ridley thread)". If you don't want that, I suggest we do something about that.


At least I know there are a few people here who are actually trying to do something about it. No names.


Sorry, I exploded. Welcome, new supporters!

 

[Yoshi Kirishima]

Impa does teach the song to Link, so there is a connection there.

Alright, I'm convinced it's Impa xD Now I'm back to believing Ridley will be in 100% from 99%

 

[AndreaAC]

Have patience, your grasshopper, and hone your skills. In due time...
Wait, grasshopper? Space grasshopper? Zebesian? Zebesians are insectoid too. Andrea are you a Zebesian? No?
Why did those old dirtbags call their apprentices grasshoppers anyway? No glasses?

I try, I swear.....but every time I draw something, I have to repeat it like 50 TIMES...JUST BECAUSE A GODDAMN LINE CAME OUT WRONG...! EVEN IF I HAVE DRAWN RIDLEY BEFORE!

This is my face after that....by pure luck I haven't thrown the tablet throught the window.....

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

I try, I swear.....but every time I draw something, I have to repeat it like 50 TIMES...JUST BECAUSE A GODDAMN LINE CAME OUT WRONG...! EVEN IF I HAVE DRAWN RIDLEY BEFORE!

This is my face after that....by pure luck I haven't thrown the tablet throught the window.....

Not sure if you've tried it before, but have you tried tracing your artwork? Like just drawing what you want with traditional pen-n-paper, and either tracing it while the drawing's on the tablet itself or scanning it in a separate layer?

Those are the best training wheels, in my opinion.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

I try, I swear.....but every time I draw something, I have to repeat it like 50 TIMES...JUST BECAUSE A GODDAMN LINE CAME OUT WRONG...! EVEN IF I HAVE DRAWN RIDLEY BEFORE!

This is my face after that....by pure luck I haven't thrown the tablet throught the window.....

Your face must be more Ridley. You are disowned from this thread. That joke is overused by me and only me and it has no exceptions/no one is immune to that.

Anyway, lets just report posts about that leak if it goes beyond 2 posts from the person who started it. This is not general or leak discussion.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I try, I swear.....but every time I draw something, I have to repeat it like 50 TIMES...JUST BECAUSE A GODDAMN LINE CAME OUT WRONG...! EVEN IF I HAVE DRAWN RIDLEY BEFORE!

This is my face after that....by pure luck I haven't thrown the tablet throught the window.....

Tablets take a long time to get used to for us traditional drawers, but once mastered it really does become your best friend.

Also, I swear, I don't even like the show anymore but I can still recognize exactly what episodes every one of these MLP gifs and emoticons come from, I'm annoyed at my own knowledge for some reason.

 

[TheBrainJem]

So what about Kraid being in Smash Run? How do you think that effects Ridley?

Personally I think it makes a playable Ridley more likely, in my opinion.

 

[AndreaAC]

Your face must be more Ridley. You are disowned from this thread. That joke is overused by me and only me and it has no exceptions/no one is immune to that.

Anyway, lets just report posts about that leak if it goes beyond 2 posts from the person who started it. This is not general or leak discussion.

sigh....FINE!

BETTER?

 

[MasterOfKnees]

So what about Kraid being in Smash Run? How do you think that effects Ridley?

Personally I think it makes a playable Ridley more likely, in my opinion.

I don't think it does much, they're on totally seperate systems and Ridley would fill a totally different boss role.

 

[AlwaysMilk]

Anyone sees the hint of Ridley is this week PotD? I mean I just might be me and I'm probably seeing this my self and I'm mostly likely wrong to these hints but...

Monday showed an Assist Trophy that was "BIG"
Tuesday showed something toward the Metroid Series
Wednsday showed something about Treasures which you can also relate to Pirates (Space Pirate)
And lastly Thursday showed a villain being as an Assist Trophy...

It just might be me but I have a hunce that the Ridley situation is going to be finally resolved tomorrow or later on.

 

[Eisendrachen]

Your face must be more Ridley. You are disowned from this thread. That joke is overused by me and only me and it has no exceptions/no one is immune to that.

Except for people with Ridley-related usernames, such as myself.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

sigh....FINE!

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BETTER?

Yeah, try tracing for a bit before going full digital. I was pretty rusty when I first traced your pic, but it's still somewhat decent.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

sigh....FINE!

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BETTER?

Yes. But this scene does not contains unholy breakdance/lambada mix (i now know what "lap dance" is thanks to the wiki, so, i won't use it because...um...i just won't). So, it is just an B, not A.

Except for people with Ridley-related usernames, such as myself.

Your name does not contains "Ridley" in it. I am RidleySmashBros on Youtube, so, i have it. You are half-disowned from this thread.

Hm...how would that unholy mix of breakdance and lambada look like when performed by Space Pirates and Ridley?

 

[Crocovile]

Ridley is quite interesting from a design standpoint, considering how he has changed over the course of the Metroid series.

Now, one thing that has always annoyed me about this fact is that the amount of digits Ridley possesses has been very inconsistent from game to game. In Super Metroid, he has four digits on each hand and three on each foot, then comes the Prime series where he is reduced to three digits for both hands and feet, this is reused in ZM and Fusion too. Then comes OM, where he has an increase to four digits on every limb (which he also has in the Super Metroid comic). Why can't they be consistent about this? It's so annoying.

Now, when you look at Ridley's concept art for OM, the muscles actually make sense from a biological standpoint (though still quite unrealistic). Why? Because when you look at vertebrates that can fly, you'll notice they have rather large muscles, especially in the chest area. That's why "chicken breasts" are a thing (though chickens can't actually fly though, but still (coincidentally, I suffer (well, not really suffer per say) from a condition known as "pigeon's chest")). So Ridley with large muscles should logically have a greater chance of being ablo to fly than "anorexic" Ridley. But then again, his wingspan is also not quite as useful designwise (very small base where the wing-membranes connect to the body), and Metroid is a series that tries to disguise itself as sci-fi but still is filled with space magic (seriously, as awesome as it is that Ridley can fly through space, how in the world is it actually possible?)

OM Ridley could certainly have been designed better, especially the teeth. But just because his beak looks flimsy in comparison to previous appearances, doesn't mean it actually is. Because when I think about it, OM Ridley's beak looks like it's better built to crush things when he bites. Blunt teeth and a wider base that narrows down along the beak itself. Because when you look at predatory animals, and how their teeth differs, you can quickly see what functions they are made for. Sharks have triangular razors to cut through flesh when they bite, crocodiles on the other hand have narrow teeth designed to ensure maximum grip when they clamp down. And when you look at it, doesn't OM Ridley's head kinda rescemble that of a crocodile? At least more than previous iterations. Crocs are after all famous for having the most poweful bite of all creatures on this planet.

And for those who call him a duck face, have you ever considered how much it hurts to get bitten by flatbilled birds, especially swans? Those things can do some nasty damage if you're not carefull. So when I look at it, previous designs of Ridley with the more narrow teeth and curved beak look more like they're designed to get a better grip to teaar flesh of prey with. OM Ridley on the other hand looks more like he's designed no crush skull and snap bones when he bites.

 

[DarkFalcon]

Anyone sees the hint of Ridley is this week PotD? I mean I just might be me and I'm probably seeing this my self and I'm mostly likely wrong to these hints but...

Monday showed an Assist Trophy that was "BIG"
Tuesday showed something toward the Metroid Series
Wednsday showed something about Treasures which you can also relate to Pirates (Space Pirate)
And lastly Thursday showed a villain being as an Assist Trophy...

It just might be me but I have a hunce that the Ridley situation is going to be finally resolved tomorrow or later on.

That's..uh...That's a stretch.

 

[BrigadeStuart]

Ridley is life

 

[Ridley_Prime]

...A convenient detail to forget

I guess I find it more plausible now.

One thing I just realized too, remember these little guys in Super Metroid's lower norfair that you encountered just one or two rooms before fighting Ridley?

Slight resemblance to Meta Knight... Ridley confirmed!
Sorry, couldn't resist.

Impa + Ridley mate.

Don't even think about shipping them.

It is.

I'm serious when I said that I've seen things...

Regardless, back to Ridley!

He's a cool dragon that fights death and isn't afraid of anything!

Kinda funny how much IsmaR stressed earlier for the leak discussion to not be continued here, only for another mod to later contribute to it. Can a mod give another mod warnings?

What items do you guys think will give Ridley an easier time while he is strolling through Smash Run? Any suggested items for those starting out in Smash Run as Ridley?

The Screw Attack item, if only because Samus seeing him use it would increase her rage, thus further fueling him.

I try, I swear.....but every time I draw something, I have to repeat it like 50 TIMES...JUST BECAUSE A GODDAMN LINE CAME OUT WRONG...! EVEN IF I HAVE DRAWN RIDLEY BEFORE!

This is my face after that....by pure luck I haven't thrown the tablet throught the window.....

You could always mail the tablet to me then. I'd be happy to use it.

What Dalek said about the tracing though. Like save an already existing Ridley image or fan-art, turn down the opacity of it from somewhere to fifty to seventy something percent, and start tracing it in a new layer. Trust me, I know my photoshop.

 

[Oracle_Summon]

MARIO LOOKS LIKE MARIO?!!

CALL THE PRESS, THIS IS HUGE!!!!!!

Seriously though, this isn't really the place for this discussion. I've been one of the more vocal critics of this image leak, but spreading it's discussion across the board isn't all that useful. I would suggest discussing the point about the laurels on the thread about evidence for or against this leak though. If we can find an in game screen of a team battle that doesn't have it for both (as it were), it would be another solid issue with the images.

No problem. It was more about Mario and Dr. Mario using the same exact posture instead of their looks.

The discussion was dropped a while ago as well.

Ridley Topic: What would be the best way to reveal Ridley? Tearing up Samus' ship? (Sorry if this question was asked before)

 

[TheBrainJem]

Your name does not contains "Ridley" in it. I am RidleySmashBros on Youtube, so, i have it.

I subscribed to your channel. Nice job on the Ridley models by the way.

 

[SmilingMad]

I try, I swear.....but every time I draw something, I have to repeat it like 50 TIMES...JUST BECAUSE A GODDAMN LINE CAME OUT WRONG...! EVEN IF I HAVE DRAWN RIDLEY BEFORE!

This is my face after that....by pure luck I haven't thrown the tablet throught the window.....

I don't know how luck factors into not throwing a graphical tablet out of any form of aperture, unless you haven't found its hiding spot yet. If that's the case, well, I've heard tablets like dark, enclosed spaces. If you have a bag, it's probably in there.
Not that you should throw it out of the window anyway.

Uh, semi-humorous tangent aside, you could try a more sketchy approach. Like, make lines with repeated short and thinner lines. That's kind of how I do stuff I guess, but it may not work for you. I have the same issue with trying to make lines in one fluid motion.

Uh. Ridley! Ridley Ridley!

Anyone sees the hint of Ridley is this week PotD? I mean I just might be me and I'm probably seeing this my self and I'm mostly likely wrong to these hints but...

Monday showed an Assist Trophy that was "BIG"
Tuesday showed something toward the Metroid Series
Wednsday showed something about Treasures which you can also relate to Pirates (Space Pirate)
And lastly Thursday showed a villain being as an Assist Trophy...

It just might be me but I have a hunce that the Ridley situation is going to be finally resolved tomorrow or later on.

Another straw! Perfect! Place it right there, on top of that giant hill made out of straws!
And then the big bad wolf came over and had a hysterical sneezing fit.

Ridley is quite interesting from a design standpoint, considering how he has changed over the course of the Metroid series.

Now, one thing that has always annoyed me about this fact is that the amount of digits Ridley possesses has been very inconsistent from game to game. In Super Metroid, he has four digits on each hand and three on each foot, then comes the Prime series where he is reduced to three digits for both hands and feet, this is reused in ZM and Fusion too. Then comes OM, where he has an increase to four digits on every limb (which he also has in the Super Metroid comic). Why can't they be consistent about this? It's so annoying.

Now, when you look at Ridley's concept art for OM, the muscles actually make sense from a biological standpoint (though still quite unrealistic). Why? Because when you look at vertebrates that can fly, you'll notice they have rather large muscles, especially in the chest area. That's why "chicken breasts" are a thing (though chickens can't actually fly though, but still (coincidentally, I suffer (well, not really suffer per say) from a condition known as "pigeon's chest")). So Ridley with large muscles should logically have a greater chance of being ablo to fly than "anorexic" Ridley. But then again, his wingspan is also not quite as useful designwise (very small base where the wing-membranes connect to the body), and Metroid is a series that tries to disguise itself as sci-fi but still is filled with space magic (seriously, as awesome as it is that Ridley can fly through space, how in the world is it actually possible?)

OM Ridley could certainly have been designed better, especially the teeth. But just because his beak looks flimsy in comparison to previous appearances, doesn't mean it actually is. Because when I think about it, OM Ridley's beak looks like it's better built to crush things when he bites. Blunt teeth and a wider base that narrows down along the beak itself. Because when you look at predatory animals, and how their teeth differs, you can quickly see what functions they are made for. Sharks have triangular razors to cut through flesh when they bite, crocodiles on the other hand have narrow teeth designed to ensure maximum grip when they clamp down. And when you look at it, doesn't OM Ridley's head kinda rescemble that of a crocodile? At least more than previous iterations. Crocs are after all famous for having the most poweful bite of all creatures on this planet.

And for those who call him a duck face, have you ever considered how much it hurts to get bitten by flatbilled birds, especially swans? Those things can do some nasty damage if you're not carefull. So when I look at it, previous designs of Ridley with the more narrow teeth and curved beak look more like they're designed to get a better grip to teaar flesh of prey with. OM Ridley on the other hand looks more like he's designed no crush skull and snap bones when he bites.

Very nice analysis! Though really, I believe that beak was solely chosen because they thought it looked nice.

 

[Oracle_Summon]

I subscribed to your channel. Nice job on the Ridley models by the way.

Welcome to Smash Boards TheBrainJemin, and I agreed with you while I was lurking at the Know Your Meme Website. The hate for Ridley there is very unjust.

 

[AlwaysMilk]

That's..uh...That's a stretch.

Stretch or so... We all know that Sakurai can be unpredicatable at this point so it won't harm if we start being unpredictable

 

[AndreaAC]

Yes. But this scene does not contains unholy breakdance/lambada mix (i now know what "lap dance" is thanks to the wiki, so, i won't use it because...um...i just won't). So, it is just an B, not A

GODDAMNIT BAGAN!

I REALLY NEED TO BE CALM....

 

[TheBrainJem]

Ridley Topic: What would be the best way to reveal Ridley? Tearing up Samus' ship? (Sorry if this question was asked before)

Best way to reveal him in a trailer? Defiantly on the Pyroshere, where it all began.
If they choose to reveal more than one character in the trailer like they did with Robin and Lucina and Captain Falcon, I hope Ridley is the last character in the trailer to be show, to make it more epic.

 

[TheBrainJem]

Stretch or so... We all know that Sakurai can be unpredicatable at this point so it won't harm if we start being unpredictable

Just like Sakurai intended!

Welcome to Smash Boards TheBrainJemin, and I agreed with you while I was lurking at the Know Your Meme Website. The hate for Ridley there is very unjust.

Yeah, people on KnowYourMeme hate Ridley with a passion for some reason, I wish I knew why. Most Ridley supporters there kept quite, but I tend to speak out about it. When you got an opinion, you got to stand by it no matter how much hate you get for it.

 

[Eisendrachen]

Your name does not contains "Ridley" in it. I am RidleySmashBros on Youtube, so, i have it. You are half-disowned from this thread.

Try stepping back two degrees. I'm with Science Team, therefore more intelligent than the average Space Pirate.

Best way to reveal him in a trailer? Defiantly on the Pyroshere, where it all began.

Other M entrance is mandatory.

 

[SmilingMad]

I just realized Ridley isn't the only thing from Metroid that is "Too Big".

Spoiler

I'm pretty sure these things are usually smaller.

 

[Crocovile]

One thing I'd like to point out when it comes to people claiming that Ridley's wings would take up too much space.

Wings. They fold. Seriously, is it that hard to grasp? You don't see birds walking around with their wings spread out all the time, why? Because it isn't practical, that's why.

@ AndreaAC relax, take some deep breaths and try to stay calm. I sympathise with you, getting used to a tablet wasn't easy for me either when I first got one. I too get annoyed when I suddenly see a big straight line where there isn't supposed to be one, does whatever program you use have a history feature? Because those help a lot.

@ TheBrainJem try to avoid doubleposting, it's generally frowned upon. Just edit your previous post if you have more to say but nobody else's posted yet.

Very nice analysis! Though really, I believe that beak was solely chosen because they thought it looked nice.

Yeah, I can see that being the most likely possibility.

 

[AndreaAC]

You could always mail the tablet to me then. I'd be happy to use it.

What Dalek said about the tracing though. Like save an already existing Ridley image or fan-art, turn down the opacity of it from somewhere to fifty to seventy something percent, and start tracing it in a new layer. Trust me, I know my photoshop.

Heh...heh....nice joke.... :3

I mean....I did that with my PRECIOUS Ridley coasters....but I think the pen tool is way painful than the brush tool.....

 

[BaganSmashBros]

I subscribed to your channel. Nice job on the Ridley models by the way.

Oh. Who exactly are you? Thanks anyway.

Ridley is quite interesting from a design standpoint, considering how he has changed over the course of the Metroid series.

Now, one thing that has always annoyed me about this fact is that the amount of digits Ridley possesses has been very inconsistent from game to game. In Super Metroid, he has four digits on each hand and three on each foot, then comes the Prime series where he is reduced to three digits for both hands and feet, this is reused in ZM and Fusion too. Then comes OM, where he has an increase to four digits on every limb (which he also has in the Super Metroid comic). Why can't they be consistent about this? It's so annoying.

Now, when you look at Ridley's concept art for OM, the muscles actually make sense from a biological standpoint (though still quite unrealistic). Why? Because when you look at vertebrates that can fly, you'll notice they have rather large muscles, especially in the chest area. That's why "chicken breasts" are a thing (though chickens can't actually fly though, but still (coincidentally, I suffer (well, not really suffer per say) from a condition known as "pigeon's chest")). So Ridley with large muscles should logically have a greater chance of being ablo to fly than "anorexic" Ridley. But then again, his wingspan is also not quite as useful designwise (very small base where the wing-membranes connect to the body), and Metroid is a series that tries to disguise itself as sci-fi but still is filled with space magic (seriously, as awesome as it is that Ridley can fly through space, how in the world is it actually possible?)

OM Ridley could certainly have been designed better, especially the teeth. But just because his beak looks flimsy in comparison to previous appearances, doesn't mean it actually is. Because when I think about it, OM Ridley's beak looks like it's better built to crush things when he bites. Blunt teeth and a wider base that narrows down along the beak itself. Because when you look at predatory animals, and how their teeth differs, you can quickly see what functions they are made for. Sharks have triangular razors to cut through flesh when they bite, crocodiles on the other hand have narrow teeth designed to ensure maximum grip when they clamp down. And when you look at it, doesn't OM Ridley's head kinda rescemble that of a crocodile? At least more than previous iterations. Crocs are after all famous for having the most poweful bite of all creatures on this planet.

And for those who call him a duck face, have you ever considered how much it hurts to get bitten by flatbilled birds, especially swans? Those things can do some nasty damage if you're not carefull. So when I look at it, previous designs of Ridley with the more narrow teeth and curved beak look more like they're designed to get a better grip to teaar flesh of prey with. OM Ridley on the other hand looks more like he's designed no crush skull and snap bones when he bites.

Nice analisis. I know how it feels when you are bitten by a geese/goose/whatever. And how satisfying is it to see them all getting killed on my eyes and then eating them without hot sauce.
Now i need someone to tell me why Ridley's Anthony's Plasma Beam wound is RED while his blood is GREEN and every other wound is GREEN?

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GODDAMNIT BAGAN!

I REALLY NEED TO BE CALM....

Calm down then. By either drawing or senseless destruction/violence. Or mayeb by looking at cute cat images, like i do when first 2 don't work (with posing models instead of drawing). Nice Ridley image by the way.

I just realized Ridley isn't the only thing from Metroid that is "Too Big".

Spoiler

I'm pretty sure these things are usually smaller.

You forgot Phantoon. Just look how BIG he got after Super Metroid.

 

[Oracle_Summon]

Yeah, people on KnowYourMeme hate Ridley with a passion for some reason, I wish I knew why. Most Ridley supporters there kept quite, but I tend to speak out about it. When you got an opinion, you got to stand by it no matter how much hate you get for it.

Exactly. "Stick to your Guns" as the saying goes. As for me, I will support Ridley to the bitter end, even if I am the only one left doing it.

 

[Con0rrrr]

@BluePikmin11 i saw what you were saying.

That leak with Ridley + Ninka was before Neo and I ever showed any evidence that Ninka was legit.

Judging by that, Ridley is still bery likely in my eyes

 

[Eisendrachen]

Exactly. "Stick to your Guns" as the saying goes. As for me, I will support Ridley to the bitter end, even if I am the only one left doing it.

The awesome thing is, you won't be.