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Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

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I actually think this video someone posted earlier had a pretty nice Ridley-Hack, but maybe thats because i haven't seen many videos of those...

The difference there is that it's a different model snapped to Charizard's rig (read, skeleton). It looks better at first glance, but when you actually watch it the movement is terrible. But once again, that's meta Ridley, not Roidley. I don't think a Roidley model would snap to Charizard's rig well either, though.

Question, how much internet does online gaming take up? Because we usually go through a lot of Internet.
I think it takes up 3 or 4 internets.

Do you mean bandwidth? Gaming with the Wii U doesn't eat a lot of bandwidth, unless you're downloading full games every day. Watching HD Netflix will cost you, though.
 
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I could imagine Anthony in his announcement trailer now.

Samus is being overwhelmed by a large amount of Kihunters and Space Pirates, and out of the blue a large plasma beam cuts through them like butter. Samus turns around to see Anthony Higgs, the camera zooms in on him as he repositions his plasma gun over his shoulder and he lifts up his helmet. "Remember me?" The camera stays on him briefly enough for us to assume he's getting his own splash tagline, yet before that happens, he's covered by an ominous shadow and a knife tail swats him over a cliff with no effort at all. Ridley touches down and shares a brief stare with Samus, and lets out a defening screech. His splash banner reads "Ridley won't be overshadowed!" Gameplay footage of Ridley plays.
You know funny you mention it

Ever since we got 4 fire emblem reps in my head it's saying 4 metroid repa could happen (the 3rd and the 4th being ridley the space dragon we all want, and anothony being remembered.)


RIDLEY NOT POPULAR IN JAPAN MY BOTTOM.

Hey were was those fan art pictures that the japan guys made.

Especially the one of ridley sitting on the throne looking bored.
 
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The difference there is that it's a different model snapped to Charizard's rig (read, skeleton). It looks better at first glance, but when you actually watch it the movement is terrible. But once again, that's meta Ridley, not Roidley. I don't think a Roidley model would snap to Charizard's rig well either, though.
Just liked the attacks he had, Pogo Tail of Doom and that kind-of-epic looking Fireball. Some movements do seem bad though, i agree. Well if they would give him that moveset he wouldn't be close to a charizard clone so they wouldn't use charizards rig anyway. "They" being Nintendo.
 
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The difference there is that it's a different model snapped to Charizard's rig (read, skeleton). It looks better at first glance, but when you actually watch it the movement is terrible. But once again, that's meta Ridley, not Roidley. I don't think a Roidley model would snap to Charizard's rig well either, though.



I think it takes up 3 or 4 internets.

Do you mean bandwidth? Gaming with the Wii U doesn't eat a lot of bandwidth, unless you're downloading full games every day. Watching HD Netflix will cost you, though.
Not sure what Bandwidth is, but do you have a Gigabyte estimate?
 

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Just liked the attacks he had, Pogo Tail of Doom and that kind-of-epic looking Fireball. Some movements do seem bad though, i agree. Well if they would give him that moveset he wouldn't be close to a charizard clone so they wouldn't use charizards rig anyway. "They" being Nintendo.
Well, yeah. I was only talking about mods in that case. Ridley would definitely get his own rig.

when I talked about movements, I hadn't meant attacks, I agree some of those look decent. I meant the actual walking/punching/jumping stuff, which I'm sure you saw.

Not sure what Bandwidth is, but do you have a Gigabyte estimate?
Bandwidth is the measure of how much data is being used. The higher bandwidth, the faster you can do stuff, or the more stuff you can do at once. A good metaphor is that the bandwidth is the actual width of the cable, and the wider it is, the more internet can get through at once.

I don't have an estimate for how much the Wii U takes up. It's going to be different depending on what you're doing. Things like streaming video (which the wii U can do) often take a lot more bandwidth than playing a game online. But if you don't have enough upload or download speed (which are different depending on your provider and plan) it can cause lag in game. Also, if more people in your house are using the internet at once, especially if someone else is doing something that takes up a lot of bandwidth (like watching netflix), it will most likely lag your game.
 
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This is clever but it made my inner Charizard fan cry a little bit.

@BlueBubbee while brawl Ridley is obviously a horrible choice to try to map to charizard, what about Roidley? The proportions are a little more similar.
Imagine Roidley with T-Rex arms. There's your problem.
 

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RIDLEY NOT POPULAR IN JAPAN MY BOTTOM.

Hey were was those fan art pictures that the japan guys made.

Especially the one of ridley sitting on the throne looking bored.
One person drawing Ridley in Japan doesn't mean he is popular there. lol
 

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I don't have an estimate for how much the Wii U takes up. It's going to be different depending on what you're doing. Things like streaming video (which the wii U can do) often take a lot more bandwidth than playing a game online. But if you don't have enough upload or download speed (which are different depending on your provider and plan) it can cause lag in game. Also, if more people in your house are using the internet at once, especially if someone else is doing something that takes up a lot of bandwidth (like watching netflix), it will most likely lag your game.
I think he has a limited amount of data he can transfer before his internet gets slowed down to hell, and wants to know how much of that he would use up for each, let's say, 10 minute online match.
 
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I think he has a limited amount of data he can transfer before his internet gets slowed down to hell, and wants to know how much of that he would use up for each, let's say, 10 minute online match.
That's not how bandwidth works... I thought he was talking about an internet service plan(router), not a data plan(smartphone). He'll have to specify.
 

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RIDLEY NOT POPULAR IN JAPAN MY BOTTOM.

Hey were was those fan art pictures that the japan guys made.

Especially the one of ridley sitting on the throne looking bored.
My guess is that Ridley has a cult(ish) following in Japan, that might be somewhat vocal but not loud enough to make a dent in the character polls there.

Basically, he might be their Takamaru or Shulk.
 

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Just liked the attacks he had, Pogo Tail of Doom and that kind-of-epic looking Fireball. Some movements do seem bad though, i agree. Well if they would give him that moveset he wouldn't be close to a charizard clone so they wouldn't use charizards rig anyway. "They" being Nintendo.
That moveset is actually quite nice (considering fandone) and proves beyond argue that Ridley could work as a charcater WITHOUTH looking awkward. (this argumnent is almost as bad as the too big, but it have been made before)
Now imagine if that moveset, model, and animations were done by a profesional team with lots of experience.
 

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Nintendo Directs are announced roughly 48 hours before the Direct goes live, so there's still some time before a hypothetical August 6th Direct. I'm thinking an August 13th Direct is more likely though, as a "30 Days left" Smash Direct like Mario Kart 8's was.
 

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Nintendo Directs are announced roughly 48 hours before the Direct goes live, so there's still some time before a hypothetical August 6th Direct. I'm thinking an August 13th Direct is more likely though, as a "30 Days left" Smash Direct like Mario Kart 8's was.
Still near the 6th though. I don't know for sure if Feb's direct was ON punch out arcade's day of birth.
 

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Still no direct date its looking grim for a august 6th direct.
We are still in July... if there is no announcement of an August Direct until the 20th, then you can start worrying.

I am fairly sure a Direct will happen around the 10th, though.
 

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Still near the 6th though. I don't know for sure if Feb's direct was ON punch out arcade's day of birth.
It wasn't. I just don't think a 8-6 Direct is likely. 8-13 sounds more plausible and appropriate, as both a "one month left" kind of thing, and to separate it from Robin's reveal enough.

The fateful day Ridley ascended from space hell is more or less irrelevant.
 
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It wasn't. I just don't think a 8-6 Direct is likely. 8-13 sounds more plausible and appropriate, as both a "one month left" kind of thing, and to separate it from Robin's reveal enough.

The fateful day Ridley ascended from space hell is more or less irrelevant.
As far as Nintendo Directs that had Smash content go, the dates were:
Dec 18th - Rosalina
Feb 14th - Little Mac
April 8th - Greninja
June 10th - Mii/Palutena/Pac-Man
So we can probably assume it'll be within the first half of the month.

It is worth noting though that last years August Direct was on August 7th.

Edit: Also, Robin/Lucina was July 14th, again within the first half of the month.
 
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As far as Nintendo Directs that had Smash content go, the dates were:
Dec 18th - Rosalina
Feb 14th - Little Mac
April 8th - Greninja
June 10th - Mii/Palutena/Pac-Man
So we can probably assume it'll be within the first half of the month.

It is worth noting though that last years August Direct was on August 7th.
Ridley confirmed
 

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Ridley confirmed
Metroid anniversary, the anniversary of a full year of Ridley teasing coming up, having the most potential to generate (Western) hype...
Signs do point to Ridley. It's just too perfect not to be.
 

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Metroid anniversary, the anniversary of a full year of Ridley teasing coming up, having the most potential to generate (Western) hype...
Signs do point to Ridley. It's just too perfect not to be.
Western hype is the most needed, in Japan everyone owns a Wii U. Mario Kart 8 helps here, but It's still barely doing better than XBANE
 

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We've read so much AndreaAC (tm) that we know all the moves at this point

Still want more xD
OK...then you want Rids and Roids with T-rex arms.....while Roidley dances....Ridley looks annoyed....or even better, Ridley cursing because he can't punch Roidley in the face with such tiny arms........?
 

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OK...then you want Rids and Roids with T-rex arms.....while Roidley dances....Ridley looks annoyed....or even better, Ridley cursing because he can't punch Roidley in the face with such tiny arms........?
I only request the pair with T-rex arms. The rest is up to your imagination, do as you see fit xD
 
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OK...then you want Rids and Roids with T-rex arms.....while Roidley dances....Ridley looks annoyed....or even better, Ridley cursing because he can't punch Roidley in the face with such tiny arms........?
Reminds me of this gem:

Roidley would be the left (of course) and Ridley would be the right.

Except Ridley's reaction would obviously be harsher than the one that the right dinosaur had.

:laugh:
 

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We're gonna be entering Norfair soon guys. Crashboards is inevitable and Ridley's gonna roar.
Let's just all march onward on this final bit of our Jounrey towards ultimate Ridleyness.
 

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The stars are aligning guys. Commence the ritual and quickly find a sacrifice.
 

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As far as Nintendo Directs that had Smash content go, the dates were:
Dec 18th - Rosalina
Feb 14th - Little Mac
April 8th - Greninja
June 10th - Mii/Palutena/Pac-Man
So we can probably assume it'll be within the first half of the month.

It is worth noting though that last years August Direct was on August 7th.

Edit: Also, Robin/Lucina was July 14th, again within the first half of the month.
So the days on average are around the 10th. So 8-13 works for me.



My perception on Ridley, since I've never gone over it myself here: the large size is inconsequential, but I can see an issue with Ridley's lankiness. To me, it seems like his many awkward features like his hunched torso and extremely twiggy neck could create graphical issues and unsightly quirks when running at 60 FPS for stuff like dodge rolling, tilting, etc. Other M Ridley ironically would be better to implement in that case due to having a more rounded body like Bowser.


That said, if Hal and Namco can make it work, they'll make it work. Ridley would take the Pac-Man route for appearance - having the more Smash-y look as the character model, with the other prevalent look for something else. In this case, Ridley using a conglomeration of his Super Metroid and Zero Mission look, with Other M Ridley being Ridley's Final Smash with its own moves and techniques, similar to Yoshi's Super Dragon and Mega Charizard X oh, look at that. Two Dragons with similar Final Smashes in terms of effect. Let's get the third dragon into this game as well. OM Ridley perpetually flying like he seems to be in the Smash Direct footage is an indicator of that...just without the Final Smash filter effect like those had....huh. :/
 
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Whether Ridley is confirmed or deconfirmed, it will be Crashboards. I pray to our Lord Ridley for confirmation crashing.

So the days on average are around the 10th. So 8-13 works for me.



My perception on Ridley, since I've never gone over it myself here: the large size is inconsequential, but I can see an issue with Ridley's lankiness. To me, it seems like his many awkward features like his hunched torso and extremely twiggy neck could create graphical issues and unsightly quirks when running at 60 FPS for stuff like dodge rolling, tilting, etc. Other M Ridley ironically would be better to implement in that case due to having a more rounded body like Bowser.


That said, if Hal and Namco can make it work, they'll make it work. Ridley would take the Pac-Man route for appearance - having the more Smash-y look as the character model, with the other prevalent look for something else. In this case, Ridley using a conglomeration of his Super Metroid and Zero Mission look, with Other M Ridley being Ridley's Final Smash with its own moves and techniques, similar to Yoshi's Super Dragon and Mega Charizard X. OM Ridley perpetually flying like he seems to be in the Smash Direct footage is an indicator of that...just without the Final Smash filter effect like those had....huh. :/
There was someone that said, that, judging from the shadow on pyrosphere, it looks to be a mashup of Prime and Other M Ridley.
 
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hey guys. Does anyone have a link to a most wanted character poll or a for or against Ridley type poll? i'm just wondering what the opinion of the masses is when it comes to the great one's inclusion.
 

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hey guys. Does anyone have a link to a most wanted character poll or a for or against Ridley type poll? i'm just wondering what the opinion of the masses is when it comes to the great one's inclusion.
I don't think many people are really "against" new characters, except for those who think that characters are chosen to fit a random numerical limit. It's more a question of who we may want more.
 
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