The Real Up-B Cancel

[Sensei Seibrik]

Think I found a way to cancel Link's Up in half, hitboxes in tact, without the use of bombs, getting hit, or falling off the stage. Here's the thread link.


http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=2195630#post2195630


Link players, tell me wat ya'all think.

 

[d2Law89]

That's an interesting discovery you've made ^^. However...I don't really see a use for it in 1v1 matches besides flashiness, but for team battles it'd be great. Good Job!

 

[Starzonedge]

Floridian smashers are known for their technicality for a **** good reason. Nice discovery.

 

[SLH]

can you still get off the semi-spike when you time it right? that'd make is so crazy useful

not that it isn't already

 

[Sensei Seibrik]

the whole reason for this is to use it for its spike edge guard, but only have half the lag afterwards, so u can do something else right after, or even just follow it up with another up b.

 

[Skler]

So even when it goes off the stage it remains a grounded upB because you land back on it? That's pretty cool.

Edit: I'd imagine that since you leave the stage it ends up being an ariel upB (seeing as if it was grounded hitting the ground wouldn't cancel it). Make a video of it hitting while you do it.

 

[Shiri]

Nice, nice. It's not new, though...Kubuu's been doing this for years.

It's still good to see more people can do it, though. ^_^

 

[Sensei Seibrik]

I was thikning about doing that. The thing is, I think the UP-B initially starts on the stage, then he falls off, but since im DIing back, he lands again, canceling the attack. It's complicated and very hard to do. lol

 

[SLH]

are you sure it's the DI and not just a very specific timing? i've done it plenty of times without DI towards the stage, and when i just tried this couldn't get it more than once or twice.

 

[Sensei Seibrik]

I do it with DI, but then again I havn't tried without DI, so it could very well be specific timing, if so it's easier than I thought and I will devote alot of time to getting that timing down.

 

[SLH]

hmm. unless it was a one time thing, it doesn't have the same effect of a normal spin attack. i just tried in training mode, and all it did was stun, with no knockback, exactly like what the normal spinhog does

edit: a couple of times it didn't hit at all, and just went through the computer completely

 

[Sensei Seibrik]

perhaps it might do something else if the opponent is in the air?

 

[SLH]

doubt it. it's basically the spinhog, without falling off the stage. both are basically a falling/grounded aerial up-b.

it could still be useful, though. depending on how long it stuns them for, it could combo into another move.

 

[Sensei Seibrik]

yes, like another up b lol

 

[Fefnir Cerveau]

Sorry, I double posted....

 

[Fefnir Cerveau]

That's pretty cool. I'm gonna go show my friends =D

 

[tHrilla`]

this move is unnecessary

 

[Stryk9]

how is even the original up b edge gaurd done? Liek when he ups then edgehogs

i cant find hwo to do this in any guides?

edit sory i searched the forum no answer needed

 

[Dark_Crono]

you know it could be really helpful in platforms.

 

[Sensei Seibrik]

perhaps, considering its even possible, havn't tried it

 

[ancientevil11]

this isnt really new...at least i have done it before...i guess no one really said anything about it.

off topic: Seibrik, im one of the players you were supposed to play in the crew battle thingy. im lavagolem123's brother. when is this thing gonna happen?

 

[Dark_Crono]

hey seibrik i cant do it on platforms, you can?

 

[mkmelee]

So does anyone know if it spikes?

 

[LHG]

That's the first time I've seen that. That's pretty cool, might try it out.

 

[THE AVENGER]

So does anyone know if it spikes?

it dosent and how is this useful.

 

[Skler]

No good knockback = aerial spin = useless . It looks nice though. Doesn't stun long enough for any combos to be done off it, so it is just a random flashy thing you can do, like setting bombs on the ground.

 

[Sensei Seibrik]

actually, NickRiddle, the Link in our crew was able to use this in a match, and it spiked. I'm not sure how he did it to spike, but I will find out.

 

[Dark_Crono]

ya i could do it today playing in fountain of dreams and i think you have to hit him with your hat when youre doing the up b and it is possible in platforms, and i think sometimes depends on the way link screams doing the up b.