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>the roster has been completely chosen from day 1
Yeah I know it can't change and I still think he's in anyways. Fire Emblem has always had a secret character right? Sakurai already announced 4 characters in the Fire Emblem series and if any series as 4+ characters Fire Emblem would make sense. And who would make a better Fire Emblem secret character than our boy, Roy? Even if Roy doesn't make it in he can still get in through the dark and foggy route of DLC.
>yeah i know it can't change
Just stop. Roy is no Sonic; if he wasn't chosen from day one then he's not getting in now. There isn't nearly enough demand for that to happen, and your Facebook group isn't going to change anything. The amount of pages in this thread should be indicative of that already. Sorry if I'm coming off harsh, but you keep saying "if we do something things can change" and it's getting kind of annoying.
Heh, makes me laugh to see Chrom and Micaiah be at the bottom most of the time. One gets doubled a lot and the other's bland as they come.
hopefully so.
lolwut?
If they had a bit more time, I wonder how he would have played...
probably the same as melee? not that hard to guess.
(Prepares to have dreams of a favourite main ruined.) 
Well, a prominent flaw he has in FE6 is that he promotes really late -and FE6 is one of the hardest entries in the series, that says a lot-. As in, in Chapter 22, that's the Final Chapter (if you're not going for the True Ending). Another flaw that he has is that his growth rate is entirely based on luck from your part, either he turns out to be good or he is just okay-ish. Also everyone expects their protagonists to be undoubtful, no-questioning badasses like Hector and Ephraim. I like those two, but the stereotype is overrated to be honest.By the way, some people say Roy's the worst Lord in Fire Emblem (I know it's kinda hard for me to hear some things like that, given that he and Marth are what got me into the series), but could you at least explain what Roy's faults are in his game, not just his stats, but personality. Does he stop growing as a character, is he not a likeable character, or does he not do much compared to other characters?
Despite this, I can't really say I hate a single character in Fire Emblem except Aversa. She's way too overly sexualised, not to mention that she hogs Shadowgift to herself (when characters like Robin, Henry, Tharja really need it the most, Robin especially now that he uses Nosferatu in Smash Bros).
He's the main character, luck is not how a main character should be based. If Roy dies it's game over, do you really want to let your game be decided by luck?
In a game like FE, obviously the players are going to be elitists. The popularity of a character equals how useful they are in the battlefield for them. And Roy is an unit who is literally forced to keep around. In the end he's better staying behind.
My thoughts are the same.
I'd be especially happy if Roy made it back as DLC, but yeah, it looks like he might never come back to Smash Bros, the game that established his series' current fame with Awakening.
(The Smash Brethren DLC is fun, and I guess it makes up for Roy not being in Brawl. )
It's almost like tier listing.
It basically is. Unlike FE13, previous Fire Emblem games didn't let you reclass at will, and specially you couldn't go back to an initial class. Units only had one promotion and that's it, plus the story was with absolutely no skirmishes (except if you count FE2 and FE8), so it's clear that players will be using the most useful units if they want to beat the game.It's almost like tier listing.
Well, making him weaker forces you to play more strategically since you'd lose if he dies. So I personally wouldn't mind.
Harsh
Yeah, that's a good design choice since it makes you worry more about him, but at the same time it will cause you to be more frustrated when dealing with him to the point where you don't even wanna bring him to missions.
I started with FE6 and I'll say it's probably my best experience when commencing with a new franchise. It definitely sealed (heh) the fact that I'd love the entire franchise. Even with it's crazy difficulty! What I say it's a complain that a lot of people have but in the end, well, it gives us a really challenging game. I liked it for that, and yeah Roy can easily catch up after that, but the fact of having to babysit him is kinda annoying. Either way, Roy does become a killing machine when he promotes, and with the Binding Blade/Sword of Seals, he's -almost- unstoppable.
If you want a better challenge, try FE4 and 5. They are the best and nothing passes them in the series.
Already did. FE4 was actually a bit too long and slow-paced for my tastes. Plus the many different armies made it a bit difficult to follow. And FE5 is not hard in a fair way, if you understand what I'm talking about. I'll give you the fog of war, but missing a heal?
I find that if you want to make the story well done with couples and all that in 5, then you must pay enough attention. But agreed in a certain way. So you've played them all?
More or less, yeah. Except the NES ones. FE4 was a one-play only since I did find the pairing mechanic and the jealousy system too complex, again with the many different factions. Plus the maps being ridiculously big makes it even more complex. I prefer small, yet challenging maps.
he pretty much has no character whatsoever.By the way, some people say Roy's the worst Lord in Fire Emblem (I know it's kinda hard for me to hear some things like that, given that he and Marth are what got me into the series), but could you at least explain what Roy's faults are in his game, not just his stats, but personality. Does he stop growing as a character, is he not a likeable character, or does he not do much compared to other characters?
Despite this, I can't really say I hate a single character in Fire Emblem except Aversa. She's way too overly sexualised, not to mention that she hogs Shadowgift to herself (when characters like Robin, Henry, Tharja really need it the most, Robin especially now that he uses Nosferatu in Smash Bros).
Well....Chrom becomes kinda useless once Lucina hits the scene, she has an INFINITE WEAPON THAT KILLS RELIABLY MOST OF THE TIME, (Sumia and Female Robin are awesome) and friggin Galeforce. Add that she has better Skill and Speed and with better Skill set, she is way better than Chrom. Chrom is not bad by any means, but he is boring, monotone, has limited skill pool and has trouble with his mediocre skill and speed later on in the Valm chapters, unless you pair him up. Lucina ***** those chapters any day of the week, unless we are talking about Lunatic mode. Roy sucks and every other character not named Wendy, Sophia, or Jeigan is better than him in every single way. Leif of Thracia is worse than Roy though.
No, Leif is the worst. At least Roy has growths and stats, Leif has Jeigan growths, in other words, almost nothing, and he needs to be in every level of the game, and because AI likes to gang **** lords and the RNG is really cruel in Thracia, Leif will die and die like a billion times. Roy has nothing interesting to look at other that he has a harem composed by a stalker nomad, a pegasus knight, a mage princess
You already told me that he was the worst. But yeah, pretty much.
Oh already?
I just don't look at the old posts so I didn't remember. But, Roy has a harem.
This is new to me, but it's still pretty great.Oh already?
I really like the way you express yourself. It's very special. I remember when you were talking about how Arvis burns people like Sigurd and afterwards STEALS their wives. You also added a bunch of other things that didn't make any sense.
Well I definitely think he should but I highly doubt it will happen. They're the two most popular cut characters from Melee so it'd really be cool if they returned together.