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The Forest Master Rises! Sceptile for Smash Bros! Over 100 supporters!!!

KingCasual

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Well... Only one month of the ballot remains. No matter who wins, getting any kind of Sm4sh news at this point would be greatly appreciated.
Wow, just one month. I remember when the ballot first came to be I thought the October deadline was a looong way away. Now it's almost over, it's the homestretch, we need to vote as much as we can. If Sceptile doesn't get in at least it wasn't for lack of trying!
 
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Hopefully the Ballot ends well for Sceptile. I really am wnjoyng supporting him. After all, we need another Pokemon to complete he trio of Fire, Water, and GRASS type pokemon. I hope the best for this thread, and i wish everybody goodluck for the DLC vote in October!
 

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Thanks for your support! To be honest, it would be really cool to have both Sceptile and Dragonite playable in a Smash game. It's a shame that there's only a limited amount of slots available for characters. There are so many Pokémon that would work well in Smash and be unique.

I had another idea for Sceptile. These could be his alts:
1) Blue body with dark blue tail and light blue seed pods
2) Pink body with red tail and dark red seed pods
3) Lavender body with purple tail and violet seed pods
4) Light yellow body with yellow tail and green seed pods
5) Gray body with black tail and white seed pods
6) Orange body with dark orange tail and yellow-orange seed pods
7) Dark brown body with brown tail and black seed pods
I'd totally main number 2.
 

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Besides Sceptile, what is everyone's second most-wanted DLC character? The other characters I would love to see make it in are Yooka and Laylee, but I feel their chances are even lower than Sceptile's.
 

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Besides Sceptile, what is everyone's second most-wanted DLC character? The other characters I would love to see make it in are Yooka and Laylee, but I feel their chances are even lower than Sceptile's.
Sceptile is actually my 4th most requested. Above him are Snake at number 3, Krystal at number 2, and Wolf at number 1. Even then, Sceptile and Snake butt heads because they switch positions very often. I can't quite make up my mind, so I guess their tied.
 

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Besides Sceptile, what is everyone's second most-wanted DLC character? The other characters I would love to see make it in are Yooka and Laylee, but I feel their chances are even lower than Sceptile's.
Only other character I'd really want is Banjo Kazooie, other than him I'd rather the rest of the cut characters return.
 

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If Sceptile gets in, what tier do you think he would be in?
You ask that like tiers aren't fluid... He'll be fast with a projectile (be it bullet seed or the less likely energy ball) though so he'll probably be easy enough to pick up that he'll rise fairly quickly to wherever his toolkit gets him, rather than being one of those ignored characters that randomly someone someday makes awesome.
 

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I haven't considered this yet, but do you think Pichu is a hindrance to Sceptile's chances at all? Veterans are very popular in Japan, and bringing Pichu back into Sm4sh would be a very Sakurai thing to do.
 

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This has not been a good couple of days to procrastinate.

If Sceptile gets in, what tier do you think he would be in?
We have absolutely no way of telling that, lol. What tier a character fall in depends on all the little data that goes into how they fight, which is something we would not know until said character got in.

I haven't considered this yet, but do you think Pichu is a hindrance to Sceptile's chances at all? Veterans are very popular in Japan, and bringing Pichu back into Sm4sh would be a very Sakurai thing to do.
Not directly. It might be an indirect blow as far as fan support goes (you've seen the "no more Pokémon reps" crowd by now), but as far as the dev team themselves goes, "over-representing" a series isn't a deal breaker for them.

But I doubt Sceptile would be any less requested if Pichu got in. Completely different powersets, you know?

Besides Sceptile, what is everyone's second most-wanted DLC character? The other characters I would love to see make it in are Yooka and Laylee, but I feel their chances are even lower than Sceptile's.
Well, depending on how you crack it, Sceptile's actually second or third for me. Delphox is kind of a big deal for me (Who knew, right? >_>), but things are kind of ambiguous as far as actual chances go. As far as more plausible characters, I'm mainly also interested in Krystal, Isaac, and K. Rool. Add in long shot characters, and I'd also add Absol, Geno, Wolf Link & Midna, Rundas, Black Mage...

...Yeah, moveset potential is kind of a big deal for me. I'm not all that interested in any of the remaining veterans, to be honest. I'd rather bring in more new faces.
 

KingCasual

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I haven't considered this yet, but do you think Pichu is a hindrance to Sceptile's chances at all? Veterans are very popular in Japan, and bringing Pichu back into Sm4sh would be a very Sakurai thing to do.
I hope this doesn't happen. I'm pretty easy to please. I'd be happy if any other veteran came back and every potential newcomer sounds pretty great. Pichu is the only character that if announced as DLC I'd be genuinely upset. I'm not sure why I so vehemently hate Pichu but I do.

I don't think Pichu is a threat to Sceptile, though. I think Pichu voters are mainly people who liked him in Melee and Sceptile voters are diehard Pokémon fans who want to see varied and fresh representation for the franchise. I think they're two different demographics. I'm sure there's some overlap but probably not as much as you'd think.

It makes me worry though that Pichu has more Yes votes than Sceptile in that individual character poll thread:

Pichu http://www.poll-maker.com/poll364151x056d8708-14
Sceptile http://www.poll-maker.com/poll373177xF7aaDd3a-14

If No votes counted in the official Smash ballot Sceptile would be set haha

Well, depending on how you crack it, Sceptile's actually second or third for me. Delphox is kind of a big deal for me (Who knew, right? >_>), but things are kind of ambiguous as far as actual chances go. As far as more plausible characters, I'm mainly also interested in Krystal, Isaac, and K. Rool. Add in long shot characters, and I'd also add Absol, Geno, Wolf Link & Midna, Rundas, Black Mage...

Actually now that I think about it Absol would be pretty awesome in Smash. I think I'll throw a couple of votes his way.
 
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There was a recent job listing for graphic designers that mentioned Nintendo Directs as one of the things they'd be working on, so they're still a thing.

It makes me worry though that Pichu has more Yes votes than Sceptile in that individual character poll thread:

Pichu http://www.poll-maker.com/poll364151x056d8708-14
Sceptile http://www.poll-maker.com/poll373177xF7aaDd3a-14

If No votes counted in the official Smash ballot Sceptile would be set haha
You also have to take into account the people most likely to vote in those polls: the more vocal members of the community here. Those are also going to be the people who would downvote a character they saw as competition for one they're personally invested in...and you've seen the "no more Pokémon" mentality among a lot of them here. I've also noticed Pichu's support base is small, but loud enough to out-shout detractors, and it's also less susceptible to be targeted in the first place due to veterans getting put on a pedestal sometimes...and there're also those who don't support the little guy but want him in just to see people get salty about it. Questionable at best, but it's there.

Actually now that I think about it Absol would be pretty awesome in Smash. I think I'll throw a couple of votes his way.
Heh, you should see the moveset idea I had. It was based around a neutral special that'd let you foresee one of several different weather-based hazards that'd kick in a few seconds later. Powerful yet super-telegraphed zoning tools that'd also function as stage pressure (You'd even cycle to the one you wanted like with Shulk's Monado Arts!), whereas Absol itself would have strong and deceptively fast A attacks. A dangerous threat up close and at long range...but with a notable weakness at midrange against opponents who wield weapons.
 
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I've noticed how a lot of the Pokémon content in Smash are directly based off of the anime (the Pokémon's voices, Ash being referenced in one of the trophies, etc). Since Sceptile is one of Ash Ketchum's main powerhouses, that would be another good reason for him to be playable. If only there was some way to convince the writers to bring Ash's Sceptile back... He hasn't made an appearance since the Tobias battle at the end of the DP saga.
 

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Sceptile is my Pokemon hero. He is second nature to me because he makes a great agile and swift fighter. Sceptile makes me think that he is a Ninja of stealth and speed.

What i'm trying to explain about Sceptile, is the fact that he has so many followers right now, tat i feel proud for him. Even though I support him as a secondary character currently, I stiil think he would be a great addition to add as a DLC character. Count me in for voting for him!!!
 
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KingCasual

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You also have to take into account the people most likely to vote in those polls: the more vocal members of the community here. Those are also going to be the people who would downvote a character they saw as competition for one they're personally invested in...and you've seen the "no more Pokémon" mentality among a lot of them here. I've also noticed Pichu's support base is small, but loud enough to out-shout detractors, and it's also less susceptible to be targeted in the first place due to veterans getting put on a pedestal sometimes...and there're also those who don't support the little guy but want him in just to see people get salty about it. Questionable at best, but it's there.
That's true. Logically I know I shouldn't take so much stock in unofficial polls like that. I noticed that Sceptile has the most Yes votes compared to all the other new pokémon candidates but he's trailing behind all of the cut pokémon veterans. That could be due to people just going on down the list and casting a vote for everyone they recognize (like I did haha) and since everyone recognizes a veteran of course they would have more votes. Those votes don't represent the official vote; I voted Yes for a lot of characters on that thread that I haven't voted for on the official ballot. "Pichu? Yeah, I kind of liked that character." *unofficial yes vote* is a lot different from "I REALLY WANT PICHU BACK IN THE GAME" *official ballot submission*

Heh, you should see the moveset idea I had. It was based around a neutral special that'd let you foresee one of several different weather-based hazards that'd kick in a few seconds later. Powerful yet super-telegraphed zoning tools that'd also function as stage pressure (You'd even cycle to the one you wanted like with Shulk's Monado Arts!), whereas Absol itself would have strong and deceptively fast A attacks. A dangerous threat up close and at long range...but with a notable weakness at midrange against opponents who wield weapons.
That sounds amazing. Absol vote submitted.

I've noticed how a lot of the Pokémon content in Smash are directly based off of the anime (the Pokémon's voices, Ash being referenced in one of the trophies, etc). Since Sceptile is one of Ash Ketchum's main powerhouses, that would be another good reason for him to be playable. If only there was some way to convince the writers to bring Ash's Sceptile back... He hasn't made an appearance since the Tobias battle at the end of the DP saga.
Ash had a Sceptile? That's pretty cool! It's been forever since I've watched the anime.
 
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Ash had a Sceptile? That's pretty cool! It's been forever since I've watched the anime.
Yes. His Sceptile is currently under Professor Oak's care, but during the battle against Tobias in the Sinnoh League, Ash's Sceptile was able to finish off Tobias's Darkrai. It would be nice to see him return again at some point.
 
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Everyone should remember to vote for sceptile as much as possible over the next month. we can really push through with a strong organized effort from everyone.
 

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What the heck man? I thought you liked sceptile as your main for DLC! Oh well, at least you gave it your all to support him over these month's. I am very surprised that you are leaving. Not in a good way.
 

KingCasual

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What the heck man? I thought you liked sceptile as your main for DLC! Oh well, at least you gave it your all to support him over these month's. I am very surprised that you are leaving. Not in a good way.
Did you click the link? I'm definitely joking. They somehow managed to come up with a suggestion worse than Shrek. Sceptile all the way!
 
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Guys, I'm really sorry, but I'm pulling all of my support for Sceptile. A far better candidate has come to light and from now on I'll be focusing all of my efforts on this:

http://metro.co.uk/2015/09/08/gamers-want-britney-spears-to-be-in-the-new-super-smash-bros-5381994/
Lmao I saw this. This article is sooo bad.

I'm feeling really anxious about Sceptile's chances atm, but at least it seems to be the most popular Pokemon candidate (aside from Pichu perhaps?). It seems like a character that would be so much fun to play while a lot of moveset possibilities and I don't think I could take it if that potential wasn't implemented in some way. If it doesn't make it in as Smash DLC...I'll just have to find time to make my own Smash game then. :lick:

Also Greninja and Sceptile for Pokken please (or at least Serperior if Sceptile doesn't make it).
 

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Guys, I'm really sorry, but I'm pulling all of my support for Sceptile. A far better candidate has come to light and from now on I'll be focusing all of my efforts on this:

http://metro.co.uk/2015/09/08/gamers-want-britney-spears-to-be-in-the-new-super-smash-bros-5381994/
BWAHAHA! Oh man. This is rich. Just when I thought we couldn't possibly go lower than Freddy Fazbear and Shrek.

On a side note, a new Pokémon game is coming out next year called Pokémon Go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sj2iQyBTQs
Meh. I'm not hyped for it at all to be honest. I don't have a smartphone and there are only Pokémon from Gen 1.
 

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On a side note, a new Pokémon game is coming out next year called Pokémon Go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sj2iQyBTQs
Meh. I'm not hyped for it at all to be honest. I don't have a smartphone and there are only Pokémon from Gen 1.
It's an awesome concept but it all depends on how well it's executed. The little details will make or break it, like how difficult it is to find/catch pokémon (it can't be too hard or too easy) or the mechanics of training and battling. It's got to have great graphics too, because an augmented reality pokémon would just look silly if the graphics looked like crap. I'm sure there won't be just Gen 1 pokémon in the final version, this is just a trailor. I'm predicting it will be limited to a little more than a hundred pokémon or so but there will be reps from all generations.
 
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I put Ryu Hayabusa instead for the "Ultimate Smash Ballot Poll" in the link above. Sorry guys :/

To make up for it, I'll vote Sceptile again in the official poll. ;)
 
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Well, I'm officially staying on ths thread even after the voting process has ended. I really am betting that Sceptile will win the top spot in smash, but if he doesn't at least know that my efforts to support him were not in vain.

You have done well Sceptile Sama. I apprciate you in every way, except that your training has yet to begin. You havre a long journey ahead of you, so be careful- @ BoltDragon BoltDragon quote. I just hope Sceptile makes it to the winner's position. I really could use a grass type pokeon, especially since we have a Water type = Greninja, and a fire type = Charizard.
 

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It's an awesome concept but it all depends on how well it's executed. The little details will make or break it, like how difficult it is to find/catch pokémon (it can't be too hard or too easy) or the mechanics of training and battling. It's got to have great graphics too, because an augmented reality pokémon would just look silly if the graphics looked like crap. I'm sure there won't be just Gen 1 pokémon in the final version, this is just a trailor. I'm predicting it will be limited to a little more than a hundred pokémon or so but there will be reps from all generations.
I'm sure it will be a solid spin-off title, but I can't help but feel like there's something else much bigger planned for Pokémon's 20th anniversary. It would be a joke to only have a freemium game not even on a Nintendo platform to celebrate this momentous occasion, plus Game Freak isn't even developing it.

EDIT: Well, speak of the Devil! Kalos sequels confirmed guys!
http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

If you look closely (next to the purple sundial thing), there's Mega Sceptile in the anime poster. This is great! More exposure for our favorite green dilophosaurus-gecko is always a good thing!
 
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So I made a list of my top 5 DLC characters. What do you guys think?

1. Sceptile (obviously)
2. Snake/Big Boss
3. Phoenix Wright
4. King K. Rool
5. Wonder Red
 

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Hey guys, I really do appreciate supporting Sceptile for smash, but i was wondering, could you please comment on my forum? I have just a few questions regarding my character for DLC purposes, and i need some comments. That is all. Here is my link: http://smashboards.com/posts/20054157/ Be sure to check me out if you would like to support Dragonite.


Aside from that note, if there is one thing that i would have to say about Sceptile, is that he has quick reflexes, ad he is very agile on his feet. Also, he moves with stealth and he attacks opponents with fury. I hope he wins the Top spot for DLC!! #1!
 
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Part 5 of the individual character poll is complete:
https://goo.gl/zqINJP
This adds in missing characters people requested.
Go vote guys!
Off topic, but if we get a BlazBlue character (which we won't!) it should totally be Noel Vermillion, her move set is way better suited.

Plus Murakumo Activate would be an amazing Final Smash!!


On topic, Sceptile would be a cool smash character! Bullet Seed is a must for me though... I don't want another energy ball neutral from a pokémon really.
 
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Pokemon Anime Spoilers! Open at own risk.

http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml#

As you can all see, Mega Sceptile is on this poster for an advertisment of some sort of the new season of Pokemon set to air on October 29th. This happens right around when the ballot closes, hopefully this is Ash's Sceptile in the poster, as that may help Sceptiles chances for Smash (more publicity).
 
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