vaderseven
Smash Apprentice
- Joined
- Jul 27, 2004
- Messages
- 105
Greetings Ness Board.
I recently discovered a GREAT ness player that lives just minutes from my apartment. I am overjoyed to know another smasher in the area, especially one that is better than I.
Now lets get to the point. The problem is I am a marth main. Ever heard of that cool 1337 combo that involves, you know, grab releasing ness until the ness player breaks thier controller into your TV? I don't do it. I have known of it since it was discovered and always just wrote it off in my head as, "lol poor Ness!" and moved on.
Since I met the great lady y1nk though, I have started to think more activily about the matchup. I went through and checked both the marth and ness boards matchup discussions and it would seem that everyone in both boards ACCEPTS the fact that the chain grab is real.
I know it is banned in at least some tournaments and y1nk told me of a tourny where the organizer came over and forced a rematch because of it.
So now my questions -
1. What EXACTLY constitues a breaking of the no grab release infinate rule? Is it acceptable for marth to grab, pummel, release, grab, pummel, smash (or some other version that involves a regrab but *does* have an end).
2. I read about all the tricks to maximize the breaking of the combo, it is still tech. an infinate correct?
3. In the average tournament that uses rules acceptable to the community, what rules apply to this matchup?
I would ask this in the matchup threads on each board but it seems that discusion of the matter was just not present.
Hi lady y1nk.
edit -
I ask all this not because i want an OK to be a cheap ***. I want to know what the accepted rules are AND I want to be able to give both myself AND yink good experience. If marth is allowed to do this grab BS then I would think she would want to be well versed in the escape tactics that are around.
edit x2 -
MLG has banned the grab release infini combo : http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=269919 (see gameplay rule #1)
I recently discovered a GREAT ness player that lives just minutes from my apartment. I am overjoyed to know another smasher in the area, especially one that is better than I.
Now lets get to the point. The problem is I am a marth main. Ever heard of that cool 1337 combo that involves, you know, grab releasing ness until the ness player breaks thier controller into your TV? I don't do it. I have known of it since it was discovered and always just wrote it off in my head as, "lol poor Ness!" and moved on.
Since I met the great lady y1nk though, I have started to think more activily about the matchup. I went through and checked both the marth and ness boards matchup discussions and it would seem that everyone in both boards ACCEPTS the fact that the chain grab is real.
I know it is banned in at least some tournaments and y1nk told me of a tourny where the organizer came over and forced a rematch because of it.
So now my questions -
1. What EXACTLY constitues a breaking of the no grab release infinate rule? Is it acceptable for marth to grab, pummel, release, grab, pummel, smash (or some other version that involves a regrab but *does* have an end).
2. I read about all the tricks to maximize the breaking of the combo, it is still tech. an infinate correct?
3. In the average tournament that uses rules acceptable to the community, what rules apply to this matchup?
I would ask this in the matchup threads on each board but it seems that discusion of the matter was just not present.
Hi lady y1nk.
edit -
I ask all this not because i want an OK to be a cheap ***. I want to know what the accepted rules are AND I want to be able to give both myself AND yink good experience. If marth is allowed to do this grab BS then I would think she would want to be well versed in the escape tactics that are around.
edit x2 -
MLG has banned the grab release infini combo : http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=269919 (see gameplay rule #1)