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The Elephant in the Room: Discussing Religious Minorities in America

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*Since my last blog post here back in April, I have actually written four other essays but I will only have them on my Facebook page because I think they would be confusing for people who don't know me in real life as they largely revolve around my graduation and giving thanks to people who helped me get to where I am today.*

This has been a topic I’ve been mulling around for years but, until now, I didn’t know how to present it. What has recently inspired me to write this essay are my recent experiences in the past two months in dealing with people with different religious affiliations. Since late 2009, I’ve gone out of my way to try to better understand different religious beliefs. I help out with seven religious organizations at SEMO with five representing different denominations of Christianity, one being Islamic, and one being atheist/agnostic/skeptic/humanist. I have a lot of friends that represent a wide spectrum of religious/spiritual beliefs too. I want to take this time to focus on those, including myself, who live in the shadow of America’s major religion. With about ¾’s of the population professing to Christianity, what it’s like to be a religious minority is something that is not readily relatable to most Americans. I want to take the time to retell some of my experiences with being outside the bigger circle and of a few groups I’m run into the past couple of years.

I’m not going to lie; it’s a little lonely being a religious minority in America. When I left Christianity in 2004, one of the first major obstacles I faced was the overwhelming sense of loneliness that initially came with it. If I had to describe it, it’s like getting off a plane at an airport terminal and knowing full well that no one is waiting for you. You don’t know where to go and you can’t get back on the plane; your only option is to leave, by yourself, dragging your suitcases behind you. No one helps you with your baggage and you really can’t ask for help because you don’t know how people will react if you do. In those early years I was a closet case agnostic living in a Christian household in a Christian dominated culture. I didn’t “come out” to my parents until November 2009 when I ended up sharing my beliefs with my Mom over the course of two hours on the phone. As she kept asking “why, why, why”, I was barely able to cover up the raw fear that my family would disown me for it. When your parents pay for most of your rent and your classes, the idea of suddenly being cut off because of your religious beliefs is more than just a little intimidating. Even now, my family acts as a very strong support in my life and it’s hard to picture of how devastated I would be if that was suddenly gone.

Since becoming an agnostic-theist, I have only met two other agnostic-theists in real life. Outside the internet, it’s hard to find people who aren’t religious and will openly admit to it. There’s a lot of stigma attached to it that I don’t think many Christians understand. When talking about my religious beliefs, I’m usually greeted with a lot of confusion because most people don’t even know what an agnostic-theist is. Some people mistake me as an atheist and that’s when things go quickly downhill. Atheism is treated with an unnecessary amount of suspicion and hostility in this country. In polls about what people think of different religious minorities, atheists are almost always at the rock bottom when it comes to the percentage of people who would trust them, let their children associate with them, invite them to their house, or even talk to them. As I’m often lumped into this group, I have been accused of being “up to something”, morally bankrupt, or completely selfish even while working charity events. When people act like you’re acting out of character when you’re being morally upstanding it hurts in a way that I don’t think a lot of Christians can relate to.

As an agnostic-theist, I obviously don’t belong to a church. I don’t have a building where I can officially congregate with other agnostic-theists. Here in Cape Girardeau, even when you’re out in the country, it doesn’t take longer than ten minutes to find at least one church. People don’t often think about it but in cities like this, churches often outnumber the fast food restaurants and it’s daunting for someone who’s not a Christian. In Cape, I know it has to be like this for Jews and Muslims too. The only temple in town was closed over a decade ago and, despite a Jewish family owning it, they won’t reopen it for reasons they don’t want to disclose to the public. Cape has a small Islamic center that’s easy to miss if you aren’t looking especially since it doesn’t resemble a mosque at all. Like me, I imagine that they have had to go through some of the same experiences that I have had being a religious minority.

Now-a-days, I only have one Jewish friend and my interactions with her have helped me better understand what it’s like being a Jew in America. She invited me to a Passover Seder in April and we ended up having it in the basement of a Catholic church. Including myself, about fifteen people attended but maybe only five of the people there were Jewish. During the meal, someone expressed the grand irony of the whole setting because of major historical events like the Spanish Inquisition and the Holocaust. He was right and a few people gave a quiet laugh before someone quickly stepped in to change the subject. The irony of the setting was the definition of overkill. Here we had a small Jewish community whose numbers were largely diminished because of the actions of the majority and now were somewhat dependent on them to preserve the traditions that same majority once tried to destroy.

On Fridays that I’m available, I help out at the Islamic center in Cape. They make box dinners for the local poor and we go out in a van and personally deliver these meals to them. The first time I went there, I wandered into the mosque because I didn’t know where to go for the event. I was quickly discovered and a small group of men invited me to dinner in the meeting hall next door. The Muslim Student Association of Saint Louis University was visiting that day and I got to talk to people of both groups about what it was like being a Muslim in America. To summarize what they said, it’s hard largely because of the media, particularly Fox News. Although atheists are consistently voted the most untrusted in polls, Muslims are usually not that far behind. Life in the Middle East is constantly satirized in comedies and cartoons and Arabs/Middle Easterns have been common villains in movies and TV shows in the past two decades. Muslims are commonly depicted as backwards and barbaric too which I imagine has made their lives especially hard.

One of the things that made my first trip to the Islamic center so memorable is how many pamphlets I got from the president of SEMO’s MSA. They covered a wide variety of topics and it was abundantly clear that the main thing this group wanted from me was a basic understanding of their religion. I had read about half of the Koran the summer before and have studied Islam at various times since my sophomore year of high school but they couldn’t have known that. When I first came to the Islamic center, they thought I was doing a school project. One of the women there had bluntly asked me why I had come and there was a certain air of disbelief in the room when I told them that I was there to help. I wasn’t a Muslim and I wanted to help. I imagine that, given America’s current attitude towards Islam, they saw this as highly unusual, just the same as other religious groups that have cautiously let me work with them. The fact that I was so eager to better understand their point of view probably came as a shock but when you have a culture that already heavily looks down on you, it pays to be cautious.

Seeing how these groups have dealt with being religious minorities has helped me looker deeper into my own experience. As I mentioned earlier on, they probably have gone through similar experiences like encountering overzealous evangelists, running into people who treat your beliefs like a disease that needs to be cured, and being dragged into debates and arguments even when you’re trying your hardest to find common ground. They’ve also probably have been accused of trying to undermine “American traditions” despite the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights being the greatest American tradition of them all. The Establishment Clause of the Constitution states that the American government won’t have any bias to any one particular religion but my experience says that’s far from the reality of things and I’m sure these groups would agree me. In regards to the Establishment Clause, I think that brings up another interesting point of the religious minority experience.

Religious minorities, particularly those who are secular, are often accused of trying to push their ways on the American public but, in truth, it’s the other way around. A common example is the “War on Christmas.” Despite Fox News’ outcries every December, it doesn’t exist. It’s not a “war” to eliminate Christmas but a movement to make things fairer and follow the Constitution. According to the Establishment Clause, courthouses and federal buildings shouldn’t have things like mangers around Christmas. According to the Establishment Clause, “under God” shouldn’t be in the Pledge of Allegiance (and, truth be told, was only added in the 1950’s during the McCarthy days). According to the Establishment Clause, “In God we Trust” shouldn’t be on money, the national anthem shouldn’t be changed to “God Bless America”, and teachers shouldn’t lead class prayers unless it is a religious school. Why is this? It’s because not everyone in America is Christian and, despite being the majority, it should still be acknowledged that the minorities exist. In this sense, there’s only two options, favor everyone or nobody at all; the more practical answer should be obvious. When people speak out against the things I mentioned, it isn’t an attempt to overthrow Christianity but to take some of the pressure off that comes with someone who doesn’t agree with the majority.

When it comes to this topic, I don’t think I have yet to say enough when it comes to the experience of a religious minority in America. It is something that is not readily relatable to the general populous and creating common ground is often difficult. Despite this difficulty, I would like to stress that this common ground is essential to progress. One of the most important lessons that I’ve learned so far in my college career is that you hardly learn anything if you only spend time with people who are just like you and who agree with everything you say and believe. I believe it’s important to keep your identity in the face of opposing views but at the same time realize that most of the people who disagree with you are not your enemies. A good rule of thumb of social conduct to follow is to assume that people’s beliefs are as important to them as yours’ are to you. Following this, I think people would be more sensitive to little guys like me and pay attention to the elephant in the room that’s actually been a longtime house guest.

Fatmanonice, June 12th 2011

“We all want to help one another. Human beings are like that. We want to live by each other’s happiness, not by each other’s misery. We don’t want to hate and despise one another. In this world, there is room for everyone.” –Charlie Chaplin

“It contributes greatly towards a man’s moral and intellectual health, to be brought into habits of companionship with individuals unlike himself, who care little of his pursuits, and whose sphere and abilities he must go out of himself to appreciate.” –Nathaniel Hawthorne

“I never considered a difference of opinions in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend.” –Thomas Jefferson
 

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Your blogs are a god (haha) among men. No, seriously, that totally sums up how I feel being a agnostic-theist. Luckily, people in Canada are a little bit more secular.
 

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We should nominate this for a segment on 60 minutes. Even athiests who only read the first sentence or two still understand.

Edit: Athiests aren't a minority. Only 4% of people in America are " Conservative, Bible - believing Christians ". Everyone else shuffles for their spot. Most people i meet out on the streets of Smalltown, USA are athiests.
 

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Great blog as always, FMOI.

I think your situation is interesting. I'm a sophomore in high school now and a lot of my friends have all types of different views, although I'm not sure that there are many other high schools like that. It kind of perplexes me that in your circle there's seemingly not much diversity.

In regards to the main point of your blog, I certainly agree, and it goes along with the main reasons I don't like this country. Despite declaring itself as a melting pot of all different cultures and people with all different affiliation and ideals, I find that the majority of people are ignorant to all of this and the government doesn't do a good job of helping this. Then there's the media, which blows everything out of proportion (read: Islamic cultural center near Ground Zero) and stirs up drama. Overall it's hard to see the view towards religious minorities change in this country in the near future when the people who make the rules and provide the news are making very little effort to change things.
 

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We should nominate this for a segment on 60 minutes. Even athiests who only read the first sentence or two still understand.

Edit: Athiests aren't a minority. Only 4% of people in America are " Conservative, Bible - believing Christians ". Everyone else shuffles for their spot. Most people i meet out on the streets of Smalltown, USA are athiests.
According to a national poll taken in March of this year, atheists/agnostics/skeptics/humanists make up about 16% of the population. 76-78% are Christian. Considering how this percentage is almost 5 times as much as the other, yes, people with secular beliefs are a minority in the United States.
 

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Your blogs are really considerate and insightful, I love reading them.

I haven't met a Christian who's suspicious of other beliefs yet (that I know of.) Makes me wonder what other parts of the US are like....
 

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Your blogs are really considerate and insightful, I love reading them.

I haven't met a Christian who's suspicious of other beliefs yet (that I know of.) Makes me wonder what other parts of the US are like....
I live right on the edge of the Bible belt. To give you an idea of the religious atmosphere in Cape Girardeau, my college has a Creation Science club.
 

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Damn man, I love reading your blogs. They're always so insightful and I can tell you really mean all the stuff you say there.

Personally, I haven't met anybody who is suspicious of anybody's beliefs (well except this one guy I knew who was ultra catholic or something and he criticized me right in front of everybody for being pro-gay) and there honestly seems to be a lot more diversity in my school regarding Catholics and atheists/agnostics/humanists/skeptics (as for the other religions, not so much. Out of the dozens of religious minorities, there's probably only about 5 jews in the school and 5 muslims in the midst of all the other religions). I know a lot of people who are atheists/agnostics/etc. and seems to make up a larger part of the population as you seem to be putting it.

The only thing that bothers me about most of the religious people in my school is that they don't understand what being atheist is. I'll tell them that I believe so on and so on and they'll tell me that I'm not atheist then and I give them the simple definition of the word without having to go into detail of the history of the word that a = no or without and theism = belief in a god or deity. That's probably about 99% of all religious people in my school who seem to be convinced that atheism means that you don't believe in anything and when I argue on something like the existence of extraterrestrials for example, they bring my belief into question and I give them the sermon and tell them that if I wasn't sure what being atheist meant and entailed then I wouldn't have become one in the first place. Sadly some people don't understand by the 100th time I've told them like this one guy who I've had to repeatedly tell him what it means and label him off as an idiot if he can't get past being ignorant after the 100th time

But yeah that's my experience with religion in my school and if you're muslim or jewish or something then they label you off as cool and have a laugh about it
 

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You should come down to Australia, our Prime Minister's a woman and atheist =p

I'm also agnostic, and I agree with you in that people practically expect you're religious, like it's the default. Similar to how people assume everyone's straight until specifically told otherwise.

*Reading over what I've typed, it seems a bit "full on", I apologise in advance if any of it is offensive, this topic just awakens something in me, not to mention it's 2am here sleep johns.*
Most of my friends are atheist, however one of them who is a good friend of mine is Christian, although not "hardcore" or goes to church and works on Sundays. I do admit I can be insensitive, along with our other agnostic-theist friends. He takes it in a good enough stride. It just baffles me though, he's intelligent, and has done science classes where the lecturers openly denounce creationism and states evolution as well supported. FMOI, do you think religion should be "indoctrinated" into children at a young age? Reminds me of this:
I went to church with my parents to make them not hate me, and it happened to be a baptizing service. They aren't catholic, so they don't believe in infant baptism, they say that's not right because a baby is not aware of what its doing and can't possibly be giving its life over to God. However, all the people who were baptized that day were between the ages of 5 and 15. Kid after kid that went up there and was asked why they wanted to be baptized said something along the lines of "because the Bible tells me so, and I'm supposed to do what the Bible says" or "because Jesus wants us to and I want to obey Jesus because he loves me". People smiled and clapped, it was awful. I can't believe that kind of brainwashing happens so outwardly.
Personally I'd rather not have my grandparents come into my bedroom and scare me with the horrors of sins and hell, I'd like to have a choice.

My family was never really religious, my parents vaguely believe in a divine power but that's as far as it got. I stopped believing when I made the comparison of Man-made religion gods with Santa Clause. Works partly on fear How they're both omni-present, keep a list of good and bad people, reward=heaven/presents, punishment=hell/coal, tributes=animals, human hearts/milk and cookies. Great way to keep kids (and ye old people in regards to god) in line, but they eventually get told Santa isn't real, the child may deny it and even cry, seeking alternatives, but eventually accepts it...Then how most religion claim to be the sole religion and to worship no other :\ With history, the Egyptians, Romans, Greeks all believed in their Gods at the times, and you were a heretic & spouting blasphemy if you challenged the symbols and gods. Like Christians now, the majority of Egyptians/Greeks/Romans back then adamantly believed, yet today they're nothing more then stories, myths, legends taught in middle school. I guess in another 500-1000years (if the Earth last that long XD) what's the next religion/god will be to replace those existing now, and what kind of people will be studying it for their future history class. In my opinion, in modern society religion has become obsolete.

I get told to shush up about my opinions on religions, that since I don't believe, it shouldn't concern me but I disagree.

When religion is the sole reason restricting freedoms and rights of gay marriage, I feel it concerns me.

When Creationists are attempting to push religious dogma into primary and junior schools I feel it concerns me.

When religious factors are taken into consideration when deciding sexual and reproductive freedoms, abortion, I feel it concerns me.
 

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As someone who was indoctrined as a kid, I'm strongly against it. One of the hardest parts of leaving Christianity was the sheer amount of guilt that came with it as I had been force fed the beliefs since I was three. It was something that strongly fuled my depression and made me believe for the first couple of years after I left Christianity that I DESERVED to feel bad. Another reason that I'm strongly against it is because of Piaget's theory of cognitive development. I believe religious indoctrination keeps people from progressing past the concrete operational stage and strongly hurts a country's education system as a result. There's a lot I could say on this topic since this strikes so close to home for me but these are my basic stances on it.
 

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I went to a catholic high school and the teachers don't even care if you're openly atheist. I guess Canada's just a lot better<3
 

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There's a pretty big difference between Canada and the Bible Belt. It's easy to find a plethora of nightmare stories about people coming out as atheists in the latter, even at public schools.

Also, FMOI, you describe yourself as an agnostic-theist. This is a stance that has always seemed strange to me, so could you elaborate on how you came to adopt it?
 

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As someone who was indoctrined as a kid, I'm strongly against it. One of the hardest parts of leaving Christianity was the sheer amount of guilt that came with it as I had been force fed the beliefs since I was three. It was something that strongly fuled my depression and made me believe for the first couple of years after I left Christianity that I DESERVED to feel bad. Another reason that I'm strongly against it is because of Piaget's theory of cognitive development. I believe religious indoctrination keeps people from progressing past the concrete operational stage and strongly hurts a country's education system as a result. There's a lot I could say on this topic since this strikes so close to home for me but these are my basic stances on it.
I feel for you. My parents force fed me Christianity. I left it when I was 9. But I didn't feel guilty. They should feel guilty for trying to force us into this ****.
 

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According to a national poll taken in March of this year, atheists/agnostics/skeptics/humanists make up about 16% of the population. 76-78% are Christian. Considering how this percentage is almost 5 times as much as the other, yes, people with secular beliefs are a minority in the United States.
Yes, there is almost 80% Christians, but most of that comes from " Sunday morning Christians ", the kind that go to church because that's what you do. Not the kind that carry the twenty pound bible and a suitcase of tracts everywhere.
 

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FoxBlaze what the **** is the point that you're even trying to make. You said Atheists aren't a minority and he just kicked that statement in the nuts.

What the ****, man.
 

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There's a pretty big difference between Canada and the Bible Belt. It's easy to find a plethora of nightmare stories about people coming out as atheists in the latter, even at public schools.

Also, FMOI, you describe yourself as an agnostic-theist. This is a stance that has always seemed strange to me, so could you elaborate on how you came to adopt it?
Well, for starters, I label myself an agnostic theist but, in technical terms, I'm not. An agnostic theist is someone who does not know if they is a god but leans more towards theism than atheism. In actuality, I'm an agnostic atheist but I chose not to use this label for a number of reasons. The first is that agnostic atheists are often synonymous with people who describe themselves as "non-religious" and generally don't care about religious issues. As I mentioned in my essay, I associate with a lot of different religious groups so this is not the case for me.

Second, I don't entirely like the atheist movement in America right at the moment. For a movement that says that it wants to promote tolerance and taking the intellectual high road, I don't think it has followed those standards. I agree with what they say but I don't agree with how many have gone about sharing their message. Third, I am a science major and as such I acknowledge that the existance of god/s cannot be proved/disproved without a shadow of a doubt (because with science there is always some doubt even if it's very, very small) and, by definition, the super natural deals with things that can never be explained or tested. This leads to a debate that never ends because there are so many different opinions of what "god" is. In response to this, I say that there are bigger fish to fry and more important things to do than try to figure out the answer to this question.

When I left Christianity, I intially was an agnostic theist but as I dwelved deeper into my studies of science, philosophy, and religion, I became an agnostic atheist. I then found that I didn't share the same views as a vast majority of the agnostic atheists around me including my views on the importance of compromise and working with people who don't agree with your views. Combined with everything else I said here, that's why I still label myself an agnostic theist.
 

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Yes, there is almost 80% Christians, but most of that comes from " Sunday morning Christians ", the kind that go to church because that's what you do. Not the kind that carry the twenty pound bible and a suitcase of tracts everywhere.
What are you saying?

Why else would someone go to church? It's a tradition that goes along with Christianity and connecting to God and that's why people do it.

You don't need to carry around a 'twenty pound bible and a suitcase of tracts' everywhere to be considered a Christian. That's like saying most Jews are just Shabbat Synagogue Jews and not sideburn orthodox Jews. Why does it matter?
 

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I also find it adorable how he thinks they should feel bad for trying to teach him the **** they believe will keep him FROM GOING TO HELL FOREVER. KIND OF A BIG DEAL TO SOME PEOPLE.
 

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I think it's a good point that not everyone in that 80% believes the Bible completely, and that many go to church simply because it's a ritual/habit for them, or because they don't want to be rejected by friends and family. I'm sure the OP can related, having done the same thing, and then taking a religious title that still doesn't accurately portray his beliefs. This isn't to degrade or attack you, FMOI; I hope you don't take that last sentence as such.

I find it funny how people don't like when kids decide to become a Christian at young ages because it's indoctrination, but for people like Fox who decide to be atheist/agnostic at a young age it's not as bad for some reason. Aren't kids just as smart or dumb (for the most part) as the kid next to them, regardless of their religious choice? I realize that most kids aren't indoctrinated into being atheist, but I'd also contend that the choice to be atheist at such a young age can still be in reaction to those around the child, as opposed to the result of rational thought. ie, out of hatred for the parents or a desire to be different.
 

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I find it funny how people don't like when kids decide to become a Christian at young ages because it's indoctrination, but for people like Fox who decide to be atheist/agnostic at a young age it's not as bad for some reason. Aren't kids just as smart or dumb (for the most part) as the kid next to them, regardless of their religious choice? I realize that most kids aren't indoctrinated into being atheist, but I'd also contend that the choice to be atheist at such a young age can still be in reaction to those around the child, as opposed to the result of rational thought. ie, out of hatred for the parents or a desire to be different.
People usually see becoming a Christian at a young age as "bad" because it can sometimes involve being taught to be absolutely terrified of defying "God" and to feel overwhelming guilt whenever they do anything wrong. God is always watching and slipping up could bring about his ultimate judgement. To see an example of this, watch the documentary Jesus Camp, the full thing's available on youtube if you haven't seen it. Not all Christian children grow up in such settings but I still believe that certain circles do take advantage of the fact that children aren't as cognitively developed as teens/adults.
 

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People usually see becoming a Christian at a young age as "bad" because it can sometimes involve being taught to be absolutely terrified of defying "God" and to feel overwhelming guilt whenever they do anything wrong. God is always watching and slipping up could bring about his ultimate judgement. To see an example of this, watch the documentary Jesus Camp, the full thing's available on youtube if you haven't seen it. Not all Christian children grow up in such settings but I still believe that certain circles do take advantage of the fact that children aren't as cognitively developed as teens/adults.
That's basically my entire point. I got the 5% indoctrinating type. Most don't give a damn about preaching. I eventually gave up trying to please something as real as Santa.
 

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The most important thing that Christians should do is express their relationship with God and show others by way of attitude and role modeling. You don't really need to be put into a sect or group to have that or show that, and you don't need to convert people for religion. You just let others know, by luring them in (but not forcing them)

Of course, it's important for Christians to reach out to those don't trust in God and that Jesus Christ, His Son, died for our sins. But it's more important to love and care for one another. And shoving biblical material down others' throats and making people feel outcast for not believing is not indicative of that one trait that not just Christians should hold a above all of their "religious beliefs", but people in general.

Nice blog. It was a great read and I agree with a lot of it. And I'm a Christian, but more importantly, I have a relationship with God and do not look down upon you for not having the exact same relationship I have. That's how I look at it :)

Also, I love how you showed your support for minority, and smiled when you expressed their concern with someone not of their sect helping them. Charity shouldn't be shown and credited to the name of the book or entity that you believe in, but by the size of your heart and the amount of work you can put into it.
 

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I think it's a good point that not everyone in that 80% believes the Bible completely, and that many go to church simply because it's a ritual/habit for them, or because they don't want to be rejected by friends and family. I'm sure the OP can related, having done the same thing, and then taking a religious title that still doesn't accurately portray his beliefs. This isn't to degrade or attack you, FMOI; I hope you don't take that last sentence as such.

I find it funny how people don't like when kids decide to become a Christian at young ages because it's indoctrination, but for people like Fox who decide to be atheist/agnostic at a young age it's not as bad for some reason. Aren't kids just as smart or dumb (for the most part) as the kid next to them, regardless of their religious choice? I realize that most kids aren't indoctrinated into being atheist, but I'd also contend that the choice to be atheist at such a young age can still be in reaction to those around the child, as opposed to the result of rational thought. ie, out of hatred for the parents or a desire to be different.
It's not as bad because religion is ridiculous. The child cannot be considered more intelligent, but its parents can.
 

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Man this reminds me when Finalark told me science is full of holes and that evolution has no solid proof, just observations from Darwin.

Good times.
 
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Great blog and I really did enjoy it.

While I am a Christian, I don't understand the hate on Atheist (We're suppose to respect religion of other people and that's why many Christians fails to understand) and I understand even less the extreme that some people take Christianity. I fully support the church and entirely believe in the Bible, but that doesn't mean I force others to do so.
 

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I hate talking about my beliefs and I hate hearing others talk about theirs. It's a personal thing and it should remain that way. When one has to explain their beliefs it ends up becoming distorted. FMOI lies about his beliefs because he feels he will be treated differently for it.

People suck, **** it.
 
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