The consequences of thinking different?

[RapidRocker]

Ok im one of those people who think differently than most other people. As a result of that I know no people that are similar to me. As a look from the outside it seems everybody is the same. As I ask how do you argue to that. I also ask how can you stand by with the things you do? Some actions of normal people are understandable to a point(wanting attentio .etc). But why go too far. If you wonder why i ask this I am autistic to a degree(asperger's syndrome). I know people who have this same thing as me but I wonder do they still try to blend in to go with the crowd or what? I want you to give me your opinion about this and explain the ridiculous actions that you do to me.

 

[Plazma]

theres this kid in my school who is autistic. his name is estaphon. He doesn't seem to have many friends but I think hes an alright kid so I talk to him every now and then. your thread kinda confuses me

 

[Zook]

I am confused by this thread.

What do you mean, 'The consequences of thinking different?' At first, you seem to want someone to talk to, or maybe meet more people like you. Next, you accuse... us, the 'everybody' you talk about?... of doing some unspecified things, to gain attention. After explaining that you are autistic, you say this:

I want you to give me your opinion about this and explain the ridiculous actions that you do to me.

This confuses me the most. What are the ridiculous actions that we do to you? Are you speaking to humanity as a whole, or to a select group of people?

 

[mzink*]

I'm pretty sure I understand what you mean. I think you are talking about how it's difficult to understand human mannerisms when you view and experience things so differently, having aspergers. Autism/Aspergers runs in my family and when I was young I was diagnosed with having Aspergers. Back then I REALLY stood out as a major oddball, people were utterly confused by me as I was by them. People even thought I belonged in a special school or something though my mother thankfully had faith in me and kept me in regular school. Once I entered my mid teens, things started getting easier and easier for me, it was like my brain was evolving really fast or something and I began to think more like other people and blend with the crowd more and more. Now at 21 the most people notice about me is that I'm just slightly odd, but nothing more, that's how far I was able to come though I don't really understand how. It seemed like part of my mind seemed to wake up and I started learning a lot more about people through experience. I had to actually teach myself to put inflection in my voice and express things through facial and body language and practice animating myself and making correct eye contact. But before all that happened, everything was so confusing to me, I didn't understand anything about human mannerisms and they all seemed so extreme to me. And there was so many other things that are just very hard to explain, my entire way of thinking seemed completely different from everyone else. I still learn things all the time and there's still things that I don't understand about people, like why they do certain things and plenty of stuff still confuses me but it seems like life enlightens me little by little the older I get. Aspergers/Autism basically makes you have a completely different mentality from other people so you always feel confused.

 

[aznegglover]

You mean like.. viewing humans differently? o_0

 

[mzink*]

^^^^^ Yes among other things

 

[Pluvia's other account]

Ok now I get what you mean, but I still don't understand what these 'ridiculous actions' and 'certain things we do' are.

 

[Hiemie]

I don't know what's going on here.

 

[Jazzy Jinx]

I can`t believe it`s not butter.

 

[Kitten]

I can`t believe it`s not real apostrophes.

Pluvia, I think he isn't implying that Smashboards harasses him, but more asking why a person would harass a person with Asperger's? But I'm quite probably wrong.

 

[Pluvia's other account]

Ok..






*Leaves thread*

 

[Zook]

Heimie, you need to give me a good infraction. Ooooh baby.

 

[Reyairia]

I can`t believe it`s not real apostrophes.

Pluvia, I think he isn't implying that Smashboards harasses him, but more asking why a person would harass a person with Asperger's? But I'm quite probably wrong.

Why would someone harass a person with Asperger's?!
Well, I happen to be an aspie here, and trust me, we have it tough.
There's enough evidence to suggest that we can do things normal people can't do to make up for our lack of communication skills.
And yet "lol life debilitating disease, we can't take them seriously, and we can discriminate them in the workplace and get a slap on the hand for it by the judge."
Nonverbal communication that we have a problem with? It's 55% percent of all language? I'd like to see anyone here try to go through life only understanding 45% of what people say.

So yeah, we do get a lot of **** for being different.

 

[Kitten]

You said it yourself, you get a lot of ****. It's because people don't understand the syndrome (syndrome?). There's a kid at our school with Asperger's who gets a lot of harassment. People just don't understand that it's a large part of the cause of his somewhat outlandish behavior.

 

[Reyairia]

You said it yourself, you get a lot of ****. It's because people don't understand the syndrome (syndrome?). There's a kid at our school with Asperger's who gets a lot of harassment. People just don't understand that it's a large part of the cause of his somewhat outlandish behavior.

Normal people are weird with their social cues, cliques, dos and don'ts. It's hard for us to understand what "is the social acceptable answer," "the socially acceptable time to respond," etc, etc. I think a lot of famous people had the Asperger's simply because we're immune to the whole peer pressure thing. Unfortunately that is considered a bad thing. Seriously, we're immune to that whole thing more or less and we get labeled as "disordered." What happened to the whole "dare to be different, and speak out" fiasco? -_-

I could rant about this all day.

 

[mzink*]

I wonder how many people here are Aspies...

 

[Crystallion]

Ok im one of those people who think differently than most other people. As a result of that I know no people that are similar to me. As a look from the outside it seems everybody is the same. As I ask how do you argue to that. I also ask how can you stand by with the things you do? Some actions of normal people are understandable to a point(wanting attentio .etc). But why go too far. If you wonder why i ask this I am autistic to a degree(asperger's syndrome). I know people who have this same thing as me but I wonder do they still try to blend in to go with the crowd or what? I want you to give me your opinion about this and explain the ridiculous actions that you do to me.

I have it too, but I don't try to blend in to go with the crowd since that is impossible to do. So I continue my journey as the person I am. You are what you are. Some things can be changed, some can't, people have to accept this. And to be honest, I don't even want to be like the majority because I don't like people. I've got difficulties with the "thinking different" part though. You probably know out of your own experience, but it's hard to follow a certain kind of logic in school, like when you have to analyze texts, be it philosophical articles or even simple stories. People like us have problems in understanding (common with autism), but I'm sure people have already said this in better words than I did.
Anyway, it sucks, but it's not the end of the world. I didn't even know I had Asperger's since a few months ago.

 

[mzink*]

People ALWAYS look at me funny when I haven't even done anything.

 

[Jazzy Jinx]

What exactly is this different mindset anyway? You all seem pretty normal from what I`ve read so far...

Is it merely manerisms or...?

 

[Crystallion]

What exactly is this different mindset anyway? You all seem pretty normal from what I`ve read so far...

Is it merely manerisms or...?

Actually very hard to explain, I don't even understand what exactly makes us different. For one, our brain function differently than that of "normal" people. It's a matter of perception that makes us view the world as something else. Maybe someone else can explain more.

And yeah, we have some differences, yet we act normal for the most part. That's why psychologists didn't notice and didn't care to look into matters more till now. All this lost time...

 

[Reyairia]

What exactly is this different mindset anyway? You all seem pretty normal from what I`ve read so far...

Is it merely mannerisms or...?

Like Crystallion says, it's pretty hard to explain. Also it's very hard to notice it on the internet. If you talked to us IRL you'd notice something is... off. We have a hard time controlling our voice volume, having eye contact, seem to talk in an obnoxious way, etc. Basically, we have the communication skills of a six year old - and it makes us seem like arrogant idiots. Also since our brain seems to work in a different language we often need something repeated several times before it processes through our brains right.
We're basically the natural geeks, so in video game discussions and generally on the internet you'll see us all the time. We love to obsess over things and find out every tiny detail about our fixations. Because of Sensory Integration Dysfunction (always with autism, pretty much, but it can exist by itself) we're very sensitive to our senses. After a few years of coping with all the problems with autism, we obtain this need for control and it manifests itself into pet peeves like things needing order, the obsessions, the shoelaces having to be exactly the same length, things need to be organized, etc. It can get pretty annoying to people at times.

We also seem to notice things other people do not - and often we find obvious what other people don't, and vice-versa.

 

[mzink*]

It's like everything is input into the brain differently, so we perceive everything differently and behave differently from the norm and it causes confusion on both ends. Aspects of social interactions are most difficult. It took me a very long time to grasp the concept of sexual attraction.

Also things like sensory input are different, touch, hearing, smell and the like. If someone touches me, unless it is a very firm touch I can't stand it. It's hard to explain, sort of like getting a shock or burn, you want to pull away real fast.

 

[Jazzy Jinx]

This is very interesting to me actually. My cousin has autism so I can relate some of the things you guys feel though he doesn`t speak coherently like ya`ll do. I have a strong connection with him so anyone making fun of him can instantly push me into my own disorder state, IED (Intermitent Explosive Disorder), which is basically an uncontrolable rage. It has very few triggers though...

Too many people are uncomfortable around different things but that`s still no excuse to be completely close-minded. I make it a practice to give everything and everyone a chance at the very least...

 

[SmashAura4]

The world never has been a big fan of "different". People would rather treat you crap or ignore you if you were different. And it's not only those with disabilities. Some people are just different for no apparent reason. Unfortunalely, people just have this messed up mentality that won't allow them to accept others and their differences. Now that's something I don't get.

 

[Tom]

I have a strong connection with him so anyone making fun of him can instantly push me into my own disorder state, IED (Intermitent Explosive Disorder), which is basically an uncontrolable rage. It has very few triggers though...

♪Uncle Kenny,
pelted by gamma rays,
turns into the Hulk
(Ain't he unglamorous!)♪

 

[Livvers]

I always wish I could see what other people see when they look at me, cuz they ALWAYS look at me funny when I haven't even done anything.

I'll study you. You'll have a full report on Monday.

 

[Jazzy Jinx]

♪Uncle Kenny,
pelted by gamma rays,
turns into the Hulk
(Ain't he unglamorous!)♪

It`s actually a real disorder minus the gamma rays, green skin, and lack of self-respect...

If I got huge, my pants are going to rip off, I`ll say that much...

 

[B.U.S.]

It's likely that my older brother has Asperger's, and I might have something of the like. Most people would say he's a little odd, but he's just very particular about who he's social with.

He's also the only person I've ever felt I could really identify with. I mean sure, I can get really close to people, but it's just not the same. We have this sort of un-said understanding of each other.

Sometimes when I try to express things, it doesn't work very well. This post is probably a good example: I might have some legitimately good thoughts on this subject, but I can't seem to get them out properly (I just finished writing this post and its taken me roughly an hour). Sometimes I conform to the majority because I can't get something out.

It's not like I don't understand how other people act; it's more that I just get frustrated with it.

Now as far as being, acting, or thinking differently, I am what I am. I try my best to stay true to myself, but sometimes it's just too much of a pain. At times, I just don't want to deal with people at all. But for the most part, I try to interact with people as much as I can and get myself out there being an oddball or not.

I hope there's something worthwhile in what I wrote.

 

[Duckys]

Theres no such thing as 'normal people' every person has different characteristic either its visible or non-visible, some people behave in different ways than others. But i'm confused by what you mean by consequences of thinking differently because I don't think anyones mind works exactually the same as others, theres so many different things going on.

 

[SmashAura4]

It's likely that my older brother has Asperger's, and I might have something of the like. Most people would say he's a little odd, but he's just very particular about who he's social with.

He's also the only person I've ever felt I could really identify with. I mean sure, I can get really close to people, but it's just not the same. We have this sort of un-said understanding of each other.

Sometimes when I try to express things, it doesn't work very well. This post is probably a good example: I might have some legitimately good thoughts on this subject, but I can't seem to get them out properly (I just finished writing this post and its taken me roughly an hour). Sometimes I conform to the majority because I can't get something out.

It's not like I don't understand how other people act; it's more that I just get frustrated with it.

Now as far as being, acting, or thinking differently, I am what I am. I try my best to stay true to myself, but sometimes it's just too much of a pain. At times, I just don't want to deal with people at all. But for the most part, I try to interact with people as much as I can and get myself out there being an oddball or not.

I hope there's something worthwhile in what I wrote.

I can sorta get what you're saying. It's like a lock or scrambler in some peoples heads that keeps them from expressing their true thoughts. I have this problem, and it keeps me from relating to people, even my family at times. It's like "why even bother". So we try to just go with the flow to keep from sticking out, but you can still feel like an oddball in the midst of it all.

I hope I wrote down something worthwhile too.

 

[Hiemie]

It`s actually a real disorder minus the gamma rays, green skin, and lack of self-respect...

If I got huge, my pants are going to rip off, I`ll say that much...

Yeesh, you got Intermittent Explosive disorder? Condolences. I hope it doesn't effect your life too much. I know that can cause some bad problems.

 

[Chibi-pika]

Consequences of thinking differently:

Because you think differently, people who criticize you. Also if you don't follow group mentality they will also criticize you. Depends really what you mean by think differently. For example people are STUPID at my school and there are only 3 smart kids in my class or used to be ( going to highschool), I was rank 2nd smartest they first looked up to me, then they started hating me so thinking different can be bad, but it can change the world. By thinking out side of the box you can invent new stuff. Consequences can be good or bad.

 

[Rusty Shacklefurd]

I used to think I had Asperger's, not entirely sure if I do or don't. In terms of symptoms, I can relate to maybe half of them, some of them being a loose relation. The main symptoms I found to be apparent with myself are to do with eye contact(I can never look anyone in the eye without seriously forcing myself to. I just always get this feeling whenever I make eye contact, that the recipient thinks I'm staring and it just feels extremely awkward), repetative interests and behavior ("behavior, interests, and activities that are restricted and repetitive and are sometimes abnormally intense or focused""may stick to inflexible routines or rituals, move in stereotyped and repetitive ways, or preoccupy themselves with parts of objects" that last part in particular), conversational style ("fails to provide context for comments, or fails to suppress internal thoughts" happens a lot without me really noticing), and vocabulary ("Children with AS may have an unusually sophisticated vocabulary at a young age"). Aside from that, I just figure that I'm a generally strange person and don't let it get to me, because at least I'm not an idiot.

I'm not an idiot.

 

[Firus]

I want you to give me your opinion about this and explain the ridiculous actions that you do to me.

I take umbrage to this. I don't think any of us on SmashBoards are doing anything to you. Also, I'm sure that, since this is a video game community, there are quite a few people here who are singled out and think differently. I am one example.

I agree, I don't understand why some people do things, but please don't come in acting like WE have done something. I'm sorry you are treated that way, I know how much it sucks to be treated that way, but it's not our fault.

But I'll tell you this; even if you're given crap for everything you do in life because you're not like everyone else, you should be happy. Not happy that you're being made fun of, but it means you're not conforming, and conformity is the worst thing you can possibly do. Be your own person, screw everyone else.
People see anyone different and they treat them like freaks because, as humans, we can't accept the unknown. We are confused, and possibly scared by it, so we ridicule it. By "we", I mean a general population, not everyone in the world, obviously. I've gotten a lot of ridicule in my life for being a geek, for being sort of eccentric with my likes and dislikes, and also because I anger easily and people know just what buttons to press. Even my friends screw with my from time to time.

 

[marthanoob]

Wow, I literally can't believe so many of you have Asperger's. Misdiagnosis.

Some people are just different.

If you take an MBTI (Myers-Briggs Type Indicator) test (10 minutes or so), a personality system developed and simplified from Jung typology, you'll notice that the properties of some of the types are very similar to Asperger's.
Thinking differently? If you ultra-logical, emotionally dysfunctional, relatively open-minded, and inept at catching social cues and/or responding to them fast enough, you may be an INTX (Introverted, iNuitive, Thinker).

 

[Rusty Shacklefurd]

Wow, I literally can't believe so many of you have Asperger's. Misdiagnosis.

Some people are just different.

If you take an MBTI (Myers-Briggs Type Indicator) test (10 minutes or so), a personality system developed and simplified from Jung typology, you'll notice that the properties of some of the types are very similar to Asperger's.
Thinking differently? If you ultra-logical, emotionally dysfunctional, relatively open-minded, and inept at catching social cues and/or responding to them fast enough, you may be an INTX (Introverted, iNuitive, Thinker).

Exactly why I never said I had it. Only said I can relate to many of the symptons.
Also, for some it might not be so much a misdiagnosis as a self diagnosis, in which case positive results can be attributed to bias or hypochondria. I'm assuming, since not very many people specified how they know they have it.

 

[Crystallion]

My diagnosis wasn't a self-diagnosis, at least.

 

[marthanoob]

Rusty, I agree.

My diagnosis wasn't a self-diagnosis, at least.

If you really think you have it, then you do. I was just being the skeptic that I am and pointing out that there are tons of people who misdiagnose themselves with Asperger's when the symptoms are relatively common and then say that they are autistic as an excuse for being inept.