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The benefits system needs changing... really.

mountain_tiger

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OK, so before I start off, I'm not slagging off the benefits system in general. Personally, I think it's a very good idea to help out people who are unemployed through no fault of their own and preventing them (and their children) from suffering. But it needs some revamping, because as it stands, it doesn't seem very fair.

I mean, think of it this way. We all know the housing market isn't too great at the moment, so if a hard-working couple, in their mid 20s let's say, who have a decent income between them, yet no children, try and get a house, chances are they wouldn't be able to, and if they did they'd have to pay very high mortgage payments (probably the banks trying to fill their debts).

Yet if there's another couple, who have never had a proper job in their life between them, wasting their money on cigarettes and alcohol want a house, and they have children, then they can practically get a council house just like that. Granted, it wouldn't be particularly nice as such, but it's still a house.

Now tell me, does that sound fair to you? Why should a couple that work hard, save and spend responsibly be unable to get a house, whereas a couple that don't work at all and waste the money that they do have on addictions can get a council house just like that almost? Why not give the council houses to people that actually worked hard, but then got made redundant and couldn't afford their old house (i.e. the people that actually deserve them)?

Oh, and as another example, take this family, who claim that they're 'too fat to work':

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...ay-22000-worth-of-benefits-is-not-enough.html

To be fair, some people are genuinely fat through no fault of their own, yet by the sounds of it this lot just eat far too much food. And they expect hard-working taxpayers to foot the bill for them. Disgusting, it really is.

There are many other examples of people scamming the system and the like, but I think I'll stop there before I get too annoyed.

tl;dr Benefits should only go to the people that actually need and deserve them.
 

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People.
Are.
Lazy.
People think they "deserve" things when they do not. I "deserve" this from the goverment ect. No. People do not deserve anthing, they can EARN something, but not deserve.
Like with Micheal Vick, "I DESERVE a second chance." No, you don't, you MAY have a second chance but not DESERVE a second chance.
Mountain Tiger you have the best blogs I swear lol.
 

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Well it keeps people of the streets!!

Theres more then one ttype of benefit, My family for example gets

1.Disability Living allowance
2.Disability carers allowance
3.Educational Maintenance allowance

benefit fraud does exist though,
 

Teran

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Well Disability Allowances are 110% accetable imo.
I do disagree with the amount of money you can reap on the dole though.

Still, the government needs more of an initiative to get people working with things like accessible apprenticeships and cheap/free courses that increase your chances of getting good employment.

I'd discourage reading something like The Telegraph though, seeing how it's mainly just Tory drivel. I read The Times for financial stuff, and The Independent for when I don't want political bias seeping into my articles. Tbh though, I don't even know why I read the news because it's all just mangled lies and dramatic nonsense tales, but it seems you have to keep up with the current fiction to be a respected member of society these days. So I do. :)

/ramblings
 

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Mock the week is more useful then some newspapers sometimes!!

the thing about the fat family is suprising, Its because once you get to a certain weight your then classed as disabled
 

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Well it keeps people of the streets!!

Theres more then one ttype of benefit, My family for example gets

1.Disability Living allowance
2.Disability carers allowance
3.Educational Maintenance allowance

benefit fraud does exist though,
I have nothing against carers allowance or EMA or any of that stuff. What I am against is when people who are perfectly capable of working simply can't be bothered and go on the dole, and yet they get a council hous whereas other hard-working couples don't.
 

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I have nothing against carers allowance or EMA or any of that stuff. What I am against is when people who are perfectly capable of working simply can't be bothered and go on the dole, and yet they get a council hous whereas other hard-working couples don't.

I know, they have to show proof that their looking for work most of the tiem
 

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I have nothing against carers allowance or EMA or any of that stuff. What I am against is when people who are perfectly capable of working simply can't be bothered and go on the dole, and yet they get a council hous whereas other hard-working couples don't.
This approach is a very sly method of the elite keeping themselves elite, and indirectly throttling better career opportunities for the working class.
 
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