The Advice Zone

[ADMJP]

Actually, it depends on the moves. I'm almost certain that Meta's fair slightly beats out Marth's fair, but I could be wrong....it might be one of those "whoever attacks first, gets hit" types of things. There's a lot of that in Brawl.

its about the same distance on most of his aerials, except marth's bair slightly outranges mk's i think.

However, Marth doesnt have that same trans property on like all his moves like mk does.

 

[Nidtendofreak]

For ike questions you ight want to ask Arturito burrito. Real good ike

I know, I've played against his Ike before.

And isn't watching your opponent a part of spacing, which Ike needs to do well at? If you're focused on where you are and what you are doing, you're spacing won't be as good....right?

 

[PhantomX]

Just watching them won't really help you at all... technically you could just be watching them kill you But yeah, you need to know where they are and how fast they can get to you, that usually comes with experience.

 

[Sars_Pirate]

Just play without shielding if you want to work on your spacing. Set the shield buttons to like jump or something.

 

[Sethlon]

Falco vs marth at 0%: can falco dthrow to dair with out getting dolphin slashed?

Yes. In fact, if you grab them at zero, you can get a regrab in before the dair.

 

[furiousduffmanx]

Yes. In fact, if you grab them at zero, you can get a regrab in before the dair.

Good to know now for sure. I was scared often resulting me in just throwing them somewhere else. I find myself using a lot of jab. The two characters i cant really jab are marth(dphat) and MK. This counters just suck making me drop falco out of my game... How should i approach them? or punish?

 

[Hylian]

Good to know now for sure. I was scared often resulting me in just throwing them somewhere else. I find myself using a lot of jab. The two characters i cant really jab are marth(dphat) and MK. This counters just suck making me drop falco out of my game... How should i approach them? or punish?

Well Falcos jab is 2 frames, so you shouldn't have too many problems jabbing characters.

Try throwing empty SH airdodges into your game for baiting. Jabbing out of those works sometimes . Though don't just do it for the sake of doing it haha, use it to get around some things. Ftilt also helps a lot in the spacing department, and often you can get them by just walking away from your opponent slowly then turning around and ftilting.

Grabs can be pretty good punishment at mid %. You can dthrow most characters and follow up with a dash attack, even if they AD. After that jump after then with say..uair to force an AD then anything to punish or something else depending on DI or if you even hit them with a dash attack. Falling nair can lead to utilt ---> something usually.

 

[fsdfsdgsgdf]

If someone bans Rainbow Cruise from you, what other stage would you use :D

hehehe

me personaly...ALOT. you can ban RC ill just go to another stage kirby or D3 is good on >_>

What are some other bad stages against falco other than Lylat?

green greens

Purchase some OctoCamo and hide whenever you suspect he's near.

someone say suspect?

For ike questions you ight want to ask Arturito burrito. Real good ike

or Shin Ike

 

[Van Jones]

Whoops. Didn't mean to post that here. Sorry.

 

[OhMyGodItzMouf]

hylian must be pretty flexible, what with the ability to suck his own **** and all

2ND WORST THREAD EVER (first being houston melee thread)

 

[kailo34ce]

hylian must be pretty flexible, what with the ability to suck his own **** and all

2ND WORST THREAD EVER (first being houston melee thread)

o.o dr drew is watching you look out

jerm falco sucks on port town in my opinion and norfair,both gay stages

 

[gunterrsmash01]

Whats the proper legit way to getting out of the tornado? i hear so many ways.....

 

[Hylian]

hylian must be pretty flexible, what with the ability to suck his own **** and all

2ND WORST THREAD EVER (first being houston melee thread)

Why do you act childish so often? Nothing I've done warrants this.

Seriously, get over it.

 

[UltimateRazer]

Daaaaaam. My first question. What should I do if a MK is pressuring my shield and then nados?

>:O

 

[fsdfsdgsgdf]

smoking weed eases my pressure

 

[Hylian]

Daaaaaam. My first question. What should I do if a MK is pressuring my shield and then nados?

>:O

Just roll backwards once you see the nado come out(not forward) and then run away or do something to punish it >_>.

 

[fsdfsdgsgdf]

lol i knew i would get infracted


i was just being helpful

 

[kailo34ce]

Daaaaaam. My first question. What should I do if a MK is pressuring my shield and then nados?

>:O

its like when they knock your snake off the stage,your only ok if they mess up>_>

 

[gunterrsmash01]

Whats the proper legit way to getting out of the tornado? i hear so many ways.....

Yo can someone answer to this

 

[DallasPhat]

Man.. close please too much spam k thx

 

[Infinitysmash]

Ozz: which character are you? It's different for every character. Also, are you in the air or near the ground when you get hit by it?

You actually can't escape if they don't hit you with the bottom part of the tornado (unless you've got a frame-1 move that offers some sort of disruption or invincibility frames). The bottom of it pops you up through the top and you can go from there, but if they come in and hit you with the top of the tornado's cone then it just knocks you around a little bit and you can't get out. For instance: if a Metaknight uses the tornado and comes up from under you on a platform then it sucks you in to the tornado and you're there until they finish. However, if they shield poke the top of your shield with it then it pops you up through the top and you can escape with only about 3% damage, give or take a little.

 

[UltimateRazer]

Just roll backwards once you see the nado come out(not forward) and then run away or do something to punish it >_>.

But what if I'm on a platform? D:

 

[OhMyGodItzMouf]

how do i get blood stains out of my boxers?

 

[Hylian]

But what if I'm on a platform? D:

If they are pressuring the top of your shield before they nado you should have enough time to drop through the platform before the tornado.

 

[fsdfsdgsgdf]

Can a mod, mod someone if there name was green and i didnt say moderator below it?

that's against the book of Isiah

 

[Magik0722]

dont know if this would be useful to anyone and is mainly just for those attending texas tournaments but a while back i complied a list of common texas smashers and their characters and counterpicks so i could know what to ban against them if i ever played them here it is

Hylian
Known Characters - GaW, ICs, Falco, MK
GAW - Rainbow Cruise / Corneria

Royr
Known Characters - Marth
Seems to pick Random nuetral stages

Sethlon
Known Characters - Falco, ZSS, Sheik
Falco - Pokemon Stadium?

Xyro
Known Characters - SAMUS!!!!
Samus - Port Town

Infinity
Known Characters - Metaknight
MK v MK - Luigis Mansion

Dojo
Known Characters - Metaknight
seems to pick random nuetral stages

Santi
Known Characters - Toon Link
seems to pick random nuetral stages

Razer
Known Characters - Snake, Nunchuck
Snake v MK - Halberd
Seems to pick Random nuetral stages

Dr Mario Guy
Known Characters - Wario
Wario - Brinstar


course i stopped after i got bored so its not a great list but its decent, maybe you guys can add to it?

 

[outRAGEous]

^^^^^ pretty embarrasing that you did dat.


BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Warning, challenger approaching............

BRAWL1

Characters::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: CAPTAIN FALCOn and (?????)


dare ye mock the name of BRAWL1.........

muhahahahahahahaha


player weaknesses........ none.

player strengths....... everything.



brawl1????? brawl done.


edit: mother****ing *****es can't ****ing relate to the story of a true champ

 

[Sars_Pirate]

lol mouf still posts?

And are we allowed to create like social topics or what is this <_<

Like the southeast got some crazy mah****ing topics there.

 

[outRAGEous]

blue if you are a true humanitarian you will look past what the eye can see


i like blue and yellow

..........

 

[gunterrsmash01]

Ozz: which character are you? It's different for every character. Also, are you in the air or near the ground when you get hit by it?

You actually can't escape if they don't hit you with the bottom part of the tornado (unless you've got a frame-1 move that offers some sort of disruption or invincibility frames). The bottom of it pops you up through the top and you can go from there, but if they come in and hit you with the top of the tornado's cone then it just knocks you around a little bit and you can't get out. For instance: if a Metaknight uses the tornado and comes up from under you on a platform then it sucks you in to the tornado and you're there until they finish. However, if they shield poke the top of your shield with it then it pops you up through the top and you can escape with only about 3% damage, give or take a little.

I'm Falco.

I want to know how to DI out of it both in the air and on the ground, if possible.

 

[Dr Drew the Dragon]

And are we allowed to create like social topics or what is this <_<

Well you are in a social room.

Everyone seems too afraid to leave their old topics though for whatever reason.

 

[Sethlon]

You've put the fear of Mod into the southwest, Drew =/

 

[outRAGEous]

can rage be di'd?

i read slow

 

[furiousduffmanx]

Hylian: GW's roll sucks IMO, correct me if i am wrong. SO for instance when snake dthrows GW our options are limited and since his roll is a bit slow it can be predicted. I had seen videos of people using up-b instead, which i tried but it didnt really work well for me, did I just use it wrong?
Also we should be able to fair people on a tech chase after a dthrow right?

 

[PhantomX]

You can fair after a dthrow, yes, as for the other thing.... I donno, lol.

And yeah, Drew... you're like the only regional mod that does his job so frequently as to scare everyone into compliance... stop it

 

[Hylian]

Hylian: GW's roll sucks IMO, correct me if i am wrong. SO for instance when snake dthrows GW our options are limited and since his roll is a bit slow it can be predicted. I had seen videos of people using up-b instead, which i tried but it didnt really work well for me, did I just use it wrong?
Also we should be able to fair people on a tech chase after a dthrow right?

Up-B works great to get out of Snakes Dthrow. Just start mashing up-b right as he downthrows you. If they read you, they can get a dair off though(unless you SDI it) so be careful. Usually snakes walk forward slowly to punish all you options though, so up-bing out works.

Yes you can techchase with fair as well.

 

[furiousduffmanx]

Yeah thats usually the case lol, i get d-aired out of it. Thanks

 

[Nike.]

Mkay, heres a situation:

Im marth up throwing snake at medium percent

I SHFF uair and snake air dodges

I grab again to reset situation, and Snake ground dodges. Im guessing its cuz im too late on the grab.

So heres the question: How many frames are there between air dodge->ground dodge that I can grab Snake on?

 

[fsdfsdgsgdf]

I really dont like snakes "ground dodge" (i know im not hylian but i play morningstar ALOT) you just have to predict it really. Just stand there and wait for him to side step then grab him again, or just dont be so predictable. Snakes side step is one i hate the most next to D3's

As far as frames go, i dont know but i know snake can do some stupid stuff short frame wise >_>

 

[outRAGEous]

it's like hearing a drop of water, dear dragon?

U think you can outrageme, lol i was never trying to outrageus

2 many rage illusions