Teleport ledge stall?

[bahamutz69]

errm.. how?

do you do the same with as firefox/bird stalls but DI towards the ledge?
thanks.

 

[Teczer0]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=129276

First page just look for the purple heading that has "Ledgestalling" in it

 

[bahamutz69]

lol thank u :]
i didnt look that hard in any guides cuz im a bum

 

[Teczer0]

LOL yea I can understand the laziness kicking in

Just go to that thread if you have questions for random stuff.

Cuz that thread is amazing, anything you say there starts some topic about sheik ****** people

 

[Bil]

god **** today I did a ledgehop->teleport-> regrab -> onto stage waveland -> usmash on fox....

IT *****.

 

[Teczer0]

god **** today I did a ledgehop->teleport-> regrab -> onto stage waveland -> usmash on fox....

IT *****.

O_O I can't waveland perfectly on the stage.. man that would help.........

Maybe I should practice it one of these days....

 

[soap]

one time on story i got a up b stall, into ledgehop double up b platform thingy back to the ledge, thats like 3 explosions, im such a terrorist coming from the ledge.

 

[bahamutz69]

im such a terrorist coming from the ledge.

thats an amazing quote.
hey do u have any advice for a newish shiek? i kno i could look it up on a thread but uh... im still lazy :D

 

[Teczer0]

thats an amazing quote.
hey do u have any advice for a newish shiek? i kno i could look it up on a thread but uh... im still lazy :D

Dash attack is good but don't spam it so much. Get used to using it at the right times.

Grabs lead into simple combos like 95% of the time. So look for them .

F-tilt is really good but its very CCable and punishable, don't spam it so much. Its a very good combo starter/continuater *shrugs at the word*

Her kills moves are generally, F-air/B-air/D-smash. There are more but these don't take too much work to land.

Ummm... yea... thats the basics I guess.....

 

[bahamutz69]

o lol i kno all the jazz.
her grabs are alot of her game (drephen LOL).
and he fair is op.

i really dun kno when to use her dsmash tho.

 

[NeighborhoodP]

1. space. if you don't space your sheik will get *****.

2. stay on the ground. if you go into the air to do anything more than short hop (empty short hops, empty short hop to wavelands, empty short hop to ftilt, shffl fairs, needles, etc.), you will get *****.

3. dsmash is best used v space animals and i suppose falcon as well; i don't really use it much against other characters besides defensively (and no, this does NOT mean spamming it when pressured)

 

[Teczer0]

I generally don't use dsmash as much. I feel that there are often better moves and use to kill sometimes really.

Thats about the only time I really use. I feel that it doesn't follow up at all so yea....

 

[bahamutz69]

i still cant dmash effectively, not even to edge guard, i just drop of the ledge and fair :\ w/e.

so i was watching soaps tech vid and i got confused with the platform needles on YS.
i kno you can drop through a platform > needle and then theres no lag but when i SH > needle from under a platform i get lag..
what am i doing wrong?

 

[Teczer0]

i still cant dmash effectively, not even to edge guard, i just drop of the ledge and fair :\ w/e.

so i was watching soaps tech vid and i got confused with the platform needles on YS.
i kno you can drop through a platform > needle and then theres no lag but when i SH > needle from under a platform i get lag..
what am i doing wrong?

????

I'm kinda confused here....

When you land and throw needles you cancel the lag. Its done at any point as long as she is throwing needles.

So I'm not really sure what your question is.

 

[bahamutz69]

yea it didnt make alot of sense sorry.
ill try to explain it.
so when i jump from directly under a platform (SH or FJ) and throw the needles on my way up, when i land on the platform directly above me there is lag.
i hope i phrased that better.

 

[Teczer0]

Ahh I see.

Basically the auto cancel occurs when you land while you are in the animation of throwing needles.

If you use rising needles you will get all the lag.

Pretty much

 

[soap]

nope, no lag, there is "normal landing lag" when she bends her knees when u land on the platform after shooting that doesnt allow u to fall through immediately as if u were just standing.

this can be cancelled out with a walk, which u can then "isai drop" to fall through into moar moves

if uve never practiced isai dropping its really useful with sheik, u can do it with all her platform needles, and full jump rising autocancelled aerials onto platforms

 

[Teczer0]

nope, no lag, there is "normal landing lag" when she bends her knees when u land on the platform after shooting that doesnt allow u to fall through immediately as if u were just standing.

this can be cancelled out with a walk, which u can then "isai drop" to fall through into moar moves

if uve never practiced isai dropping its really useful with sheik, u can do it with all her platform needles, and full jump rising autocancelled aerials onto platforms

Whatever this guy said =D

 

[bahamutz69]

hmm i thought of that then tried it and failed lol.
ill just practice the 'isai drop'.
thanks guys :]

 

[soap]

Ahh I see.

Basically the auto cancel occurs when you land while you are in the animation of throwing needles.

If you use rising needles you will get all the lag.

Pretty much

wait this was actually kinda right.

if u rising needle, then land after the animation u cant instantly do a move, but u can walk or run to cancel that.

platforms u have to isai drop to fall through regardless i think. im not sure anymore exactly what it is i kinda just do stuff nowadays.

and i cant test it now

 

[DtJ Jungle]

errr..giong to be a nub for a sec? how do you do the isai ledge drop again?

 

[bahamutz69]

errr..giong to be a nub for a sec? how do you do the isai ledge drop again?

ooo ooo back off this ones mine.
WELL.....
instead of just dropping directly down, you move forward first, then drop down.
basically just roll the controller from > to V or < to V

:D then soaps gunna give a more detailed and better explained version

 

[soap]

im no magus, i just know random sheik stuff

 

[battousai555]

You tell me how much you hate Sheik, and now you want to learn how to use her? If you can't beat 'em, join 'em, I guess...

 

[bahamutz69]

well considering i get bored of comboing coms across FD with falco.
and i watched soaps vid and was like
hey im technical, maybe i can do that.
fail.
but im getting there.