Teh_Spammerer is too good

[A2ZOMG]

He says you should Up-B out of shield.

Anyhow, Mario's Up-B is confirmed to be invincible on the startup frames. He tested this against Bowser's Firebreath and it works.

He also says Mario probably does pretty good against G&W because of his Up-B out of shield, although sometimes he says it doesn't work if you don't angle it right against multihit attacks like G&W's B-air.

I've beaten the Mach Tornado with Up-B out of shield.

Lastly, Inui blows, and Up-B out of shield alone makes Mario >>> Ivysaur. Use it guys.

 

[Matt07]

Hmm this sounds really good, but say if you miss or something you can get severly punished for it, but I will definatly add this too my meta game against Game and Watch.

 

[HeroMystic]

Lastly, Inui blows

I knew that ever since he said Sonic's B-air had more kill potiential than all of Mario's moves.

I'll add B-air into my game more though. Thanks for the tip.

 

[Mario_ 101]

I don't think mario is good against G&W cuz of a little thing like that, but it will help no doubt.

 

[Ray/Boshi]

The thing with GW is you need to emphasize on certain things moreso then anything else depending on the move he does. Particulary how to counter react his annoying, constantly used, multi hit attack like Bair. If you could Up-B out of shield against that move each time every time. GW's main ground approach would be nullified. Without Bair he doesnt have much that you can't handle In my opinion.

 

[ThatGuy]

I don't own the game so I don't know this...can you UpB out of shield with Tap Jump off?

 

[SkylerOcon]

What do special moves have to do with jumping?

 

[Pierce7d]

Oh really, this is crazy, because I've been using Mario's UpB outta shield outta sheer habit from Marth for AGES. I didn't know it had actual invincibility frames though. This is super awesome. Now I can use it more liberally.

 

[boss8]

yea i actually been using it now it stops the mach tornado as well.....

hahaha take that metaknight.......

 

[Blackbelt]

So does this mean that having tap jump on would be better for Mario, for the same reason as it is for Marth?

 

[HeroMystic]

I don't see the point in having tap jump on at all.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Tap Jump makes it easier to Up-B out of shield since Smashing Up on the control stick initiates a jump. This allows you to U-smash out of shield too.

 

[HeroMystic]

Eh, guess I just have quick reflexes. The Up-B is pretty easy to do out of shield without tap jump honestly, and you can just C-stick the U-Smash when you let go of shield. Pretty easy without it, then again I haven't be relying on Tap Jump ever since I've been short-hopping in Melee.

 

[A2ZOMG]

Normally letting down the shield and attacking is slower than jumping out of shield and doing whatever. That's why Tap Jump is useful. There is ZERO lag from doing an Up-B or U-smash out of shield as opposed to a little big of lag when you simply let down the shield before doing something, and this is really significant in a game where powershielding is not hard.

 

[Hylian]

I would love to play a mario that gives me a challenge .

 

[boss8]

lol hylian i wish i wuz in texas.......

 

[A2ZOMG]

I would love to play a mario that gives me a challenge .

Will you be available this weekend? I will add you on AIM and on Brawl.

 

[Famous]

Yeah, UP-B out of shield is too good...

 

[Mario_ 101]

I don't own the game so I don't know this...can you UpB out of shield with Tap Jump off?

yes, but its a bit harder since you have to do it REAL fast.

 

[Matador]

Normally letting down the shield and attacking is slower than jumping out of shield and doing whatever. That's why Tap Jump is useful. There is ZERO lag from doing an Up-B or U-smash out of shield as opposed to a little big of lag when you simply let down the shield before doing something, and this is really significant in a game where powershielding is not hard.

I suppose this is also a big deal when stopping Meta's tornado. Any lag when dropping the shield gets you caught in the attack.