Teeter Canceling

[Agi]

I swear next time I find one of these we'll have figured out what's wrong with the capture card.

This may or may not already be known, as it seems to be a subset of ledge canceling, but any character's capable of immediately canceling their FAir into teeter while standing on the ledge, following up with any grounded option. How PRACTICAL this is is up in the air, but it has some pretty great coverage with Bowser here.

 

[Player -0]

It's literally just ledge cancelling.

 

[Agi]

Sure, edge canceling without the risk of momentum pulling you off the platform you're on. Oddly, in Melee, characters fall past the platform instead of landing in the teeter animation, not sure what's going on with that. (Also, someone on Reddit pointed out that you can use a taunt cancel to immediately put you into the teeter position, good stuff.)

EDIT: Apparently though, this IS already known (as both @Odds_ and @Chevy were quick to point out). Why it only ledge cancels with FAir automatically I don't know, but any other aerial can do the same thing with a quick tap of the analog stick.

 

[ilysm]

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that ledge cancels are affected by traction and momentum, and if you have too little or too much respectively you will slide off the platform--but it's all the same thing. Is that not true?

 

[Agi]

Ooh, update - figured out WHY it works, turns out that inputting left or right on the C-stick moves you very, very slightly in that direction - so this IS a ledge cancel, done automatically from this specific setup. This means you can flick the C-stick forward in the middle of any other aerial to achieve the same results without risk of overshooting the ledge.

@ ilysm : I think, with this new understanding, that ledge cancels are dependent on getting to this teeter position - going forwards, at least. Backwards you still have to slide off. So in other words, yes, to quote @ Player -0 , this is "literally just ledge canceling," lol.

 

[ApocalypticAids]

can i ask why it would be called a teeter instead of just a ledge cancel? also.. agidius, is that how you would ledge cancel? if so can you explain better. hard to find info on it.

 

[Agi]

Sure. Any time you land with an aerial (or certain B-moves) and end up in a position that you would be in teeter, all ending lag from that move is canceled out by the teeter animation - this is known as a ledge cancel, something which I mistakenly thought only had to do with sliding off the platform altogether. Usually if you jump while in a teeter situation, you move slightly out of the teetering area, and when you land, are no longer in teeter. However, if you use the C-stick to perform a forward air, you scoot very, very slightly forward back to the position you started in, and end up landing in the animation - useful, perhaps, to check a spacie side-B. You can do this repeatedly without falling off the platform.

 

[ApocalypticAids]

I'll give it a shot, thankyou! c:

 

[Agi]

Blu2 I dunno if you're on Smashboards but I greatly appreciate this insight into the potential hilarity of tech spam between stocks, this is amazing

 

[EarthboundHero]

Sometime with Ness, I can running DJC dair at the ledge and he'll land into teeter. It's pretty cool.

 

[blu2grut]

DJC teetering is so silly. Here is one I made a year ago when I first found it. This one does not have the hitbox out because its as fast as possible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9C5ncMoGb8