TC's Smash Café # 4 - Welcome to Michigan..where Metaknight is our destiny.

[Pimp Daddy Supreme]

ya we need way more to counter all the rampant usage

 

[Roller]

But what do we do about the usage?

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Michigan isn't MK infested, the hell?

What Michigan do you live in? 6 out of 8 people on our PR use MK. There are plenty of pocket ones as well as a few mains. More pocket though. Still..its there.

 

[Deleted member]

da **** is a reverse main?

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

2 of our top 8 Main MK. 2 other people in the top 8 use him as a secondary. Everyone else mainly saves him for jank stages. Outside the top 8 only 2-3 people consistently show up to tournaments that use him. I don't call that infested. Infested is more like, Pools? 3 MK mains and 2 other mains? Bracket? round 1 MK round 2 MK round 3 non-MK round 1 losers-MK round 2-losers non-mk round 3 losers MK. WF LF and GF? MK dittos.

If you want an MK infestation try going to WC, or tristate where even the randoms all main MK.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

There's still too many <_<

I may be exaggerating it but there's still a lot of Metaknights around.

@Goddy: You use your opponent's main and the opponent uses yours. You play a normal set otherwise.

 

[DRDN]

basically takes out most of the CP system

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

The side event should be Sheik dittos Bridge of Eldin only.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

That can be May's side event.

June will be Dedede Dittos on Green Greens.

And you can only use Grabs for dealing damage. Infinites on.

 

[THuGz]

Who does absolutely no one in Michigan ever use?
Side event dittos

 

[Pimp Daddy Supreme]

Try playing melée, have fun with the 10 billion fox mains

 

[JonathantheMeSa]

Pretty sure Gio, Marco and I are the only real MK mains that have been going to tourneys lately, and by that I mean I think Gio and I are the only MK mains who have been going to tourneys lately. I will agree there are a hell of a lot pocket MKs though.

 

[Boxxy]

yo imma need some sort of income (even if it's just $20) and since y'all are so ****ing free I might have to go to these again.

**** U that there's no marvel WTF play a non ****ty game for once


YO THIS STATE NEEDS A LOT MORE MKs for ****ing real. that ditto is the best mu the game and is actually enjoyable.

 

[THuGz]

LOL MK MK is not enjoyable. Nothing MK can do works against MK.

 

[JonathantheMeSa]

^ which equals not broken and challenging.... I mean it's pretty comon knowledge that us MK mains sandbag hardcore against non-MK tier to keep MK legal

 

[Boxxy]

maybe if you werent the dumbest person I've had the misfortune to read your posts you'd understand

stay dumb, ignorant, but most of all do what you do best, STAY FREE

 

[Pimp Daddy Supreme]

i think MK dittos are by far the most interesting and dynamic matches. camping doesn't really work, and it's 100% about hard reads and reaction time. it actually makes brawl fun. i would NEVER camp in my matches if my opponent didn't do so. it's funny, the people who complain the most about MK being 'gay' are also ones that camp the hardest.

 

[THuGz]

.... why the hate?

Things MK can't do against MK - tornado, approach, dair, fair, nair, dsmash first, grab, etc.
It's just like playing a character that has a lot less options because everything you want to do will be punished, unless you do it second. Why not just play captain falcon dittos - a ditto that's actually fun and balanced

 

[Pimp Daddy Supreme]

uhhh so you're saying MK dittos aren't balanced? what the ****?

 

[Boxxy]

roller after reading the garbage from this guy I no longer hate u and think ur a cool guy.

thugz mm me how much?

 

[JonathantheMeSa]

Why not just play captain falcon dittos - a ditto that's actually fun and balanced

MK be so broken that he has the advantage in the ditto..... I'd call the MU 65:60

 

[THuGz]

lol don't mm me

you are defending the gayest matchup in the game that no one outside of michigan likes. you guys are just messed up in the head.

 

[Pimp Daddy Supreme]

i'd rather do 100 MK dittos in a row than play against a campy ICs, snake, diddy, olimar, wario, or falco once

 

[Boxxy]

yo once u stop being the freest kid that I've ever the misfortune to see what garbage comes out of ur mind and actually know what you are doing talk to me

I'll mm u my anything (cept Lucas) against ur anything.

 

[THuGz]

K mm your ganon $500

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

I hate Metaknight's existence.

But the ditto is actually really fun and skill based. You HAVE to know what you're doing. You HAVE to have superior spacing because of most of his moves having transcendent priority. You HAVE to know your options.

Metaknight is gay and I hate his existence but the ditto is really fun. And he is fun to play as.

 

[THuGz]

That's what I can't stand about the MU though. You're playing another character, since your priority means nothing.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Which means your SPACING has to be on point. That's why its such a skill based MU.

 

[JonathantheMeSa]

The MK ditto is so fun because there is no safe move, you can get punished for absolutely everything you do but your opponent can be punished by anything he does, so it all comes down to making really good reads and knowing your opponent, and when you win you feel like you played soooooo well because you did. MK dittos da bess!!!

 

[THuGz]

You can't space in MK v MK. Spacing with MK vs GaW is staying just the right distance away so you can fair/dair etc. without getting hit. There is no space you can hit MK without also getting hit. ie. you can't approach or you will get hit. MK plays every match up abusing range and priority, and sometimes that makes him broken, but usually characters just don't lose based on the MU. Without priority and decent range, MK is a different, much worse character

 

[Sparta Kick]

The ditto can be dumb, like any matchup. It can turn into who can walk away and Ftilt better lmfao.

 

[JonathantheMeSa]

Without priority and decent range, MK is a different, much worse character

Yes. What you said is true, MKs moves are good. That is usually what makes a character good. But Diddy is useless without his naners, climbers are nothing without their CG, falco is nothing without his lasers....

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Ganon is nothing...period.

 

[JonathantheMeSa]

Ganon is nothing without his gimpability

 

[THuGz]

If NE had a LT PR, it would go as follows:
1) Rob's Link
2) My ganon

I don't think anyone else in NE plays lt, but even if they did this would be true

PS: I'll lt mm people too (^____^)

 

[JonathantheMeSa]

My Yoshi's got this...

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Pointless.

Also the next TCSC is May 21st, 2011. It has been updated in the PR thread.

 

[THuGz]

Woah what? I didn't say high tier

 

[Pimp Daddy Supreme]

You can't space in MK v MK.

stopped reading there

 

[Zankoku]

You can't space in MK v MK. Spacing with MK vs GaW is staying just the right distance away so you can fair/dair etc. without getting hit. There is no space you can hit MK without also getting hit. ie. you can't approach or you will get hit. MK plays every match up abusing range and priority, and sometimes that makes him broken, but usually characters just don't lose based on the MU. Without priority and decent range, MK is a different, much worse character

Well, **** dude. I don't know how I can argue with "you can't space when two characters of equal range fight each other." That's like saying "a swordfight has nothing to do with the length of your sword because both of you have swords", which everyone knows is flawless logic.