Zalak
Smash Lord
It seems like a lot of people are done with Greninja because of the latest update. I'm wondering how many of you plan to stick with Greninja THROUGH THICK AND THIN! RECENTLY, intending to wreck the town with my main man R.O.B, I came (kind of) close to winning my first Smash Bros Wii U tournament with Greninja. I hadn't really played much of Greninja before then, but I think I've started to really get what he/she's all about.
I used to think his/her specials were totally lame, but they're totally not. 0 charge Water Shurikens aren't totally game changing, but they're useful for baiting and adding percent to your oppnent in small increments. ALSO, fully charged shuriken can be very helpful for ledge-guarding.
Up B... what even needs to be said about Hydro Pump? It's a legendary gimp move, and an incredible recovery. It also greatly adds to Greninja's sneaky maneuverability.
SHADOW SNEAK! It's predictable, but it adds to Greninja's recovery options.
Substitute! I HAVE NOTHING GOOD TO SAY ABOUT SUBSTITUTE! I mean, I believe someone (MAYBE EVEN YOU!?) might find out some hidden rad use for it eventually, but for now, I just see it as a really bad counter...... which leads me back to
SHADOW SNEAK!
GRENINJA's TRUE COUNTER MOVE! YOU HEARD ME RIGHT FOLKS! SHADOW SNEAK IS A FAR BETTER COUNTER THAN SUBSTITUTE. I mean, I'm sure most of you have realized this already, but dang, this is what makes GreNINJA a true NINJA. Forget dodging or shielding, you can use this move to disappear out of harms way and instantly counter-attack with nearly smash-like knockback. I found this to be especially helpful when edge-guarding (though Greninja has some other edge-guarding moves that are totally better in most cases) and recovering, because you have no shadow in the air. If you can successfully read your opponent, or if they try to hit you with a totally telegraphed attack, shadow sneak will destroy them. Of course, unsuccessful use of Shadow Sneak will leave you open for a moment, so you need to be careful how you use it, but this move has a ton of utility. I'm barely even scratching the surface.
Quick disclaimer: This is not meant to be some kind of formal tutorial. Most of this stuff has already been pointed out before, and the sections for the moves that are not Shadow Sneak have a hardcore lack of detail. This is just me posting my opinion on Greninja now that I've played a tournament with him/her. I might write an actual full tutorial down the road though, after his/her meta has developed, and I've gotten more experience. BUT YEAH, I think Greninja has the potential to be a high tier character IF we give Greninja the chance Greninja deserves.
SO, BACK TO THE MAIN QUESTION OF THIS POST, WHO's WITH ME!? WHO'S GONNA TAKE GRENINJA ALL THE WAY!?
FEEL FREE TO POST YOUR OPINION OF GRENINJA AND HIS MOVES. THINK I'M WRONG ABOUT SOMETHING!? FEEL FREE TO POST! FIND A NEW UTILITY FOR ONE OF GRENINJA'S MOVES!? FEEL FREE TO POST IT HERE!
Stay ninja, everyone!
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(I AM STILL 100% SERIOUS I JUST FELT LIKE THIS VIDEO WAS TOO RELEVANT TO NOT INCLUDE AS PART OF THE OP)
I used to think his/her specials were totally lame, but they're totally not. 0 charge Water Shurikens aren't totally game changing, but they're useful for baiting and adding percent to your oppnent in small increments. ALSO, fully charged shuriken can be very helpful for ledge-guarding.
Up B... what even needs to be said about Hydro Pump? It's a legendary gimp move, and an incredible recovery. It also greatly adds to Greninja's sneaky maneuverability.
SHADOW SNEAK! It's predictable, but it adds to Greninja's recovery options.
Substitute! I HAVE NOTHING GOOD TO SAY ABOUT SUBSTITUTE! I mean, I believe someone (MAYBE EVEN YOU!?) might find out some hidden rad use for it eventually, but for now, I just see it as a really bad counter...... which leads me back to
SHADOW SNEAK!
GRENINJA's TRUE COUNTER MOVE! YOU HEARD ME RIGHT FOLKS! SHADOW SNEAK IS A FAR BETTER COUNTER THAN SUBSTITUTE. I mean, I'm sure most of you have realized this already, but dang, this is what makes GreNINJA a true NINJA. Forget dodging or shielding, you can use this move to disappear out of harms way and instantly counter-attack with nearly smash-like knockback. I found this to be especially helpful when edge-guarding (though Greninja has some other edge-guarding moves that are totally better in most cases) and recovering, because you have no shadow in the air. If you can successfully read your opponent, or if they try to hit you with a totally telegraphed attack, shadow sneak will destroy them. Of course, unsuccessful use of Shadow Sneak will leave you open for a moment, so you need to be careful how you use it, but this move has a ton of utility. I'm barely even scratching the surface.
Quick disclaimer: This is not meant to be some kind of formal tutorial. Most of this stuff has already been pointed out before, and the sections for the moves that are not Shadow Sneak have a hardcore lack of detail. This is just me posting my opinion on Greninja now that I've played a tournament with him/her. I might write an actual full tutorial down the road though, after his/her meta has developed, and I've gotten more experience. BUT YEAH, I think Greninja has the potential to be a high tier character IF we give Greninja the chance Greninja deserves.
SO, BACK TO THE MAIN QUESTION OF THIS POST, WHO's WITH ME!? WHO'S GONNA TAKE GRENINJA ALL THE WAY!?
FEEL FREE TO POST YOUR OPINION OF GRENINJA AND HIS MOVES. THINK I'M WRONG ABOUT SOMETHING!? FEEL FREE TO POST! FIND A NEW UTILITY FOR ONE OF GRENINJA'S MOVES!? FEEL FREE TO POST IT HERE!
Stay ninja, everyone!
Edit:
(I AM STILL 100% SERIOUS I JUST FELT LIKE THIS VIDEO WAS TOO RELEVANT TO NOT INCLUDE AS PART OF THE OP)
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