Mr.Black
Smash Rookie
When playing Ganon should I change the c-stick to attack or leave it as smashes?
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T-Stick
- Thread starter Mr.Black
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epic of DE
Smash Journeyman
Well...I don't main ganon personally but I don't see a great reason to switch the c-stick to tilts is what I think you're refering to.
this only makes a difference on the ground since whether its tilts or smashes in the air ganon will do a stomp if you tap the c-stick down with either set-up.
the best advice I'd say it to experiment with both and find if one works better for you than the other.
this only makes a difference on the ground since whether its tilts or smashes in the air ganon will do a stomp if you tap the c-stick down with either set-up.
the best advice I'd say it to experiment with both and find if one works better for you than the other.
Stormbane
Smash Rookie
There's really no point in switching the c-stick to tilts for any character. It takes some getting used to but all you need to do is slightly hit a direction and hit a to use a tilt. The c-stick makes good use of smashing as quick as possible.
Tujex
Smash Ace
IT's actually easier to do tilts with the basic controls than it is to do a smash attack. Leave the C-stick to smashes.
Mr.Black
Smash Rookie
Interesting.
Jekyll
Smash Ace
^^ THIS!
It also makes it easier to:
- Pivot tilts
- Do followups after >+B
- Buffer tilts after anything.
If you want to compare the ease of doing Gerudo followups with the two different setups, I can tell you that A-sticking makes it ridiculously easy. You just hit the direction of the tilt between the two times that your opponent bounces(I think...it's become so automatic I might have to check that). You can talk with Swoops about how it's done the other way since I'm pretty sure his C-Stick is still set to smashes and he's able to do them.
Between that and being able to do Dairs on the fly while edgeguarding without worrying about fastfalling to my death, I'm A-sticking for life.
I'm still C-Sticking my heart out, considering I've got d-tilt buffer out of gerudo and aerial down. Plus I don't use f-tilt out of Gerudo much, so really it comes down to personal playstyle. I still use c-stick for pivot fsmash and stutter step f-smash a lot, and I really don't want to change my habits to fit a-stick
.Speaking of true pivoting...Jekyll have you ever been able to consistently get d-tilt out of pivot? I've been working on true pivoting a lot and so far I've got jab and f-tilt down pretty well (I've got fsmash done for a while), but I can't get d-tilt down for the life of me...**** it it's probably easier with a-stick isn't it >_>?
Jekyll
Smash Ace
Yessir. True pivoting into anything is pretty easy with A-sticking. It's just a matter of doing the pivot and hitting a direction on the stick that gives you the tilt you want. I don't even have to worry about the A button at all since hitting the C-stick backwards gives you a jab. It's gold.
Agh, back to experimenting with a-sticking I suppose. It shouldn't mess me up much but it always does... I assume you can still iDA with tilt stick.
God ****...I might have been missing out on something. With true pivoting this easy, a-sticking is looking a loooot better. Pivoted d-tilts are godly like I thought they would be and i don't have to ever worry about accidentally doing d-smash (eeew) or fast fall when I try to buffer in a d-tilt...I mean i never did it anyways but...yknow >.>.
A couple things I will say though, kinda miss u-smash on c-stick and f-smash, but I might get over it. Also, a-stick seems kind of buggy at points. Randomly jumps or double jumps for me sometimes...weird.
EDIT: Also...know that reverse grab boosting is the sh*t
A couple things I will say though, kinda miss u-smash on c-stick and f-smash, but I might get over it. Also, a-stick seems kind of buggy at points. Randomly jumps or double jumps for me sometimes...weird.
EDIT: Also...know that reverse grab boosting is the sh*t
:034:
Smash Hero
Reverse grab boosting can be done with C-stick on smashes, too.
Anyway, I still don't think I'll leave this hanging over a stutter-stepped fsmash. That and I always use C for smashes, and I don't think I wanna get rid of the habit. It's just... so easy and fun...
Anyway, I still don't think I'll leave this hanging over a stutter-stepped fsmash. That and I always use C for smashes, and I don't think I wanna get rid of the habit. It's just... so easy and fun...
Yea, I did it with both C-stick and a-stick, I was just making the random comment
....Dutchman...I know it's hard but...let it go. You deserve something better.
lulz
To be honest I might end up switching between the two. The a-stick being buggy is certainly bothering me a lot.
Jekyll
Smash Ace
Yea, it gets ******** at times. Hitting the stick even at a slight diagonal gives you a jab(on the ground) or nair(in the air), and for some unexplainable reason, if you hit it just before coming out of any sort of lag(when your character normally can't do anything) you get a jump. It just takes a bit of getting used to.
Mr.Black
Smash Rookie
Will anyone type out a short pro-con thing for a-stick and c-stick? I'm having a bit of trouble deciding between them.
fromundaman
Henshin a go-go Baby!
I have a question: Is A-sticking useful for other characters as well? I ask because I tend to switch up certain characters (Like I mainly play Kirby, Ganon, and MK (though I'm not nearly as good with Ganon as the other two unfortunately), with Sonic, DK and Diddy on the side), and while I think I could maybe overcome my old C-stick habits with Ganon, I'm wondering if I could with any other char, and I think if I set up two different control schemes, I'm going to confuse myself.
Also, A-sticking means I can't stutter step anymore, doesn't it?
Also, A-sticking means I can't stutter step anymore, doesn't it?
Eh, it seems to be the most useful with Ganon because of buffered tilts, pivoting etc. It might be decent with DK because of his spacing game but I'm not a DK main.
You can still stutter step with a-stick: away on control stick, smash towards. It's really not to hard after you do it a couple times.
You can still stutter step with a-stick: away on control stick, smash towards. It's really not to hard after you do it a couple times.
PK-ow!
Smash Lord
Apparently, despite all my problems with handling a controller, I'm above average at being "gentle" with the control stick. I never fast fall my dairs when I don't want to, don't smash or run when I don't want to.
What I would like to know is what a pivoted tilt is. As I understood the pivot, "a pivoted tilt" was a contradiction in terms.
How so? It's a pivot...with a tilt afterwards. If you understand the pivot then you should know that you can throw a jab or f-smash out of it relatively easy. You dash away, dash again then hit back quickly, resetting you to neutral which you can immediately follow with whatever move you wish. Check my guide in the tech section, I have some stuff on pivoting and the link to the original thread on it.
PK-ow!
Smash Lord
Okay, so basically my problem is I didn't see this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4tmLsflA_c (phanna's vid)
and skimmed over your section on pivot for Ganon.
. . .
What I'll do is see if I can buffer reversed dtilts, then see if I can true pivot a dtilt (I mean manually). Sounds like if I can do those, I'll have no need of this A-stick.
. . . You know, I think I already am buffering reverse dtilts.
Also, this true pivot explains something I thought I was noticing. I would be messing around with dashing, and sometimes I would just stop moving, like I cancelled the dash. Couldn't correlate it with anything I was doing though, other than slightly pushing the control stick back at the time for a dash dance.
Ooookay, so thanks.