Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[Wario Bros.]

When I was supporting Shantae: Half-Genie Hero (still proud of dropping 200 smackeroos on that), I almost backed Mighty No. 9 (both Kickstarters started a week apart).

It's sad the whole MN9 hate train seems to have no brakes.

 

[Chrono.]

And whatever happened to that other Kickstarter they made? Red Ash was it? I forget.

It got funded by some Chinese company literally the day before the campaign was scheduled to end. It's been MIA ever since.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Every time I read the comments on these threads and every time I regret it.

I feel like I'm getting Nintendoomed pumped into my bloodstrea

That's just GAF

They're extremely a part of the "Nintendoomed" group.

Best to heed them no mind


Just like youtube comments, never read comments on anything. Ever.

pretending debug tools are bugs,

*sigh*

Just gonna chalk that one up to 4chan being dumb

It's happening boys.
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"Zebei has died before even getting to the Cornucopia. We have no idea how that dumb ass died that fast."

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

It's happening boys.
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How long will S.N.U survive?
Probably not for long.

 

[Aetheri]

It's happening boys.
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So....I'm competing against...an orangutan, squall, the sun and moon starters, Captain America and his squad, skyla with an arm cannon, shroom sniffing pac-man, ganondorf, the lunatic fringe, and mutha ****ing Gordan Ramsey?

Good thing I'm a galactic bounty hunter that drove several hostile races to extinction while destroying four planets in the process...

 

[epicmartin7]

Results so far.

Spoiler

Most people run away from the Cornucopia from the looks of it.

Ooh, poor @True Blue Warrior and SegaNintendoUbisoft ...

And it looks like Red & Green and Aetheri are pulling in all those resources!

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Technically, only the 3DS version of MN9 is a ROM. Rest are ISOs. That's already one big difference between file formats.

I get what you mean here, but technically this is not correct. Game carts/discs/whatever do not contain "ROM" or "ISO" files. Instead, these files are representations or copies of the contents of the disc, packaged together in a single file(not unlike a zip archive, for instance). ROM files contain basically a raw copy of all the files on a disc, while ISOs preserve the file system and directory structure of the disc.

Also note that ISO isn't the only format for disk imaging. There are many others, such as CUE/BIN, IMG, and more. Mac users should (as I understand it) be somewhat familiar with the DMG disk imaging format.

Of course, I'm not really an expert here, so for all I know I'm talking out of my gluteus maximus here.

Edit: Of course, your overall point is correct. How each system stores files on the disk is probably different, to say nothing of the executable code and such that will actually be run.

 

[Aetheri]

Results so far.

Spoiler

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Most people run away from the Cornucopia from the looks of it.

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Ooh, poor @True Blue Warrior and SegaNintendoUbisoft ...

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And it looks like Red & Green and Aetheri are pulling in all those resources!

dat's right...

 

[A Distant Demon]

So....I'm competing against...an orangutan, squall, the sun and moon starters, Captain America and his squad, skyla with an arm cannon, shroom sniffing pac-man, ganondorf, the lunatic fringe, and mutha ****ing Gordan Ramsey?

Good thing I'm a galactic bounty hunter that drove several hostile races to extinction while destroying four planets in the process...

Squall essentially broke time and space to kill a being that would destroy all space and time.


I don't think Zero suit samus wins that one.

Power suit samus on the other hand
I just wanted an excuse to post my second favorite Squall Limit Break.

Results so far.

Spoiler

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Most people run away from the Cornucopia from the looks of it.

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Ooh, poor @True Blue Warrior and SegaNintendoUbisoft ...

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And it looks like Red & Green and Aetheri are pulling in all those resources!

So I get a lighter. Squall is heavily associated with fire (Ifrit)

and then I run away. You run away from like. . .the first majot incident in the game.


**** this might be canon squall

 

[ChikoLad]

I get what you mean here, but technically this is not correct. Game carts/discs/whatever do not contain "ROM" or "ISO" files. Instead, these files are representations or copies of the contents of the disc, packaged together in a single file(not unlike a zip archive, for instance). ROM files contain basically a raw copy of all the files on a disc, while ISOs preserve the file system and directory structure of the disc.

Also note that ISO isn't the only format for disk imaging. There are many others, such as CUE/BIN, IMG, and more. Mac users should (as I understand it) be somewhat familiar with the DMG disk imaging format.

Of course, I'm not really an expert here, so for all I know I'm talking out of my gluteus maximus here.

Yeah, I'm aware of that.

I just didn't want to go into the nitty gritty of it here like you did.

But the difference in how a ROM and ISO works is exactly why porting games from one system to another, especially if one uses discs and one uses cartridges, is exactly why you can't just "run the ROM" on a different system and expect it to work.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Results so far.

Spoiler

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Most people run away from the Cornucopia from the looks of it.

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Ooh, poor @True Blue Warrior and SegaNintendoUbisoft ...

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And it looks like Red & Green and Aetheri are pulling in all those resources!

How long will S.N.U survive?
Probably not for long.

Welp, I was right.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Yeah, I'm aware of that.

I just didn't want to go into the nitty gritty of it here like you did.

But the difference in how a ROM and ISO works is exactly why porting games from one system to another, especially if one uses discs and one uses cartridges, is exactly why you can't just "run the ROM" on a different system and expect it to work.

Yeah I get what you mean. But I'm a computer nerd and couldn't resist the urge to be pedantic/show off my dubiously useful knowledge of how this stuff works.

 

[epicmartin7]

Here's more results.

Spoiler

Swamp Sensei confirmed to be better than Gordon Ramsey.

Ura tries an attack and misses while Chrono. dies from an unwarranted infection.

@Frostwraith still lives and @Fumi-Chan! as well as @Zzuxon receive free food.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Welp, I was right.

Hey look on the bright side, you're not me. I died before the game even started.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Here's more results.

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Swamp Sensei confirmed to be better than Gordon Ramsey.

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Ura tries an attack and misses while Chrono. dies from an unwarranted infection.

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@Frostwraith still lives and @Fumi-Chan! as well as @Zzuxon receive free food.

FFVIII has you randomly get money from out of nowhere even if it doesn't make any sense at the time. (EX in prison or something crazier)


The parallels continue!
I bet it was Cid

 

[Chrono.]

Here's more results.

Spoiler

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Swamp Sensei confirmed to be better than Gordon Ramsey.

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Ura tries an attack and misses while Chrono. dies from an unwarranted infection.

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@Frostwraith still lives and @Fumi-Chan! as well as @Zzuxon receive free food.

Somehow I'm not shocked.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Ya know...

I think I'm going to make my own Hunger Games...

This will be interesting....

 

[A Distant Demon]

I'm going to make my own Hunger Games...

Will it have Blackjack and hookers?




Emporer's New Groove X Yu gi oh ****post time?
Emporer's New Groove X Yu gi oh ****post time.

http://aeropajita.tumblr.com/post/144307537405/phuijl-optix149-phuijl-skarmorysilver

 

[epicmartin7]

Spoiler

Gordon Ramsey screams (like usual) and @Kenith as well as @AwesomeAussie27 tell stories about themselves.

@CyberHyperPhoenix climbs a tree to get some rest while @--- cries himself to sleep.

Substitution is defeated by Fumi-Chan!, but his life is then spared. ChikoLad dies in a knife fight with Ura making him savage status.

 

[Wario Bros.]

I want to find out, despite their Kickstarters launching a week apart, why Shantae: Half-Genie Hero hasn't gotten any complaints but Might No. 9 is.

What was Keiji Inafune doing prior to the MN9 Kickstater?

 

[Aetheri]

Here's more results.

Spoiler

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Swamp Sensei confirmed to be better than Gordon Ramsey.

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Ura tries an attack and misses while Chrono. dies from an unwarranted infection.

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@Frostwraith still lives and @Fumi-Chan! as well as @Zzuxon receive free food.

well how merciful of me...

 

[Opossum]

Results so far.

Spoiler

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Most people run away from the Cornucopia from the looks of it.

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Ooh, poor @True Blue Warrior and SegaNintendoUbisoft ...

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And it looks like Red & Green and Aetheri are pulling in all those resources!

Gordon Ramsey has a scythe, weapon of the Grim Reaper.

Literally Hell's Kitchen.

 

[Burruni]

A Distant Demon
One warning for Bravely Second.
Prepare to have to NG+ due to a prevailing "mechanic" across the game

Spoiler

There are a significant number of side quests that make you choose one asterisk at the cost of another. With a total of 30 jobs in the entire game.
So far I have 15 jobs, 21 technically because of 6 side stories giving me a choice. Lv36

 

[A Distant Demon]

If I have an infection why don't I just cast Esuna?

Stupid draw system

I want to find out, despite their Kickstarters launching a week apart, why Shantae: Half-Genie Hero hasn't gotten any complaints but Might No. 9 is.

Because the Shantae devs didn't make as many promises probably

A Distant Demon
One warning for Bravely Second.
Prepare to have to NG+ due to a prevailing "mechanic" across the game

Spoiler

There are a significant number of side quests that make you choose one asterisk at the cost of another. With a total of 30 jobs in the entire game.
So far I have 15 jobs, 21 technically because of 6 side stories giving me a choice. Lv36

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Spoiler

If I have to pick between two awesome jobs i'm going to be pissed.

Unrelated but do you know if they biffed the Valkyrie class? I LOVE spear users (FFIV will be fun if I remember correctly) but when I used that class in BD it seemed like it was complete garbage stat wise and ability wise (ignoring exploiting jump and hasten world)

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

I want to find out, despite their Kickstarters launching a week apart, why Shantae: Half-Genie Hero hasn't gotten any complaints but Might No. 9 is.

What was Keiji Inafune doing prior to the MN9 Kickstater?

I think it has to do with the fact that WayForward have been pretty vague about Half-Genie Hero's release date. That, and WayForward probably had to make some licensed games to pay the bills.

 

[epicmartin7]

Alright. So Day 2 for the simulator has started.

Except it's getting extremely late here. So I'll probably continue it in the morning unless someone would be willing to take over?

 

[Opossum]

Unrelated but do you know if they biffed the Valkyrie class?

I hope not. Marty McFly can't take much more.

 

[Burruni]

I want to find out, despite their Kickstarters launching a week apart, why Shantae: Half-Genie Hero hasn't gotten any complaints but Might No. 9 is.

What was Keiji Inafune doing prior to the MN9 Kickstater?

Way Forward have only had one stated delay. (Edit: Which was like November 2015 to now a tenative "2016" release, probably in part of Way Forward making some other games during the development)
Way Forward has been putting out more periodic updates and very frequently had user-input through varying polls.

Keiji Inafune has had a number of delays, with most of the reasonings stated being for what appear to be fairly minor factors.
He also went HARD on pressing this with the stretching ideas for things like the cartoon show.
Then Mighty No. 9's gameplay differences from Megaman have basically been met solely with upset voices, unlike the variance from say Azure Striker Gunvolt from Megaman X.

Then in the middle of this bit of a trainwreck of development, he's... pressed on this entire new project of Red:Ash which ALSO put out over-ambitous goals such as getting a movie for the game's story and the structuring being very episodic which REALLY soured the tastes in people's minds.

TL;DR: Way Forward have, in a sense, been more professional, more interactive with their fans, and more focused in what people wanted.

If I have an infection why don't I just cast Esuna?

Stupid draw system

Because the Shantae devs didn't make as many promises probably


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Spoiler

If I have to pick between two awesome jobs i'm going to be pissed.

Unrelated but do you know if they biffed the Valkyrie class? I LOVE spear users (FFIV will be fun if I remember correctly) but when I used that class in BD it seemed like it was complete garbage stat wise and ability wise (ignoring exploiting jump and hasten world)

There's only been one real time I've been torn on a choice.

Spoiler

Theif or Red Mage = Red Mage
Summoner or Sword Master = Sword Master (you can't get both the summoner job and all summons in one cycle anyways)
White Mage or Merchant = White Mage
Black Mage or Hunter = Black Mage
Knight or Ninja = Went Ninja and a liiiiittle regretting it because evasion hasn't been in my favor
Valkyrie or Monk = THIS WAS THE TOUGH ONE. I want Valkyrie because honestly it's the group encounters of enemies that have been giving me more strife than the bosses.

 

[epicmartin7]

Opossum : Did you possibly want to take over? I PM'd you the link to it if you want.


EDIT: Already taken care of!

 

[ChikoLad]

Keiji Inafune also went and started up a Kickstarter for Red Ash and for a Mighty No. 9 Animated Series.

He was far too eager to make MN9 a franchise like Mega Man off of one game, to the point where he worked on these things way before the game was done.

Also there is some other game they were making that got cancelled but I can't remember what it was.

 

[Wario Bros.]

Something tells me we won't see anymore new Pokémon until June.

Hope I'm wrong.

And I need to get back to OmegaRuby.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Way Forward have only had one stated delay.
Way Forward has been putting out more periodic updates and very frequently had user-input through varying polls.

Keiji Inafune has had a number of delays, with most of the reasonings stated being for what appear to be fairly minor factors.
He also went HARD on pressing this with the stretching ideas for things like the cartoon show.
Then Mighty No. 9's gameplay differences from Megaman have basically been met solely with upset voices, unlike the variance from say Azure Striker Gunvolt from Megaman X.

Then in the middle of this bit of a trainwreck of development, he's... pressed on this entire new project of Red:Ash which ALSO put out over-ambitous goals such as getting a movie for the game's story and the structuring being very episodic which REALLY soured the tastes in people's minds.

TL;DR: Way Forward have, in a sense, been more professional, more interactive with their fans, and more focused in what people wanted.



There's only been one real time I've been torn on a choice.

Spoiler

Theif or Red Mage = Red Mage
Summoner or Sword Master = Sword Master (you can't get both the summoner job and all summons in one cycle anyways)
White Mage or Merchant = White Mage
Black Mage or Hunter = Black Mage
Knight or Ninja = Went Ninja and a liiiiittle regretting it because evasion hasn't been in my favor
Valkyrie or Monk = THIS WAS THE TOUGH ONE. I want Valkyrie because honestly it's the group encounters of enemies that have been giving me more strife than the bosses.

1st, 4th, and 5th are super tough choices for me. I mean. . . the first one is two of my favorite classes
In my FF3 run I have Luneth as the second and Refia as the first and they're my MVPs. This is going to suck hard :/


Expect me to complain about this immediately after I get to that part because it sounds like terrible game design, especially based on the premise of the 2 games.

I hope not. Marty McFly can't take much more.

It's been too long since I posted this

 

[Ura]

Spoiler

ChikoLad dies in a knife fight with Ura making him savage status.

Not too far from actual Smashboards canon. ChikoLad should have saw it coming.

 

[Opossum]

1st, 4th, and 5th are super tough choices for me. I mean. . . the first one is two of my favorite classes
In my FF3 run I have Luneth as the second and Refia as the first and they're my MVPs. This is going to suck hard :/


Expect me to complain about this immediately after I get to that part because it sounds like terrible game design, especially based on the premise of the 2 games.

It's been too long since I posted this

Biff was the antagonist of the Back to the Future films. You meant Buffed I presume.

 

[Z25]

....
Sonic Boom isn't a good example because those were two entirely different games on entirely different systems and this'd be largely the same ROM being played on varying other systems?

Yes different roms, but that could actually still help my point. They build them similarly, but a sysem may end up with one problem that another doesn't have, or something could go work. Multi platform could lead to problems, but I wouldn't say it's a big issue if it ends up bad upon release.

It's happening boys.
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Nice!
and Good guy @LIQUID12A for letting me into his shelter!

and Lol at Gordan Ramsey

Something tells me we won't see anymore new Pokémon until June.

Hope I'm wrong.

And I need to get back to OmegaRuby.

This is probably true. We might get another trailer around E3 and CoroCoro next month, as it promises a new scoop.

 

[Burruni]

I think... I think this comparison will kinda share one view on the comparison of MN9 to HGH

A big promotional effect, focusing namely on action and all these extra modes with little that's actually focused on main gameplay and... some strained attempts to be humorous.

Short. Without a word. All gameplay.
Letting the game and effort speak for itself in the core kind of adventure it's going to bring.

Yes I'm biased towards HGH but still.

Edit: And the former was made 6 months later into the dev cycle.

 

[Substitution]

Spoiler

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Gordon Ramsey screams (like usual) and @Kenith as well as @AwesomeAussie27 tell stories about themselves.

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@CyberHyperPhoenix climbs a tree to get some rest while @--- cries himself to sleep.

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Substitution is defeated by Fumi-Chan!, but his life is then spared. ChikoLad dies in a knife fight with Ura making him savage status.

And now watch as I die to my own stupidity.
That always seems to be how I go: I kill a bunch of people, and then die because I'm stupid.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

OKAY!

I made all the choices...

Now how do these options work...

Hmm....

 

[A Distant Demon]

Biff was the antagonist of the Back to the Future films. You meant Buffed I presume.

And that is why I have this title folks. I didn't choose it without reason!

Spoiler

 

[Red & Green]

Spoiler

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Gordon Ramsey screams (like usual) and @Kenith as well as @AwesomeAussie27 tell stories about themselves.

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@CyberHyperPhoenix climbs a tree to get some rest while @--- cries himself to sleep.

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Substitution is defeated by Fumi-Chan!, but his life is then spared. ChikoLad dies in a knife fight with Ura making him savage status.

Oh, you doing a hunger games thing?

I never got how that works, in all honesty. Does make for some funny situations, tho.