Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[Ivander]

Thoughts? Coincidence or actually happening?

I wonder if this means we will see a few more mons like Ashgreninja?

Interesting. I wouldn't be against it, although I do hope that it is done well. That being said, I would like to see more human-Pokemon interactions besides fusion, like bringing back the walking Pokemon from HeartGold/SoulSilver and doing stuff like surfing on Lapras, Wailmer, Sharpedo and Kyogre, flying on Latios/Latias and riding on Rhyhorn and Mamoswine in X/Y.

Wasn't this something in one of the Mega Man Battle Network games or something?

Well on a more related note this is a pretty common Pokémon fanfiction concept anyway. . .

That was actually only a thing in the anime. The only close thing to that was in Battle Network 3. But it wasn't even the same thing as the Battle Network anime. The other Fusion thing you might be thinking of was the Soul system of Battle Network 4, 5 and 6 where Megaman could bring a soul/data of another Navi into himself to become a combined version of himself and the other Navi. But once again, in those games, he never did that with a human character.
The only other thing I can also think of is Megaman StarForce, where I think the "special characters" did merge with humans.

"Oh man, I never really go to reading PokeBurst. I only heard the basis of it. I wonder what the fusions look li--"

Oh.
Ohhhh...
The internet's gonna have FUN if this becomes a mainline thing.

Is that Virizion?

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

I'm seriously trying to avoid Steven Universe spoilers at the moment, but more than enough users on Facebook and YouTube are already posting spoilers of future episodes. Can't the next Steven Bomb just hurry up this Spring?

 

[Burruni]

Interesting. I wouldn't be against it, although I do hope that it is done well. That being said, I would like to see more human-Pokemon interactions besides fusion, like bringing back the walking Pokemon from HeartGold/SoulSilver and doing stuff like surfing on Lapras, Wailmer, Sharpedo and Kyogre, flying on Latios/Latias and riding on Rhyhorn and Mamoswine in X/Y.

That was actually only a thing in the anime. The only close thing to that was in Battle Network 3. But it wasn't even the same thing as the Battle Network anime. The other Fusion thing you might be thinking of was the Soul system of Battle Network 4, 5 and 6 where Megaman could bring a soul/data of another Navi into himself to become a combined version of himself and the other Navi. But once again, in those games, he never did that with a human character.
The only other thing I can also think of is Megaman StarForce, where I think the "special characters" did merge with humans.

Is that Virizion?

Some woman fused with Virizion, yes.

 

[Haze.]

Is that Virizion?

Yeah it's a Virizion.

Not really a huge fan of the fusion thing to be honest, it's fine in a manga but I'd rather it stay out of the main games. Mega pokemon were fine but I'd rather things don't get too crazy lol.

 

[Coricus]

Interesting. I wouldn't be against it, although I do hope that it is done well. That being said, I would like to see more human-Pokemon interactions besides fusion, like bringing back the walking Pokemon from HeartGold/SoulSilver and doing stuff like surfing on Lapras, Wailmer, Sharpedo and Kyogre, flying on Latios/Latias and riding on Rhyhorn and Mamoswine in X/Y.

That was actually only a thing in the anime. The only close thing to that was in Battle Network 3. But it wasn't even the same thing as the Battle Network anime. The other Fusion thing you might be thinking of was the Soul system of Battle Network 4, 5 and 6 where Megaman could bring a soul/data of another Navi into himself to become a combined version of himself and the other Navi. But once again, in those games, he never did that with a human character.
The only other thing I can also think of is Megaman StarForce, where I think the "special characters" did merge with humans.

Is that Virizion?

Ah.

That's what I get for binge watching the anime a couple years ago and making the mistake of assuming it kept closer to the original games than most anime adaptions.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

I'm seriously trying to avoid Steven Universe spoilers at the moment, but more than enough users on Facebook and YouTube are already posting spoilers of future episodes. Can't the next Steven Bomb just hurry up this Spring?

Really? Time to unsubscribe from every Steven Universe channel for the next four months.

 

[Z25]

Man the mission to save corrin's child in conquest is so freaking long!

So many stupid things happen to kill my team.

Any tips?
and is i worth capturing the axe wielders?

 

[Burruni]

Man the mission to save corrin's child in conquest is so freaking long!

So many stupid things happen to kill my team.

Any tips?
and is i worth capturing the axe wielders?

A) Rush. They won't get reinforcements if the enemies on that "wing" are all dead.
B) Nobody is worth capturing. Even the named units you can only get through capturing.

 

[Ivander]

Ah.

That's what I get for binge watching the anime a couple years ago and making the mistake of assuming it kept closer to the original games than most anime adaptions.

Oh believe me, while they do share characters, the games and the anime are two different beasts.

 

[Coricus]

Oh believe me, while they do share characters, the games and the anime are two different beasts.

As it usually goes. I feel rather silly for making the mistake, really.

 

[Soul.]

Thoughts? Coincidence or actually happening?

I wonder if this means we will see a few more mons like Ashgreninja?

Would be interesting, though I'm not sure if I would like Trainers fusing with Pokémon. Maybe if it's like the anime where it's just the Pokémon itself that takes the appearance of the Trainer, like Ash-Greninja.

 

[Z25]

A) Rush. They won't get reinforcements if the enemies on that "wing" are all dead.
B) Nobody is worth capturing. Even the named units you can only get through capturing.

Thanks! What do you mean rush?
Is there something I need to destroy to prevent reinforcements?

 

[Burruni]

Thanks! What do you mean rush?
Is there something I need to destroy to prevent reinforcements?

I mean pair people up with fliers and just FLOOD over to the enemies and kill them off. If you kill a "grouping," it won't be able to call in reinforcements.
I didn't have issues on it, personally.

 

[Deleted member]

Well, at least people are starting to back you up now. On Nintendo Life, they wrote this in their article...
View attachment 98766
...without any mention of Source Gaming.

People then started to post this in the comments...

...which shows that your statement did make a lot of people aware on what was happening.

I'm just quoting this so someone van tell me if they know where to find that Corrin avi

Thoughts? Coincidence or actually happening?

I wonder if this means we will see a few more mons like Ashgreninja?

On a scale from 1 to "Bringing back Gen 1's mechanics", how bad is this idea?

Man the mission to save corrin's child in conquest is so freaking long!

So many stupid things happen to kill my team.

Any tips?
and is i worth capturing the axe wielders?

If you haven't done so, use the Dragon Veins to rise up the water and abuse the chokepoints
Bow users and Keaton(Beastbane) are good for taking down the flying units
And no, unless you are a fan of the bandit twin brothers, and seeing as this is your first game, you probably aren't

Speaking of Conquest, I just finished Chapter 25, will write my thoughts on another post though

 

[A Distant Demon]

I'm just quoting this so someone van tell me if they know where to find that Corrin avi

On a scale from 1 to "Bringing back Gen 1's mechanics", how bad is this idea?

If you haven't done so, use the Dragon Veins to rise up the water and abuse the chokepoints
Bow users and Keaton(Beastbane) are good for taking down the flying units
And no, unless you are a fan of the bandit twin brothers, and seeing as this is your first game, you probably aren't

Speaking of Conquest, I just finished Chapter 25, will write my thoughts on another post though

Typed up "Corrin smug"

Bingo


Although Google thinks I meant to say "Corn Smut"

*sigh*

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I'm just quoting this so someone van tell me if they know where to find that Corrin avi

On a scale from 1 to "Bringing back Gen 1's mechanics", how bad is this idea?

If you haven't done so, use the Dragon Veins to rise up the water and abuse the chokepoints
Bow users and Keaton(Beastbane) are good for taking down the flying units
And no, unless you are a fan of the bandit twin brothers, and seeing as this is your first game, you probably aren't

Speaking of Conquest, I just finished Chapter 25, will write my thoughts on another post though

This idea is much worse than bringing gen 1 mechanics back

 

[Z25]

I mean pair people up with fliers and just FLOOD over to the enemies and kill them off. If you kill a "grouping," it won't be able to call in reinforcements.
I didn't have issues on it, personally.

I'm just quoting this so someone van tell me if they know where to find that Corrin avi

On a scale from 1 to "Bringing back Gen 1's mechanics", how bad is this idea?

If you haven't done so, use the Dragon Veins to rise up the water and abuse the chokepoints
Bow users and Keaton(Beastbane) are good for taking down the flying units
And no, unless you are a fan of the bandit twin brothers, and seeing as this is your first game, you probably aren't

Speaking of Conquest, I just finished Chapter 25, will write my thoughts on another post though

Thanks! I've been raising the first to flood gates and then doing a square formation, in which the characters sit and wait, and they usually one shot everyone, and if they don't corrin's child comes in destroys everyone.
IT works pretty well.

At least I finished chapter 10 yesterday. That was probably the easiest one to me so far. Liked it quite a lot!

Oh and I don't know, I'd wait till we actually see a mechanic first before judging it.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Didn't pokemon reburst not do well?

 

[Deleted member]

So, FE Conquest
Chapters 22-26 spoilers

Spoiler

Chapter 22 was hard, because unlike most chapters where you have two routes to go, you'll have your party divided through the entire map no matter what
Sakura is probably the only Hoshido sibling I care abput(well, at the time I played the chapter anyways), so having to see her watch all those deaths is actually pretty sad, Yukimura too, he's a cool guy

Chapter 23 was hard only at the beginning as I couldn't know how powerful the first set of enemies were and kept getting someone killed, after passing through them though, it all went smoothly(as in, no one died, the enemies still packed a punch
One thing to note is that enemies in this game have a way better AI(this ain't saying much though...) as some will only advance if your units are at range of two of them and some won't even attack should the results prove really bad for them(at least some do)
You can still abuse the fact that they'll ALWAYS go for the units that can't counterattack them, which gave me a hilarious one of Takumi shooting through his Ballista instead of attacking Corrin or Xander
Also, Takumi is edgy af lol

Chapter 24 was a tricky one, as in my first tries I usually wasn't near the Dragon Veins to slow the Pegasus down
Hinoka's cutscene is full Narm imo
Also, **** Azama, Hexing Rod is broken as ****. 10 range, halves HP and lasts the WHOLE battle
I then abused him to get some exp, this is why you give ranged weapons to bosses
The ending of the chapter was heartwarming tho

Chapter 25...
Man, Iago, you really ARE a piece of ****
Ryoma went full revenge mode and "I have no sister"
At least he can light torches with his sword so that's cool
The map though
IS THAT A SWORDMASTER WIELDING DUAL BLADES??? I WANT THAT SWORD NOW! GIMME GIMME
I had to restart a lot because enemies would always gang on someone
And then I left Xander in front of Saizo because he could survive his attacks... while forgetting he has a Flame Shuriken that's a magic weapon...
Speaking of Saizo, HE HAS NO SPECIAL DIALOGUE WHEN FIGHTING KAZE WHAT THE HELL?
THE TWO HAD ONE BACK IN CHAPTER 13 WHY DON'T THEY HAVE IT NOW????
The ending cutscene
My, oh my
I knew he was going to die in some ways and I already expected him to commit suicide from the trailers but I did not expect this
I could even feel Corrin's pain
Oh gods

Then comes Chapter 26
Having all the siblings turn against Iago and Hans and deliviring "The reason you suck" speech was incredible and amazing
Finally, I'll be able to kill those two ********
This chapter has been easier than the previous ones, probably because I looked at the left side and said "nope" and just decided to keep all of my units together
I'll see if that chest is worth it
Almost at Iago, had to stop because my 3DS was running low on battery
But is Hans wielding a 22 mt Axe? And I can have it? Cool!
*has no S Rank axe users*
****

 

[Deleted member]

You know, for some reason i just remembered the times before E3 2014 when people were against Pac-Man beign in the roster.

When i mean against, i don't mean something like "I don't care about Pac-Man, i would prefer someone else", i mean something like "PAC-MAN IS SUCH A DUMB IDEA. WHAT IS HE GONNA DO?".

I never understood that. I mean i can understand people not caring about him, but there was so much flak for him before his confirmation.
No joke, before his reveal, there was a lot people angry about the idea of him beign playable, and i still don't understand why. I even remember once a person claiming that Pac-Man ruined Smash Bros. Really?

Makes me wonder how those people reacted to the DLC 3rd parties.

 

[Curious Villager]

You know, I never actually realized that Melee also had low poly versions of the characters just like Super Smash Bros for 3DS does.
This caught me a bit by surprise when I saw these models uploaded to the models resource recently.

I wonder when this can be the most easily noticed since from what I recall, the models looked about fine most of the time. But then again, I haven't played Melee in quite sometime....

 

[Autumn ♫]

You know, I never actually realized that Melee also had low poly versions of the characters just like Super Smash Bros for 3DS does.
This caught me a bit by surprise when I saw these models uploaded to the models resource recently.

I wonder when this can be the most easily noticed since from what I recall, the models looked about fine most of the time. But then again, I haven't played Melee in quite sometime....

What happened to Bowser!? He looks super off.

 

[ChikoLad]

You know, I never actually realized that Melee also had low poly versions of the characters just like Super Smash Bros for 3DS does.
This caught me a bit by surprise when I saw these models uploaded to the models resource recently.

I wonder when this can be the most easily noticed since from what I recall, the models looked about fine most of the time. But then again, I haven't played Melee in quite sometime....

Those models are used for the "magnifying glass" when characters are off-screen.

It's pretty easy to notice with characters like Mario, Kirby, and Pikachu.

It's kinda cool since they look like N64 models.

 

[Curious Villager]

What happened to Bowser!? He looks super off.

Models in certain games get replaced by a low poly version when viewed from a distance or in games that use a lot of objects in view in order to prevent much lag from occurring. This can be most noticeable in games like Super Mario 64 and Super Smash Bros for 3DS.

This is a low poly version for Bowser when he's not so close by the screen.

Those models are used for the "magnifying glass" when characters are off-screen.

It's pretty easy to notice with characters like Mario, Kirby, and Pikachu.

It's kinda cool since they look like N64 models.

Oh I see, that makes sense.

I wonder if some of these models can be imported to Super Smash Bros 64....

 

[KingofPhantoms]

You know, for some reason i just remembered the times before E3 2014 when people were against Pac-Man beign in the roster.

When i mean against, i don't mean something like "I don't care about Pac-Man, i would prefer someone else", i mean something like "PAC-MAN IS SUCH A DUMB IDEA. WHAT IS HE GONNA DO?".

I never understood that. I mean i can understand people not caring about him, but there was so much flak for him before his confirmation.
No joke, before his reveal, there was a lot people angry about the idea of him beign playable, and i still don't understand why. I even remember once a person claiming that Pac-Man ruined Smash Bros. Really?

Makes me wonder how those people reacted to the DLC 3rd parties.

Pac-man was a very oddball case for me. For a time I didn't think Pac-man would be a good idea (or at least wasn't a feasible one) because I personally couldn't see how they could create a moveset for him. I wasn't all that creative when it came to movesets.

After a while I became indifferent to him, then not too long before his reveal I warmed up to him and was glad to see he made it in.

I do remember there being a notable amount of people against him, but I don't remember people saying anything as harsh as that he ruined the game.

 

[A Distant Demon]

You know, for some reason i just remembered the times before E3 2014 when people were against Pac-Man beign in the roster.

When i mean against, i don't mean something like "I don't care about Pac-Man, i would prefer someone else", i mean something like "PAC-MAN IS SUCH A DUMB IDEA. WHAT IS HE GONNA DO?".

I never understood that. I mean i can understand people not caring about him, but there was so much flak for him before his confirmation.
No joke, before his reveal, there was a lot people angry about the idea of him beign playable, and i still don't understand why. I even remember once a person claiming that Pac-Man ruined Smash Bros. Really?

Makes me wonder how those people reacted to the DLC 3rd parties.

How did I miss this post?
Maybe because it was posted by a Nobody?


I'm sure everyone knows by now people were worried about Ghoslty adventures pac man becoming playable instead of his World design, and then there were people who didn't look past the arcade game where all he did was eat.

As for AFTER his announcement. . .either people who don't like playing against him (spam) or Nintendo Purists, of which there are many.

Makes me wonder how those people reacted to the DLC 3rd parties.

Likely not very well based on your description

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

http://www.giantbomb.com/profile/lo...venture-2-has-the-best-story-in-gaming/87241/

I don't have the patience to read all of this right now but god damn.

"After reading the whole thing, i'm confused, and i don't understand.

So you're trying to say that the game's background music was a powerful story-telling technique?"

"Yes"

Tl:dr

The plot, characters, and story can all suck if the generic background music has a buried meaning.

He's saying as long as something has hidden "depth" it automatically is great

Edit:
"Ohtani's story was basically that of a man torn to pieces by the realization that his entire life is a self-fabricated monstrosity. Basically, Ohtani is implying through his lyrics that the world of Sonic the Hedgehog is actually an illusion, formed under the aide of hallucinogens, that Knuckles has created to shelter himself from the harsh realities of the real world. It's basically story of utter defeat by one’s own self and a glorious revelation and rebirth. The classic tale of a man becoming more than himself only when he is at his lowest. It's quite a remarkable story, and one made all the more so by the medium through which it is told. There are a few things essential to understanding this story to the fullest."

Only part that matters. The "hidden story"

 

[Deleted member]

Mfw when I can't buy the Pokemon VC because I only have $9.02 in my Eshop account
Rip Yellow Nuzlocke

 

[A Distant Demon]

Just got a 75% off Steam Coupon for a game I already own

Because I totally need a second copy of Valkyria Chronicles.

Thanks Gaben. . .

 

[Schnee117]

Just got a 75% off Steam Coupon for a game I already own

Because I totally need a second copy of Valkyria Chronicles. . .

You could always use it to gift it to some sad sap that hasn't played it before because that's a game everyone should play.

 

[A Distant Demon]

You could always use it to gift it to some sad sap that hasn't played it before because that's a game everyone should play.

Even I haven't played this game yet.

College+time+huge backlog+that ****ing desert (which I beat after slowly inching forward for a while)=bad times


Frankly I don't even know who I would gift it to. Though the inner businessman in me wishes to make a trade.

Oh look another game I HAVEN"T ****ING PLAYED

 

[Schnee117]

Frankly I don't even know who I would gift it to. Though the inner businessman in me wishes to make a trade.

Trade for a bunch of hats in Hat Simulator Team Fortress 2.

 

[Champ Gold]

Why do PSN sales suck especially the PS Plus games which are always indie titles? Nintendo atleast gives out Acr Attorney every once in a blue moon and Xbox actually lets you keep the games you get for free.


"NO, SONY. I DON'T WANNA BUY FREAKING SUPER BRO FORCE. The game isn't even fun at all.

STOP TRYING TO SELL THAT GAME, LET ME BUY THE JAK COLLECTION AND SHOVEL KNIGHT FOR A BARGAIN OR SELL OFF SOUL SACRIFICE AND DISSIDIA FOR A CHEAPER PRICE"

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

To add to the reburst rumor

 

[Wario Bros.]

There's theories of connections between Sun/Moon and RéBURST?

I haven't read that manga but I've heard it was poorly received by the Japanese fans.

 

[Schnee117]

Why do PSN sales suck especially the PS Plus games which are always indie titles? Nintendo atleast gives out Acr Attorney every once in a blue moon and Xbox actually lets you keep the games you get for free.


"NO, SONY. I DON'T WANNA BUY FREAKING SUPER BRO FORCE. The game isn't even fun at all.

STOP TRYING TO SELL THAT GAME, LET ME BUY THE JAK COLLECTION AND SHOVEL KNIGHT FOR A BARGAIN OR SELL OFF SOUL SACRIFICE AND DISSIDIA FOR A CHEAPER PRICE"

I remember when PS Plus was good with the "free" games. And then they forced it upon PS4 users for online.

 

[Coricus]

I tended to balk at most previously unincluded third parties prior to their announcements (except Mega Man, who aside from Mewtwo is the closest the modern fandom has ever gotten to a unanimous request) because. . .I don't know. Maybe the social cues taught me to hate anything I don't know, maybe I'm subconsciously salty at the elitism in the third party request community that causes the one character I really care for to be subject to some of the most thorough hatred in the fandom to the point where only ultra high-magnitude examples of torment like the "Ridley is too big" crowd got any more vicious.

But once a third party character gets in, I can usually examine them for their merits after a short 24 hour adjustment period.

And you know what? Everyone we've gotten has their place, either as a representation of the same arcade gaming that Nintendo became famous with initially via Donkey Kong, as the dream come true for an entire generation of boys and girls who grew up with an N64 and a PS1 and wrote little Smash Mansion fanfictions in their spare time, or as a dream come true for those people who actually voted in the Ballot for what they truly loved and thought was absurdly cool instead of what the trends at the time or the pangs of nostalgia told them to vote for.

And, well, maybe I need to keep a more open mind next time. It's going to be hard, partially because breaking habits is hard, partially because there aren't very many short, ability-centric explanations for what makes countless characters good, and partially because this fandom isn't a very good example of being open minded in the first place. But. . .I'll try a little harder. So far the only other third party character besides my most wanted I've self-justified is Jibanyan, who NOBODY seems to want, but it's a start.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I never really even use Steam coupons.

The games I get coupons for rarely catch my eye.

 

[Burruni]

There's theories of connections between Sun/Moon and RéBURST?

I haven't read that manga but I've heard it was poorly received by the Japanese fans.

The crystal in the sun & moon logo looks similar to the one in ReBurst that allows for fusion.
This + Ash's Greninja has lead to people thinking.

 

[Champ Gold]

I remember when PS Plus was good with the "free" games. And then they forced it upon PS4 users for online.

PS Plus is awful due the sole fact that nobody ever wants to use it for the sales but for the online which should be free.


I never liked Xbox selling their online features but Atleast their servers aren't hot garbage and when it gets hack, it only lasts at most a full day before fixing itself while PS has to wait over a damn week to fix its issues.


PS4 is a great system and so is the Vita but for **** sakes their online is worst in the industry. Yes, worst than Nintendo's whose a decade behind but is acceptable due to not having to pay to use online mode in games