Social Swamp's Social Thread 3 - And now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain...

[ChikoLad]

Perhaps, they could still have a team of debuggers to work on it, with Sakurai doing some slight overseeing, but still enjoying his (well-deserved) vacation.

Sakurai doesn't need to design anything else.

Not to mention, someone has to be monitoring online and doing such maintenance, including setting up Conquests for online play.

Because DLC is no longer in production, you no longer need people such as graphic designers, modelers, animators and coordinating with content creators. Just adjusting some values here and there and fixing some bugs, which a small team of fully employed debuggers can handle.

This is all hypothetical though.

We don't know if Sakurai would allow it. Or if Bandai Namco even has people still there for that kind of thing.

You don't need someone informed on the game's balance to overlook Conquests.

Plus, Sakurai did say that balancing is done by him and about twelve other specific people, right? If those people are let go, then there is nobody left for balancing.

 

[Fenriraga]

Some more stuff relevant to the Sonic x Madeon conspiracy.

I doubt it means anything, but Madeon made a joke about Can You Fell The Sunshine around that time too.

SONIC R 2 CONFIRMED. :V

 

[Frostwraith]

Indeed.

I mean, Sakurai can oversee bug and balance changes from a vacation.

Essentially, the hard work is over. Downhill from here.

Having done programming myself (and still do on a regular basis), debugging [after everything is done and designed] is much less hard work (in regards to having a bigger team and building stuff), but more something that you need persistence and trying things out, but is something that you don't need a huge team to work on.

It's not like Corrin and Bayo are this glitch fest of characters either. They just have some issues that need to be fine-tuned and it could be done in a patch releasing in one month or two from now.

Nerf Corrin's counter just a little bit and fix some of his bugs and that's all he really needs.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

We can confirm that Alex will be the first DLC character and he will be available in March! #StreetFighterV #RiseUp

— Street Fighter (@StreetFighter) February 9, 2016

A T E A S E L O O S A H

 

[Aetheri]

I don't see a reason why they won't have 1 or 2 more patches...they only just released TWO new characters and if one of them gets a game breaking or unbalanced glitch that got past the testers they need to fix it...

 

[IceBreakerXY]

I don't think she's bad by any means but I do think people are overhyping her.

This video isn't helping.

>"GUYS SHE HAS EASY MODE ZERO TO DEATH THAT WORKS ON ANY CHARACTER!!!"
>Depicts it being used on a Rosalina who literally waited for it (telegraphed as it was too), and despite there literally being no possible reason to do so, starts jabbing instead of shielding, dodging, or running in under Bayo's trajectory for a U-air
>"easy mode"

Staged as it can get.

I still question whether or not it's really 0-to-death too since from my experience, you can DI out of tons of her combos easily, especially with light characters like Rosalina.

Its get tedious watching you bash on bayonetta every time she's brought up especially since her release

 

[Kenith]

We can confirm that Alex will be the first DLC character and he will be available in March! #StreetFighterV #RiseUp

— Street Fighter (@StreetFighter) February 9, 2016

A T E A S E L O O S A H

I know nobody cares but I CALLED THAT ****
I knew because of hints but not-quite-hints at Alex he was going to be the first DLC character.

 

[Frostwraith]

Also, Corrin overall isn't that broken as some detractors are yelling because his mobility kind of sucks.

His recovery isn't something to write home about either.

 

[Champ Gold]

Also, Corrin overall isn't that broken as some detractors are yelling because his mobility kind of sucks.

His recovery isn't something to write home about either.

And Surge Counter is just like every other counter despite the insane knockback and KO power

Spoiler

KO Punch will ignore EVERYTHING and it just doesn't give a ****

 

[Substitution]

Ther-


.....You know what, I rather not tell you

Well now that you mentioned it you might as well say it. At this point I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Opossum]

I am now fully invested in this Sonic mystery thing. I have no clue what's going on but I love it.

 

[ChikoLad]

Its get tedious watching you bash on bayonetta every time she's brought up especially since her release

What?

I haven't been bashing on Bayonetta. I've been praising the character.

Any of you who are whining about her being OP are the ones bashing her. She's perfectly balanced.

I wasn't annoyed with the character, I'm annoyed with GiMR making a sensationalist, staged video to imply she's broken.

I also haven't even made any input most times she's brought up. There was a discussion on her earlier today about costumes and such I didn't have any input there.

I've also been shipping her with one of my favourite characters.

I don't know where you're getting this from.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm about to start Xenoblade Chronicles X
Finally, let's hope this game lives up to my expectations
Btw, any tips for someone who has literally no idea what he's doing?
Also, it downloaded some sort of update, is that the "bettef loading times" DLC or something else?

 

[Kenith]

What?

I haven't been bashing on Bayonetta. I've been praising the character.

Any of you who are whining about her being OP are the ones bashing her. She's perfectly balanced.

I wasn't annoyed with the character, I'm annoyed with GiMR making a sensationalist, staged video to imply she's broken.

Sure but you have to admit you've been quite quick to point out why she's not a good character.
Too soon to say either way, but there's nothing saying she won't actually have something discovered that makes her a tad broken.

Also, Corrin overall isn't that broken as some detractors are yelling because his mobility kind of sucks.

His recovery isn't something to write home about either.

Only on stages without walls.
Stages with walls give Corrin a great vertical recovery thanks to side B.

 

[Frostwraith]

And Surge Counter is just like every other counter despite the insane knockback and KO power

Spoiler

KO Punch will ignore EVERYTHING and it just doesn't give a ****

In terms of knockback, it's actually weaker than Ike and Shulk's and more or less around the same as Roy's.

It just happens to have an upwards knockback, which is actually advantageous in many occasions and makes it stronger compared to other counters.

Using Ike and Shulk's counters on the edge of a stage is going to be just as dangerous.

 

[Strofirko]

Anyone already pointed that joke out on tiers:
Top tier:
Trash tier:

I bet that was combined by the dev team.

 

[ChikoLad]

Sure but you have to admit you've been quite quick to point out why she's not a good character.
Too soon to say either way, but there's nothing saying she won't actually have something discovered that makes her a tad broken.


Only on stages without walls.
Stages with walls give Corrin a great vertical recovery thanks to side B.

I didn't say she wasn't a good character, I said she's probably high tier.

She's just not the "OMG SO BROKEN AND OP SHE CAN DASTROY TAP TEARS PLS NERF SAKURAI" that everyone is deluding themselves to think she is.

I mean if you want an already obviously flawed character (competitively speaking) to be nerfed, then by all means, whine for nerfs.

Probably not going to happen given recent news, but it wouldn't be the first time the community has cried for a boneheaded change or the team makes a boneheaded change.

I'm going against the misinformation that will make the Smash community hate her.

Take it from a main. She LITERALLY didn't have a hatebase before Smash.

 

[Champ Gold]

Well now that you mentioned it you might as well say it. At this point I wouldn't be surprised.

It's not that it won't surprise you, it's just that I don't want to unleash that "hell" upon HERE


I can give a hint saying you mentioned 'Sonic' & 'Cult' and that is all that I can say and will say.

 

[A Distant Demon]

I'm about to start Xenoblade Chronicles X
Finally, let's hope this game lives up to my expectations
Btw, any tips for someone who has literally no idea what he's doing?
Also, it downloaded some sort of update, is that the "bettef loading times" DLC or something else?

• Your squad members that aren't in your party don't get EXP
• You can level up skills AND arts from "Battle points"
• Join Pathfinders and become a Partisan eagle. Best Division. Best Class. It's what I did so it must be the best
• Level your mechanical skill because you get to put down probes
• Don't take "the repair job" affinity mission for a while. It was my first and it sucks unless you look it up.

 

[Substitution]

It's not that it won't surprise you, it's just that I don't want to unleash that "hell" upon HERE


I can give a hint saying you mentioned 'Sonic' & 'Cult' and that is all that I can say and will say.

You mean the site? Well that was disappointing. I was hoping it was some Sonic religion.

 

[Aetheri]

I'm about to start Xenoblade Chronicles X
Finally, let's hope this game lives up to my expectations
Btw, any tips for someone who has literally no idea what he's doing?
Also, it downloaded some sort of update, is that the "bettef loading times" DLC or something else?

Tips:
-Take your time...its a long game take it all in and try not to miss anything...
-Have a good long read of the game's manual...it is found in game when you press start...It helps
-Enjoy!

 

[Chrono.]

I'm about to start Xenoblade Chronicles X
Finally, let's hope this game lives up to my expectations
Btw, any tips for someone who has literally no idea what he's doing?
Also, it downloaded some sort of update, is that the "bettef loading times" DLC or something else?

Go for the Prospectors division.

 

[Champ Gold]

You mean the site? Well that was disappointing. I was hoping it was some Sonic religion.

Yeah but that site is an actual tumor and cancer AT THE SAME TIME

 

[NintenZ]

Opossum , can I just note how ironic the thread's title is?

 

[BluePikmin11]

How do you change divisions in Xenoblade X.

 

[LIQUID12A]

I'm about to start Xenoblade Chronicles X
Finally, let's hope this game lives up to my expectations
Btw, any tips for someone who has literally no idea what he's doing?
Also, it downloaded some sort of update, is that the "bettef loading times" DLC or something else?

Save every time you plan to engage a powerful enemy in a Skell.

Save scumming is your friend in case you mess up and lose insurance.

 

[Substitution]

Yeah but that site is an actual tumor and cancer AT THE SAME TIME

Well to be fair, it does say "may offend". I mean at least give you a warning about it.

 

[Bedoop]

Back from School
Huppah
How goes everyone here
@Zoroarking has the Smash Battle thing already happened or

 

[Aetheri]

How do you change divisions in Xenoblade X.

In the BLADEs Barracks go to the Division Console in the back room you should be able to change it there...

 

[Ivander]

I'm about to start Xenoblade Chronicles X
Finally, let's hope this game lives up to my expectations
Btw, any tips for someone who has literally no idea what he's doing?
Also, it downloaded some sort of update, is that the "bettef loading times" DLC or something else?

I believe you have to download the better loading times from the eShop in the form of 4 packs. Nice thing is that it's free. But yeah, I'm pretty sure the update you got isn't that.
Anyway, not exactly a tip, but something I'll suggest. Try to see how many mountains you can climb and get to the top of without using a Skell. It's actually fun trying to find places that look un-climbable without a Skell and yet find ways of climbing up and getting to the highest parts without one.
Also, if you want a easy-for-beginners class, go for Duelist. Otherwise, if you want challenge, than avoid that one, since that class is actually very easy to use and has alot of powerful skills and Arts.

Spoiler: Another tip for BLADE Padawans

Also, I just want to mention that once you get Shadowrunner and Blood Sacrifice for Elma (or for your MC eventually), if you put her as your lead and use Blood Sacrifice first than Shadowrunner, than immediately put your weapons away before a battle happens, you can avoid aggroing enemies, even very high level enemies that would aggro you naturally if you get too close. Or at least, so far I haven't aggroed anything yet. All I've been doing is BLADE mindtricks on Lv.50 and higher enemy aliens, going "These aren't the BLADES you're looking for." and stuff.
Anyway, since Shadowrunner is an Aura, it will run out eventually so you have to make sure you're in a safe spot before it runs out. A nice thing to note is that for activating Shadowrunner and Blood Sacrifice is that even if you aren't in battle, for using those 2 arts, they will go through a cycle of doing a recharge and second recharge unless you do aggro something accidentally, in which it will not go through that phase. If you wait for the second recharge for Shadowrunner, than when you use it after it finishes it's second recharge, it will add extra time for your Aura, allowing you to avoid aggro for longer.
Either way, I'm telling you this trick cause there are certain quests that make you go for items, but more than often, you'll find ones that have enemies way over your level guarding them, including ones you can't see and target first. Using this trick, you can avoid aggroing them and even avoid aggroing the underground or above-air enemies.

 

[Frostwraith]

When you're playing Classic mode and get rekt by Master Hand and Crazy Hand just right...

Spoiler

I didn't say she wasn't a good character, I said she's probably high tier.

She's just not the "OMG SO BROKEN AND OP SHE CAN DASTROY TAP TEARS PLS NERF SAKURAI" that everyone is deluding themselves to think she is.

I mean if you want an already obviously flawed character (competitively speaking) to be nerfed, then by all means, whine for nerfs.

Probably not going to happen given recent news, but it wouldn't be the first time the community has cried for a boneheaded change or the team makes a boneheaded change.

I'm going against the misinformation that will make the Smash community hate her.

Take it from a main. She LITERALLY didn't have a hatebase before Smash.

Corrin's counter upwards knockback is what makes certain early KOs. On larger stages or stages with solid platforms, his counter won't be as good. It's just better than usual in more plain stages.

As a character overall, he's not overpowered. He has good moves, but his mobility just isn't on par with many of the sword users.

Overall, several situations in which Corrin's counter KOs, others do as well. Likewise, in most situations other counters don't KO enemies, so doesn't Corrin's. Overall, it works like the other counters, actually having less knockback power than Shulk and Ike's counters. It's just that the upwards knockback has its own peculiarities.

All this said, I still do think they could nerf it slightly. I do not mean nerf it to oblivion, but just a little bit to avoid certain situations such as KOing at 0% against specific moves. That's really all it needs and something that may have been overlooked by the developers.

Opossum , can I just note how ironic the thread's title is?

You ought to be telling that to me.

 

[IceBreakerXY]

@epicmartin7 now that the game development is over. Can you hit me up with a link so I can get that music modding up and going

 

[Deleted member]

• Your squad members that aren't in your party don't get EXP
• You can level up skills AND arts from "Battle points"
• Join Pathfinders and become a Partisan eagle. Best Division. Best Class. It's what I did so it must be the best
• Level your mechanical skill because you get to put down probes
• Don't take "the repair job" affinity mission for a while. It was my first and it sucks unless you look it up.

That first one sucks
*never changes party members in any RPG ever*
Why do I need probes?

Go for the Prospectors division.

There are divisions? I'm just gonna see them before deciding tho

Back from School
Huppah
How goes everyone here
@Zoroarking has the Smash Battle thing already happened or

No, cause the other canadians gaven't answered yet
I'll wait sometime but if they don't fo it I'll just put you and aldelaro

 

[Ivander]

Oh yes, and ALWAYS do Mechanical Lv. first. Cause in order to get some probes, it requires high Lv. Mechanical. ALWAYS do Mechanical first. Afterwards, once you reach Lv.4 Mechanical, you can do Biology or Archaeology at your own pace.

Why do I need probes?

They are your income and your fast transportation.

 

[Curious Villager]

@epicmartin7 now that the game development is over. Can you hit me up with a link so I can get that music modding up and going

You will probably have to wait until the IOSU kernel gets released. For now, you should keep an eye on this thread and block system updates if you want to do some Smash Bros for Wii U mods.

 

[BluePikmin11]

It's time for an Undertale theory!
I've been anticipating this!

 

[Aetheri]

That first one sucks
*never changes party members in any RPG ever*
Why do I need probes?

There are divisions? I'm just gonna see them before deciding tho

No, cause the other canadians gaven't answered yet
I'll wait sometime but if they don't fo it I'll just put you and aldelaro

Probes are how you build up your minimap...as you travel you'll sometimes happen upon a tall beam of light which indicates a probesite...some of them require different Mechanical levels (usually 1-4, but there are some at level 5 as well you'll need to do something special to get this but don't worry about those as there's just a few)
You can also make moneys and miranium from Probes as well...

Divisions are more for online interactions and aren't really necessary for the story at all...if players complete certain squad missions that are in your divisions you'll get certain rewards...as said it isn't something to really worry to much about, plus you can change it any time...
pick Intercepters though

 

[ChikoLad]

When you're playing Classic mode and get rekt by Master Hand and Crazy Hand just right...

Spoiler

Corrin's counter upwards knockback is what makes certain early KOs. On larger stages or stages with solid platforms, his counter won't be as good. It's just better than usual in more plain stages.

As a character overall, he's not overpowered. He has good moves, but his mobility just isn't on par with many of the sword users.

Overall, several situations in which Corrin's counter KOs, others do as well. Likewise, in most situations other counters don't KO enemies, so doesn't Corrin's. Overall, it works like the other counters, actually having less knockback power than Shulk and Ike's counters. It's just that the upwards knockback has its own peculiarities.

All this said, I still do think they could nerf it slightly. I do not mean nerf it to oblivion, but just a little bit to avoid certain situations such as KOing at 0% against specific moves. That's really all it needs and something that may have been overlooked by the developers.


You ought to be telling that to me.

Well I wasn't talking about Corrin, but...

I can see why people would want the counter nerfed but I don't think it's too bad. It's actually slower than other counters and you can escape from it in some situations. It's also much more punishable than other counters if it doesn't hit. It seems justified that it's stronger.

Also I personally find Corrin's mobility to be fine. B-air is quite useful as a movement option even on stage. I've done short hop B-air over an attack to a side Smash a few times now. Plus he has the side B. He also has one of the best projectiles in the game so honestly I think his mobility is fine where it's at.

The counter is the only thing one could possibly want nerfed about Corrin though, everything else is fine.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

It's time for an Undertale theory!
I've been anticipating this!

'The truth about Sans identity'...That's not a theory, that's a ****ing claim. Not to mention I'm pretty sure the game has enough stuff to say enough about Sans

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

...Ignore this post.