Super Smash Brothers Crusade - v0.9.0 Demo Available for download!

[felipe_9595]

Oh, you misunderstood; I didn't mean Fox's dair in general ( I agree that it's a great move, albeit a bit predictable).

I meant that Fox's throw to dair gimp on some characters is more situational than Falco's chaingrab to dair gimp.

I think Fox's dair is like MK's shuttle loop. A great move to throw out, but predictable at times and not the safest move when shielded.

thats not always true, you can shield presurre with a Non FF dair to Shine, with a little of look you can stab your opponent shield.

Dtrown to dair as gimping is just an option, you do it with nair or shine too.

Another good combo is Dtrown to Fair (the first hit) to shine

 

[dettadeus]

1. I saw only two unmodded stages in that entire video.
2. Your video editing skills suck, IMO. You had pause screens all over the place and used the same transition every time.
3. Lol CPUs.

The other devs being DMX and Phantom who would rather you make actual stages and not modifications. If they're going to use your stages anyways, would it kill you to wait?

 

[ensane]

Hmm, I think landing lag in Crusade is set to 2 frames. Do you know what the frames are for shield drop? That would determine whether or not it's even possible to punish.

 

[felipe_9595]

1. I saw only two unmodded stages in that entire video.
2. Your video editing skills suck, IMO. You had pause screens all over the place and used the same transition every time.
3. Lol CPUs.

The other devs being DMX and Phantom who would rather you make actual stages and not modifications. If they're going to use your stages anyways, would it kill you to wait?

1- And??? Not on SSBC Forums, you cant do a **** about it.
2- Sony Vegas Bug, in my project i dont see pause screens, and even some clips are accelerated Edit: transitions??? DIdnt want to, i only faded in and out the clips. Oh and 2 pauses =/= "pauses all over the palce"
3 ??? i only fight against lv 9 cpus

Edit: Wut????? I only played on modded stages, no hacks or something like that

Edit @ensane: Really dont know, some attacks doesnt have landing lag (Autocancel), about the shield, i really dont know, i think is 1 frame, the cpu can PS some attacks and inmediately perform a smash attacks without chances to shield.

 

[ensane]

I believe he's questioning the validity of doing comboes on CPUs

I think even auto cancels have the 2 frame landing lag. Like lag from aerial + the universale 2 frames. So moves that don' auto cancel would have whatever lag remaining from the aerial + two more frames. Really, I think Falcon's the only one who knows for sure.

 

[felipe_9595]

yeah we have to ask to falcon

And looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool comboing Lvl 9 cpus is almsot impossible without knowing frame data, everyone knows about how sick is the powershielding of the cpus.

 

[dettadeus]

Doesn't change the fact that a CPU isn't a human. Reaction time isn't everything. Most computers will attempt to shield and laterally approach a Fox that's spamming lasers rather than jumping over them. Just one example.

And I was talking about the modified stage textures/image files. As evidenced by the second sentence that you apparently didn't read.

 

[felipe_9595]

yeah, didnt read it XDDDDDD

yeah, reaction is not everything, but a human cant escape from my comboes either, the only way that they can escape is by powershielding

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEsdPuosyd4

Just making sure it is going to be on last page XD

 

[ZeldaFanUltima]

Add Sora, and Riku for Kingdom Hearts Characters.
Ichigo, Renji, and Ulquiorra for Bleach.
Lloyd and Kratos for Tales of Symphonia.
Ghirahim as the last of Zelda.
And Your own Characters for Crusade.

For Modes, add an Adventure Mode, and Story Mode.
For Story, Organization XIII can be the main villians. Except for Axel, and Marluxia, as they help out during some point of the Story.

Also, can you PM me for how you like make the characters move, and stuff. I am trying to make my own game, and wondered if you can tell me how to do:
Star KO
Screen Crash
CPU AI
Player AI,
and zoom in-zoom out functions. That would be the best help.

 

[felipe_9595]

NO.MORE.ANIME.CHARACTERS

the people doesnt know to read sigh...

 

[Jaklub]

Also, can you PM me for how you like make the characters move, and stuff. I am trying to make my own game, and wondered if you can tell me how to do:
Star KO
Screen Crash
CPU AI
Player AI,
and zoom in-zoom out functions. That would be the best help.

Star KO is a simple thing to do. Screen Crash - what? CPU AI and Player AI - I don't know what's the difference, but I'm sure devs would not tell you how they did AI. It's a thing you have to work on really hard. If you're asking about Star KO, you'd not understand anyway. Camera system, if I recall correctly, was based on an example. I think I saw that thing on Mario Fangame Galaxy.

 

[dettadeus]

OH LOOK, it's Graceless Assassin again. Lol. Learn to read before posting. The only character that makes sense that you suggested is Ghirahim.

Adventure Mode is a yes. Story Mode not so much (like, at all).

Obviously you haven't made any progress on this then, if you're asking how to make characters move.

 

[ZeldaFanUltima]

Actually, Ulquiorra is a 3rd Party Character. He landed on a Bleach game BEFORE getting on the anime. This was shared by Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez (Jaggerjack).

Revamp Mario's, Luigi's, and Link's sprites. And Phantom7, please make Child Link into Toon Link instead of that. If you want child Link, add Young Link's Sprites, not Toon Link's.

Who's this person you are talking about dettadeus?

 

[dettadeus]

And do you know how many 3rd party characters are on our roster right now? Too many. And if he originated in a game for an anime then that doesn't make much of a difference in the least.
Mario and Luigi are probably getting new sprites eventually. It's been on the list for a while. Link seems to be fine. You're the first person I know about to complain about Child/Toon Link.

And lol, playing dumb I see. You must remember this: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=303021

 

[ZeldaFanUltima]

MG has revamped Fox's Sprites, and more characters that you guys have, I am positive.

Anyone up onto adding Boss Challenge? Adventure Mode Bosses other than Giga Bowser, or something.

Character Speculation
-------------------------
Ghirahim
Young Link (The REAL ONE)
DeBlob
Sora
Riku
Mickey Mouse
Cloud
Black Mage
Insanity (My own character)

??? I don't understand what you are getting at. I never seen this yet. Sorry, you got me confused with someone else.

 

[ensane]

Young Link was a typo. It will be changed to Toon Link next update.

To be fair, Det, how do you know it's the same person?

 

[dettadeus]

MG has revamped Fox's Sprites, and more characters that you guys have, I am positive.

Anyone up onto adding Boss Challenge? Adventure Mode Bosses other than Giga Bowser, or something.

Character Speculation
-------------------------
Ghirahim
Young Link (The REAL ONE)
DeBlob
Sora
Riku
Mickey Mouse
Cloud
Black Mage
Insanity (My own character)

In order:
Don't know what you're talking about.
Boss Challenge would be interesting if there were bosses to challenge.
Characters:
I think he might actually be on the roster.
Clone so no.
No.
Probably not.
Don't know who this is.
LOLWUT 4th party no.
Never been on a Nintendo system outside of Kingdom Hearts so no.
I think he's on the roster.
If FOURTH PARTY characters are a no, what makes you think ORIGINAL characters are even VIABLE?

Also, made any progress on that 3DS Smash game that you're selling for 30 bucks?

EDIT@Ensane: I've been following all his topics. He's been doing the exact same sorts of things. Check a couple of his threads in this board and then look at the threads made by Graceful Assassin.

 

[felipe_9595]

Okay, lets talk about my combo video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEsdPuosyd4

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Zelda, go to a GM boards for help, i dont think you are getting an awnser here

 

[dettadeus]

And Felipe, that's seriously enough. If nobody's talking about it then it means nobody cares. Stop putting it on every single page.

 

[ensane]

Has anyone posted about the upcoming updates here?

 

[dettadeus]

Well, I don't think anyone's kept track, but I guess I'll summarize:
NEW STUFF IN 0.7:
Characters: Gooey, Mr. Game&Watch, Donkey Kong.
Stages: Fourside
Modes: Classic
General physics changes, added Melee air dodge system (optional).
Lots of little character tweaks.

 

[felipe_9595]

Lots of bugfix also, yoshi will be playable xDD



asdf

 

[ensane]

I still say he already is, just don't do weird crap. XD

Felipe, I'm close to calling a mod for spamming.

 

[felipe_9595]

Lulz ok, it was only a joke xDDDD

Asdf

jkjk xD

 

[dettadeus]

Lots of bugfix also, yoshi will be playable xDD

That fits into the "lots of little character tweaks" section.
EDIT NINJA'D
That's not a bad idea, Ensane. Felipe, just because I, Nights or Werekill can't infract you for posting that combo video here doesn't mean you can spam it.

 

[felipe_9595]

LoL

I hope falcon includes Yoshi island 64 and Fighting polygon team, theya re ready

 

[ensane]

I thought the team was already done, and it was race to the finish they were working on. Where's YI 64? I haven't seen that one.

 

[ZeldaFanUltima]

Young Link will not be a clone character, I can make him into an original.
Go to KH Wiki for Riku and the levels I am thinking of for Adventure Mode.
Insanity is going to be a Crusade Original Character.

Anyone Create the Crusade Wiki yet?

Adventure Mode Stages:
Mushroom Kingdom (Goombas, Gombas, Koopas, Yoshi x10)
Peach's Castle (Mario/Luigi, Peach, and Bowser)
Hyrule (ReDeads, Octoroks, Wall Masters, Skulltulas, Mini-Boss: Dark Nut, Boss: Gohma)
Hyrule Castle (Link, Zelda, Ganondorf)
Dreamland (Kirby x30, Giant Kirby)
Twilight Town (Shadow Heartless, Dusk Nobodies, Boss: Duel-Wield Roxas)
The World That Never Was (Bosses: Xigbar, Luxord, Saix, Axel, Xemnas)
Kongo Jungle (DK x2)
Brambles (Giant DK)
Planet Zebes (Samus)
Asteroid Field (Dark Samus, Boss: Ridley)
Final Destination SSBB (Bosses: Marluxia, Vexen, Demyx, Xaldin, Larxene, Zexion, Lexaeus)
Final Destination Crusade (Mini-Boss: Hydralfos (Go to Zelda Wiki), Boss: Giga Bowser)
Battlefield (Final Boss: Angel of Death (Go to KH Wiki) Marluxia)

 

[felipe_9595]

LOL young link is not a clone, EVERYTHING is different

@ensane

 

[ZeldaFanUltima]

LOL young link is not a clone, EVERYTHING is different

@ensane

Thanks sucker!

 

[felipe_9595]

LoooooL

How can you use them if you dont even have an engine XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

 

[ensane]

Lol @ZeldaFan

@Felipe: I like the 2nd one (can't recall if there's a name), maybe just a little less texture on the main stage and platforms so that the character sprites don't look like they're photoshopped on.

As for YI the perspective seems a bit off, especially on the top platform. Unless you figured out dynamic camera angles? XD Also, I'd tone down the sharpness of the edges, personally. I do like them overall, though.

also @ZeldaFan: http://crusade.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._Crusade
Revers Ninja'd? >_<

 

[dettadeus]

Young Link will not be a clone character, I can make him into an original.
Go to KH Wiki for Riku and the levels I am thinking of for Adventure Mode.
Insanity is going to be a Crusade Original Character.

Anyone Create the Crusade Wiki yet?

Adventure Mode Stages:
Mushroom Kingdom (Goombas, Gombas, Koopas, Yoshi x10)
Peach's Castle (Mario/Luigi, Peach, and Bowser)
Hyrule (ReDeads, Octoroks, Wall Masters, Skulltulas, Mini-Boss: Dark Nut, Boss: Gohma)
Hyrule Castle (Link, Zelda, Ganondorf)
Dreamland (Kirby x30, Giant Kirby)
Twilight Town (Shadow Heartless, Dusk Nobodies, Boss: Duel-Wield Roxas)
The World That Never Was (Bosses: Xigbar, Luxord, Saix, Axel, Xemnas)
Kongo Jungle (DK x2)
Brambles (Giant DK)
Planet Zebes (Samus)
Asteroid Field (Dark Samus, Boss: Ridley)
Final Destination SSBB (Bosses: Marluxia, Vexen, Demyx, Xaldin, Larxene, Zexion, Lexaeus)
Final Destination Crusade (Mini-Boss: Hydralfos (Go to Zelda Wiki), Boss: Giga Bowser)
Battlefield (Final Boss: Angel of Death (Go to KH Wiki) Marluxia)

http://www.crusade.wikia.com
For the last time, there will be NO original characters. This isn't Smash Flash 1, ya know. >_> (no offense to SSF fans or the game itself, just using it as an example)

Thanks sucker!

You REALLY don't know the definition of "Use with permission", do you? You can actually be sued for using resources without asking.

 

[ZeldaFanUltima]

I will give big credit to ya Felipe, I will only use them for demos, and then I will make my own, then replace them, okay, so think of these as, I dunno, examples for when I get my game right.

 

[dettadeus]

Credit =/= Permission.

Who votes we get back on topic? I vote we get back on topic.
*goes and finds a moderator*

 

[ensane]

Seconded.

On another note, does Werekill remember that BR for 0.7, or is it a forgotten note at this point?

 

[dettadeus]

In news related to that, I'm actually planning on redoing applications when 0.7 releases. It's got a ton of changes, so I think it'll be best to wait.

I might talk to Werekill about working on getting the BR set up and organized while he makes the apps, since all there is right now is a board with nothing in it.

 

[ZeldaFanUltima]

AI could get some improvements. Vote: Yes/No
Crusade should be played like SSF2, on the internet. Vote: Yes/No
Improvement for certain Characters. Vote: Yes/No

 

[ensane]

AI: yes
Online: not possible atm.
Characters: doesn't stop happening

@Det: more apps? I spent 2 or 3 days on the last one. T_T

 

[dettadeus]

AI is constantly being improved. Not to mention the level 10 and 11 AI that haunts the higher difficulties of Classic mode.
Played on the internet? Heck no. There's a reason SSF2 can be downloaded as well. Why would you want it to require internet? How will I play on the bus or at school?
Character improvements are always being discussed.

@Ensane: I love live topics. :D They are ninja-proof.
Online as in, you play it on a website instead of directly on the computer. Not online connectivity, which is still on the list.
And yeah, we have to redo our applications. >_>