Super Smash Bros. Advance

[Smash0holic]

Hi guys,I'm making a Fan Game called Super Smash Bros. Advance.I called it that cuz it's supposed to look like if SSBB came out for the GBA.Here's the Forum Link.
http://ssba.motionforum.net/forum.htm

I'm using a Program called Scratch 1.4 to make it.If someone knows where to download Game Maker 7 and if someone can teach me how to make a Fighting Game with GM7 I can use GM7 to make it instead,since Scratch 1.4 can make things buggy.I hope to have it done maybe in a Few Months or maybe at the end of the year.

 

[pokelover980]

Scratch 1.4

I hate to say it, but I stopped reading here and started to chuckle a bit. You can't really make anything with scratch other than some weird basic programs, so I'll tell you now you won't be able to accomplish this with Scratch.

 

[Smash0holic]

I hate to say it, but I stopped reading here and started to chuckle a bit. You can't really make anything with scratch other than some weird basic programs, so I'll tell you now you won't be able to accomplish this with Scratch.

That just means I'll need GM7 then.

 

[4nace]

http://wiki.yoyogames.com/index.php/Old_Game_Maker_Versions

Game Maker isn't too rough for this, but I would make sure you design a few simple games before tackling a smash brothers game. If you are going to have more than 2 characters then you want to make sure your code is as re-usable as possible. It will take you a few attempts to get that right.

Good luck.

-4nace

 

[Smash0holic]

http://wiki.yoyogames.com/index.php/Old_Game_Maker_Versions

Game Maker isn't too rough for this, but I would make sure you design a few simple games before tackling a smash brothers game. If you are going to have more than 2 characters then you want to make sure your code is as re-usable as possible. It will take you a few attempts to get that right.

Good luck.

-4nace

Ok thanks.
EDIT:Ok it looks like I can't do much,cuz I can't even tell wtf I'm doing.On Scratch it actually showed you what you were doing by having a preview at the side.I'm gonna need someone to teach me how to make a game.

 

[Smash0holic]

Ok if anybody would like to see what the graphics are planned to be like,here's a few Sprites for the Game.

 

[Dark_Ermac]

Were those sprites made or stolen?

I can judge the fate of this game from your answer.

 

[Jaklub]

Making something such complicated as SSB clone is a bad choice for a first project in GM.
You need serious practice before this and the fact you couldn't find GM7 doesn't bode well.

@up: SSBC and SSF2 both use ripped sprites, yet they're really good. M&LRPG style sucks though and I'm happy neither SSBC nor SSF2 used these.

 

[dirtboy345]

those sprites are stolen im sorry but you don't seem ready so i guess this is probably gonna get locked

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Yo', I'ma happy for ya' and all, and I'ma gonna let you finish,
but this is gonna be the best Smash Bros. fan game OF ALL TIME!

 

[Smash0holic]

Were those sprites made or stolen?

I can judge the fate of this game from your answer.

Not stolen,I was saying thats what all the sprites are planned to look like,GBA Style,but I'm making brawl recolors and all.

 

[Claire Diviner]

It all looks good on paper, but if this is your first attempt, then you've quite the hurdle.

I suggest you either gain experience with the program(s), or find a friend or someone you know who is program savvy to help you out.

Regardless, I hope the project becomes a success.

 

[shadowtroop]

Listen, I've been at the smash community (/lurk) for 3 years. I have seen MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY projects like this (even further in progress) that never get off the ground. Especially if you've never even used game maker.

I'm sorry to shoot your cloud to the ground, but no.

 

[Krystedez]

Just try to familiarize yourself in the programs your interested in and get the opinion of others on what program you should ultimately use.

I suggest making something from the ground up using a programming language rather than a WYSWYG (what you see is what you get) program, and then get support from others on the graphics end.

Also, I won't shoot your cloud down, mario bro. Get at it if you're really ready to spend that kind of time, and don't be afraid to look on game-making forums and such where you can get help. Shoot, you might even be able to figure out how to make your own homebrew version of it for the DS, that'd be tight. But you have to work hard and study this type of material. That's why I suggested programming languages...

I'm not too familiar with the homebrew scene though other than I don't see enough games like THIS, so I would ultimately tell you to study how to do that. Try gbatemp or other homebrew forums.

 

[GP&B]

if someone can teach me how to make a Fighting Game with GM7

Yeah, Smash is definitely way too ambitious of a task here. If you want to make anything remotely near a decent Smash game, you have to understand hundreds of different things about the engine itself; it's surprisingly complicated when you look into it and forgetting numerous factors can really isolate it from feeling like a natural clone.

 

[Dark_Ermac]

@up: SSBC and SSF2 both use ripped sprites, yet they're really good.

The SSF2 sprites are either made from scratch specifically for the game or are heavily edited versions of existing sprites, with a couple exceptions.

 

[Jaklub]

with a couple exceptions.

SSF2 fans/devs get offended by nothing.

 

[Smash0holic]

ok look everybody,i understand it will take a lot fo practice and all to make a fighting game with GM7,but I can just use scratch 1.4,and pokelover don't say I can't,cuz you CAN make games using scratch,my friend had recently made a game using scratch and it was successful.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

ok look everybody,i understand it will take a lot fo practice and all to make a fighting game with GM7,but I can just use scratch 1.4,and pokelover don't say I can't,cuz you CAN make games using scratch,my friend had recently made a game using scratch and it was successful.

Link to successful game that your friend made?

You can't make **** with Scratch. It is a terrible program.

 

[Smash0holic]

Link to successful game that your friend made?

You can't make **** with Scratch. It is an awesome program.

You can make **** with scratch,and http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/olivora/1130136

you have to download it since it is so big and it is slow online

 

[Grim Tuesday]

That game is decent enough, but you need to ask yourself: Why should my game be played instead of the actual Nintendo ones?

If that is the best Scratch has to offer (which I assume it is), then I see no reason to even play that game when I could be playing the much better official games.

 

[Dantarion]

I hate that people insist on making games using game maker style programs instead of learning any kind of skill like programming. While Game Maker can help you make something "cool" in a week, it won't teach you tamazing skills like learning how to code in C and making a game using SDL would

 

[Grim Tuesday]

I hate that people insist on making games using game maker style programs instead of learning any kind of skill like programming. While Game Maker can help you make something "cool" in a week, it won't teach you tamazing skills like learning how to code in C and making a game using SDL would

Have you even used Game Maker Dant? It isn't just drag and drop, it has it's own coding language.

And look at the decent games on this website and tell me they were made as something "cool in a week": http://www.yoyogames.com/

 

[Smash0holic]

That game is decent enough, but you need to ask yourself: Why should my game be played instead of the actual Nintendo ones?

If that is the best Scratch has to offer (which I assume it is), then I see no reason to even play that game when I could be playing the much better official games.

ever heard of a fan game "genius?"

 

[Jaklub]

You know, fan games are usually made to have something original, special, good. To attract a player from the original games at least for a while.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

ever heard of a fan game "genius?"

As in "Have you ever heard of a fan game called 'Genius'?"

or

"Have you ever heard of a fan game genius?" (implying that you are a fangame genius)

If it is the former, no I haven't, and a google search yielded no results.

If it is the latter...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

 

[GP&B]

I hate that people insist on making games using game maker style programs instead of learning any kind of skill like programming. While Game Maker can help you make something "cool" in a week, it won't teach you tamazing skills like learning how to code in C and making a game using SDL would

Technically speaking, GM's language (GML) is built off of Delphi, a close cousin of C++ (without the manual compiling process) so there are some direct similarities but the syntax is much more lenient (not necessarily a good thing). The problems with GML are interpretation instead of proper compiling like C++ so it's usually a good idea to get out of GML and jump into C++ whenever you can.

 

[Smash0holic]

As in "Have you ever heard of a fan game called 'Genius'?"

or

"Have you ever heard of a fan game genius?" (implying that you are a fangame genius)

If it is the former, no I haven't, and a google search yielded no results.

If it is the latter...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

ever heard of SARCASM?!?

 

[Segtendo]

This thread is going nowhere fast.

 

[TL?]

There's a reason that games like smash take years to develop. You can't know absolutely NOTHING about programming or animation and expect to just jump in to GM7 and have a full working game.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

ever heard of SARCASM?!?

No... Who's sarcasm?
It doesn't work on the internet though, the level of stupidity is too high.

I'm leaving this thread, someone please lock it.
I will personally buy you the full premium account if you get this game done.

Which won't happen.

Cause you can't make a complicated fan-game straight away with no experience or skill.

Bye.

 

[Smash0holic]

No... Who's sarcasm?
It doesn't work on the internet though, the level of stupidity is too high.

I'm leaving this thread, someone please lock it.
I will personally buy you the full premium account if you get this game done.

Which won't happen.

Cause you can't make a complicated fan-game straight away with no experience or skill.

Bye.

I have Experience and Skill,your the one who needs to get a warning for being an ***.

 

[pokelover980]

I have Experience and Skill,your the one who needs to get a warning for being an ***.

You have no knowledge of Game Maker, so you therefore have no experience and skill. We tried being plain, simple and nice at first, but your refusal to listen to anything we say has driven us to make our posts sound more rude. However, there is no intention of being an ***, and it's your fault for reading our posts that way.

 

[Smash0holic]

You have no knowledge of Game Maker, so you therefore have no experience and skill. We tried being plain, simple and nice at first, but your refusal to listen to anything we say has driven us to make our posts sound more rude. However, there is no intention of being an ***, and it's your fault for reading our posts that way.

It's your Fault for misreading me,what I meant was I have experience and skill with Scratch,so either stop being and *** too,or get out.

 

[dirtboy345]

honestly comments like that only make more people angry

 

[Smash0holic]

i dont care,and pokelover980,you werent nice at all at first,everyone went ape**** just becuz i said i would make it with scratch,so everyone,instead of going ape**** about what im gonna use to make the game,why cant we just discuss and all about the game?thats all i wanted at the start.

 

[dirtboy345]

well it's like you basically went out saying you don't know and then when people said stuff you got a little mad then they got mad then you say you don't care

 

[Smash0holic]

well it's like you basically went out saying you don't know and then when people said stuff you got a little mad then they got mad then you say you don't care

Firt of all,I DID know,and read the posts again,they said stuff like I have no skill or experience,or I couldnt use scratch to use the game,even though i can.

 

[Smash0holic]

like i said all i want is to just discuss the game and all,but everyones going ape****

 

[pokelover980]

i dont care,and pokelover980,you werent nice at all at first,everyone went ape**** just becuz i said i would make it with scratch,so everyone,instead of going ape**** about what im gonna use to make the game,why cant we just discuss and all about the game?thats all i wanted at the start.

I was pretty nice at first, but I will admit my first post did sound a tad bit rude, but it was the honest truth.