Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[Salty the SLUG]

Come'on everybody! Like that shi-! Like it like you've never liked something before!

 

[Big-Cat]

Girls, girls. You're both horrible, dried up *******.

It's just a fact Brawlies aren't as smart. They aren't as technical, strategic, or even analytically as Melee or Smash 64 players, and they are lacking in the knowledge and experience department because most of them have played competitively for 2-4 years, versus like 8 years. And if we want to get real freaking serious, Brawl is a dying competitive game, whereas Melee is a thriving one.

You! Time may equal experience, but it does not determine the quality of said experience.

As an anecdote, I played SF4 for 3 years, from 2009 to 2012. However, despite my skills, I was not very efficient at some of the more important mid range fighting for the longest time nor did I understand some of the more intricate details like pressure and breaking an opponent's rhythm. However, once I started playing Tekken Tag 2, my understanding of fundamentals was completely renovated. I had a much stronger understanding for the fundamentals of fighting games and all that good stuff. I learned more in six months of Tekken than I did in three years of SF4. The skills even transferred over back to SF4, just to show it wasn't a fluke.

I think you are right to some extent when comparing Brawl to other Smash players, but don't think time and knowledge/experience are proportionally related.

On a national level you need to have the reverse Brawl method; instead of starting with a bunch of stupid stages legal, let's ban all of the question marks.

This is an interesting way of going about things. This way, instead of proving to ban something, you're vying to legalize it which may or may not be easier.

You're an idiot, so I don't have to listen to you. People who play Melee aren't as smart. They lack the mental capacity to deal with a game that takes lots of psychological focus, and can't even adapt to different physics. They can't and have never analysed stages as much as Brawl players have and lack experience doing so. And if we want to get real freaking serious, Brawl streams and tournaments tend to still have strong turnouts and viewers in streams just like Melee.

And you. Do you have any idea what the heck you're talking about? Melee is arguably way more psychologically intensive. Do you think it's easy to just do things like pressure, mind game edgeguarding, etc. at Melee's pace? You have to be fast and ready to commit at a moment's notice.

As for calling them out on not adapting, Melee players simply did not enjoy the changes made for Brawl. It's not refusing to adapt, they just didn't like it. As for me, I just went on to other fighting games instead.

On a national level, you need to use the Brawl method instead of cutting out parts of the game without real knowledge of them possibly stripping the game of depth, strategy, and removing something that never should have been banned. Do not ban until game breaking.

Except how do you define what is and isn't game breaking? The broadest definition would be that a game breaker is anything that causes the game to crash. A simple criteria for banning would be things like hazards that get in the way and are in no way predictable, stage elements that kill the flow of the match (Wario Ware), etc.

 

[TumblrFamous]

I would if my hands would let me.

> I have a great imagination
> My family says I'm funny
> My AP History teacher called me Articulate
> My hands have ginormous welts on them, sweat too much, and shake like a dog.

Perhaps maybe after a year of art class, then maybe I'll start one?

What a coincidence! My AP History teacher called me a heathen!

Regardless, I was his favorite.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

If I can at least get 15 likes on this, I WILL do a Nuzlocke challenge, and you all decide the game / starter / gender / name.

I say we make him name his female protagonist Impa.

 

[Fastblade5035]

If I can at least get 15 likes on this, I WILL do a Nuzlocke challenge, and you all decide the game / starter / gender / name.

Pokemon FireRed, Bulbasaur (I will kill you if it dies), female, Muscle Man.

 

[Oasis_S]

Hey! At least he responded.

More than can be said about some maid.

Oh, right, yes, happy birthday Swamp.

 

[TumblrFamous]

I say we make him name his female protagonist Impa.

It will be Pokemon FireRed, and her rival's name will be Sheik.

 

[Salty the SLUG]

What a coincidence! My AP History teacher called me a heathen!

Regardless, I was his favorite.

My AP history teacher I guess liked me, but I think its because I was the only one who didn't pester her (little brats...). Oh well, right now I'm away from - THEM.

 

[Fastblade5035]

It will be Pokemon FireRed, and her rival's name will be Sheik.

No, the rivals name will be Impa. Diddy will be Sheik.

 

[Salty the SLUG]

If I can at least get 15 likes on this, I WILL do a Nuzlocke challenge, and you all decide the game / starter / gender / name.

Emerald / Mudkip / whatever gender / Kipper

 

[TumblrFamous]

No, the rivals name will be Impa. Diddy will be Sheik.

So then in the end, Sheik will defeat Impa? You're twisted.

Let's do it.

 

[OcarinaOfDoom]

All of his Pokemon should be nicknamed Sheik.

 

[Fastblade5035]

All of his Pokemon should be nicknamed Sheik.

Ilovesheik
Sheik>impa
impasucks
Sheikismygod
Impaisawhore
Diddy

 

[LiteralGrill]

Stuff

The major point of my post was to through out tons on fluff some of which makes no sense, but has been argued with before, no kidding there's stuff in there that's arguable, it was the point!

It was kinda made to mirror the post I quoted where the same kinda thing was done.

 

[Diddy Kong]

7 more likes and your wishes may come true.

To help the cause, my orignal post:

If I can at least get 15 likes on this, I WILL do a Nuzlocke challenge, and you all decide the game / starter / gender / name.

 

[Deleted member]

YOUR MOM.

We're sure off to a wonderful start...

Are you drawing a comic for it?

That's how you TRULY do a nuzlocke

I really liked this one I read that was by this dude named Hale and his run of Emerald version, I should do something like that... Someday...

It's just Nuzlockes are torture, So... Much.... Grinding...

If I can at least get 15 likes on this, I WILL do a Nuzlocke challenge, and you all decide the game / starter / gender / name.

You *****.

gb2 facebook, hahahaha

 

[Big-Cat]

The major point of my post was to through out tons on fluff some of which makes no sense, but has been argued with before, no kidding there's stuff in there that's arguable, it was the point!

It was kinda made to mirror the post I quoted where the same kinda thing was done.

So why not argue it then?

And happy birthday, Swamps. May zombies bring you plenty of presents.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

If I can at least get 15 likes on this, I WILL do a Nuzlocke challenge, and you all decide the game / starter / gender / name.

Pearl/Pinplup/Female/Impa

This debate isn't gonna be easy...

 

[LiteralGrill]

So why not argue it then?

Mostly because just plain insulting was becoming the defense against me, why argu eto that and to a deaf ear?

 

[Fastblade5035]

Guys, let's put Diddy through hell.
Heartgold, Chikorita, Female, Sheik.

 

[OcarinaOfDoom]

If I can at least get 15 likes on this, I WILL do a Nuzlocke challenge, and you all decide the game / starter / gender / name.

12 likes... 3 more to go!

 

[Salty the SLUG]

Wait, Diddy, what rules are you going to apply to your game? (I can give you some)

 

[Big-Cat]

Mostly because just plain insulting was becoming the defense against me, why argu eto that and to a deaf ear?

Because I'm a glutton for fights.

Come on, are you that scared of being insulted?

 

[Fastblade5035]

Wait, Diddy, what rules are you going to apply to your game? (I can give you some)

Give him the most hardcore, unfair, broken rules possible.

 

[Arcadenik]

The layout isn't the issue, but what about predicting them? Spear Pillar's hazards are completely randomized.

(I may have misunderstood your post, so please excuse me if I made another stupid mistake while I'm tired)

The only hazards we could predict are where the beams would shoot. There are visual cues (not sure about audio cues since I am deaf). The rest are random.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Guys, let's put Diddy through hell.
Heartgold, Chikorita, Female, Sheik.

HeartGold, SoulSilver, Black, Black 2, White, White 2, Diamond, Pearl and ... the Ghiratina game aren't doable for me. No DS emulator.

Only can play:
Red, Blue, Yellow, Gold, Silver, Crystal, Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, FireRed, LeafGreen.

Personally, I'd rather play Emerald or FireRed / LeafGreen anyway.

Wait, Diddy, what rules are you going to apply to your game? (I can give you some)

Not sure. Just the standard rules I think? Can only catch one Pokémon in a Area, defeat in battle = death. Any other major rules?

3 more likes btw people!

 

[LiteralGrill]

Because I'm a glutton for fights.

Come on, are you that scared of being insulted?

I don't care about being insulted, I care that the only argument against me was ad hominem, which isn't really an argument at all. By that point, there isn't a conversation to be had, the other guy can only insult you or others? You have them beat.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Give him the most hardcore, unfair, broken rules possible.

no healing items, no pokecenters, pokeballs only

 

[OcarinaOfDoom]

HeartGold, SoulSilver, Black, Black 2, White, White 2, Diamond, Pearl and ... the Ghiratina game aren't doable for me. No DS emulator.

Only can play:
Red, Blue, Yellow, Gold, Silver, Crystal, Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, FireRed, LeafGreen.

Personally, I'd rather play Emerald or FireRed / LeafGreen anyway.

Would you play a hacked GBA rom?

 

[Oasis_S]

Because I'm a glutton for fights.

Come on, are you that scared of being insulted?

Aren't you the guy that always asks why people have to be so rude.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

If I can at least get 15 likes on this, I WILL do a Nuzlocke challenge, and you all decide the game / starter / gender / name.

Ok this seems like a good time to stop lurking. I want to see this happen

 

[Big-Cat]

Aren't you the guy that always asks why people have to be so rude.

You do have a point. However, you gotta stand your ground and not be afraid to call out BS.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Kuma and Capps, can you two not continue your argument?

Can't we all just set that aside and give Diddy likes so we can have him do a Nuzlocke challenge with the rules at our mercry?

 

[Salty the SLUG]

If I can at least get 15 likes on this, I WILL do a Nuzlocke challenge, and you all decide the game / starter / gender / name.

Diddy, here are the rules you must use:

1. Name each Poke'mon you catch
2. If a Pokemon faints, it is dead. RELEASE IT.
3. Catch the first Pokemon you see in each zone. You cannot skip a zone's Pokemon.
4. Once a Pokemon is caught in a zone, no other Pokemon may be caught in that zone.
5. No catching the same Pokemon twice.
6. No legendaries - you may only kill them.
7. No HM slaves.

Any others, guys?

 

[OcarinaOfDoom]

Diddy, here are the rules you must use:

1. Name each Poke'mon you catch
2. If a Pokemon faints, it is dead. RELEASE IT.
3. Catch the first Pokemon you see in each zone. You cannot skip a zone's Pokemon.
4. Once a Pokemon is caught in a zone, no other Pokemon may be caught in that zone.
5. No catching the same Pokemon twice.
6. No legendaries - you may only kill them.

Any others, guys?

NO POKECENTERS

 

[Fastblade5035]

I got the rules.

-normal Nuzlocke rules still apply
-No grinding
-No HM slaves
-No healing items
-one pokecenter use per center
-no pokemarts
-Pokeballs only
-cannot go back to previous routes unless it is scripted/mandatory
-if any of your pokemon is 5 levels below the gym leaders strongest, you can't use it.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Would you play a hacked GBA rom?

Most likely not. As I'm not quite familiar with hacked games, and rather make the playthrough easily accesable by playing a familar game to all. I'm thinking I wanna do FireRed or LeafGreen the most. Mostly cause Gen 1 is the most easily regonized, it features the starter Pokémon characters we had in Brawl, and well, I like the game the most I think

If I can at least get 15 likes on this, I WILL do a Nuzlocke challenge, and you all decide the game / starter / gender / name.

2 more and we done peeps!

 

[Big-Cat]

Kuma and Capps, can you two not continue your argument?

Can't we all just set that aside and give Diddy likes so we can have him do a Nuzlocke challenge with the rules at our mercry?

No way. I'm all hyped up.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Diddy, here are the rules you must use:

1. Name each Poke'mon you catch
2. If a Pokemon faints, it is dead. RELEASE IT.
3. Catch the first Pokemon you see in each zone. You cannot skip a zone's Pokemon.
4. Once a Pokemon is caught in a zone, no other Pokemon may be caught in that zone.
5. No catching the same Pokemon twice.
6. No legendaries - you may only kill them.

Any others, guys?

So, what if the first pokemon that appears in a zone is the same pokemon. does that mean you can catch the second pokemon in that zone or you can't catch ANY pokemon in that zone?

 

[Salty the SLUG]

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