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Super Moonwalk

Mista Sinista

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Don't know if this is known already or not, but if you get caped by Doc (and I'm guessing Mario too) while doing the moonwalk, you'll go insanely far.

Not very useful but it's slick as hell.

EDIT - So thanks to my good pal Vidjo, he told me that the moonwalk can cover about 1/3 of Final Destination with the bunny hood. So maybe if you cape the bunny hood moonwalk...
 

AngeloBangelo

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In 2v2's it can be a nice taunt after you kill someone if your team is Falcon and Doc/Mario. I didn't know this, though. Kind of cool. Not particularly useful though, like you said. Still good to know. :)
 

Vall3y

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hmm you smash the stick to one direction, to start the initial dash animation, then move it in a half circle motion downwards to the back

i didnt know that .. sounds cool =p
 

AngeloBangelo

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Dash, and do a halfcircle backwards with the control stick as soon as you can and as fast as you can. Hold backwards for a moment.
 

Sars_Pirate

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Is anyone else's moonwalk as exagerated as SilentSpectre's or do you only go a little distance with it?
 

Mista Sinista

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Sometimes I get them like SS but not most of the time. I need to work on it a lil' bit, I'm just going too slow.
 

yes!

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god, seeing SS do it in person is amazing. in the recent champ combo yayuhhhz edition, i noticed that he likes to hit the person offstage, moonwalk quite a ways backwards towards the ledge and drops off for an edgehog/edgeguard. it's so sexy (~_~) as hard as i try, i can't seem to even do a dinky moonwalk though...my falcon keeps turning around >.>
 

that 1 guy

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Every time I moonwalk it is by accident. I have a question though, is moonwalking something that I should actually learn for a quick edgehog or is the wavedash or short hop always better? I think the moonwalk can actually be kinda useful because people aren't used to seeing it a whole lot so it might mess people up. Those are just my thoughts though.
 

AngeloBangelo

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There has been a discussion on this already. It's been confirmed that moonwalking is pretty much useless except for rare situations.
 

Mr Kain

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It's easy.. You just need the timing right. 3/4 of the time should be at the half-circle to get a full moonwalk
 

actionlen

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Sorry for the dubble posting I hate myself.
Uhmm well to make this post usefull I will tell you sometime about....
Oh just forget it.
Sorry for dubble posting
 

Sytar

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The reason your moonwalks are dinky are because you're not doing it right. Everyone is telling you the wrong way. You're not supposed to do a 180 degree semi-circle with the joystick; it's supposed to be a 200 degree semi-circle. When people leave me alone I can get super exaggerated moonwalks, but in the heat of battle I seem to falter. Credit to G-regulate for the 200 degree circle.
 

audreyh

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why the 200-degree?

theory: dash, crouch cancel immediately, hold back.

also, quite a few people do the moonwalk in vids now lol

lunin and synikal have hot ones but they do it constantly in match
 

Sytar

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The reason for the 200-degree? It works, and it works well.
The difference is large and apparent. Just try it.

Besides, G-regulate said so, and he's "decent" with falcon. :-P
 

audreyh

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so does that mean the extra 20 degrees is in the beginning of the semi circle or at the end of it.

ie, if ur moonwalking to the left, you start by dashing horizontally right, then half-moon to the left past the horizontal point by 20 deg?
 

g-regulate

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200 degree what in the what now? i dont remember saying that. but whatev. i dont do it much, cause it has no uses other than to look cool... which is what im all about... so ill just do it random times to gratify myself and show that i can :) .i just press dash, down, and hold back all in one sweeping motion. piece o pie
 

Sytar

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My bad, a misattribution.
It was Mista Sinista who said that.

Steps: Do the dash animation. Dash in the opposite direction and sweep the control stick in a 180 degree semicircle in the direction that you did the first dash animation. Tack 20 degrees more onto the end, and it is more effective.
 

audreyh

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g-reg dont you think it opens up more opportunities for effective edgeguarding? (bair and uair have like 3 times more range) rather than just knee/uair/utilt/short bair.

also it allows for quicker edgehogging from like the middle of the stage.
 

g-regulate

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audreyh said:
g-reg dont you think it opens up more opportunities for effective edgeguarding? (bair and uair have like 3 times more range) rather than just knee/uair/utilt/short bair.

also it allows for quicker edgehogging from like the middle of the stage.

um i wouldnt say its the best option, but the "silentspectre" is still tight looking nonetheless

and no it doesnt really allow a quicker edgehog, you can just run up to the edge, and waveslide off
 

audreyh

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but you've gota turn around. guess you could run to the edge, turn around and wavedash off, but i find that hard to believe its faster than jumping from the middle of the stage.

ie SS vs trevyn on FoD. or you can see that clip in hylian lord's guide to moonwalking vid

trevyn accidentaly falls off SS is there in a second
 

g-regulate

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i just run right to the edge, dashdance an inch and wd off. probably faster than turning around and moonwalking to the edge.
 

MaskedMarth

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is this caused by cfalcon trying to dash backwards while in the middle of trying to get into a crouch?

sorry if that's unclear. i guess i mean, why exactly does the rotation of the control stick cause falcon to dash backwards while facing forwards?
 

FunkDocOH

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Crouching stops him from going forward, the holding back makes him go backwards, and dashing makes him look like he's still moving forward. Hopefully that cleared it up?
 

whiteboyninja

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ive explained in extreme depth how to moonwalk in another post asking how to moonwalk. i dont have the link but a search should find it pretty quick.

anyway, the trick to being able to do it as quick as silenspectre does it (and i know what im talking about because he's the one who taught me how to do it) is as was said earlier the "200 degree 180". i guess the trick is when you do the half circle back its not quite a circle...its more of an ellipse. meaning that you dont fully press the stick forward, and as you slide it back you push it further. itsvery easy to get a SS style moonwalk in super slow motion training. then speed it up a little and keep doing it until you can get it at normal speed. thats the trick.

the reason he moonwalks is to improve the mindgame of his edgeguarding and to improve them indgame of his dash dancing, or thats what it seems to me. it makes him more unpredictable. very few characters can get out and far as falcon and bair when he moonwalks
 

Sytar

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Yeah, that's what I do. It lets you do it faster if you don't jam against the edges, and you just kind of go a tiny bit around the side of the molding.
 

tubes

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I can moonwalk properly. Not as consistently as SS can but properly. The moonwalk guides in the stickies are all you need to learn it. Anyone whose having trouble gaining distance with it just isn't doing it fast enough.

Stop trying to explain how to moonwalk to people. link them to this
 

halcyon.days

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I can moonwalk properly. Not as consistently as SS can but properly. The moonwalk guides in the stickies are all you need to learn it. Anyone whose having trouble gaining distance with it just isn't doing it fast enough.

Stop trying to explain how to moonwalk to people. link them to this
The only thing that scar should change is that "Go to A" to start the dash. It should be changed to "Move the stick forward so you start the dash" since that way it makes the distance you have to travel from A -> B even less.
 

tubes

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The only thing that scar should change is that "Go to A" to start the dash. It should be changed to "Move the stick forward so you start the dash" since that way it makes the distance you have to travel from A -> B even less.
Not sure I follow you unless you mean its possible to dash without making the trademark clacking noises.
 

Proverbs

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The reason your moonwalks are dinky are because you're not doing it right. Everyone is telling you the wrong way. You're not supposed to do a 180 degree semi-circle with the joystick; it's supposed to be a 200 degree semi-circle. When people leave me alone I can get super exaggerated moonwalks, but in the heat of battle I seem to falter. Credit to G-regulate for the 200 degree circle.
Whoa, good info. Also, and this might seem pretty n00bish to mention, but I only mention it because no one told me: I was talking to Elen about learning to moonwalk and he informed me that the reason I wasn't getting much distance was because I was just trying to moonwalk from a standstill. You get more distance if you dashdance to moonwalk. Didn't know this and just wanted to pass on the info.
 

tubes

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Whoa, good info. Also, and this might seem pretty n00bish to mention, but I only mention it because no one told me: I was talking to Elen about learning to moonwalk and he informed me that the reason I wasn't getting much distance was because I was just trying to moonwalk from a standstill. You get more distance if you dashdance to moonwalk. Didn't know this and just wanted to pass on the info.
This is true but if your good enough at it then you can still get considerable distance from standstill.

also how the heck can you yump backwards as going forward,i know moonwalking is involved but everytime i do it just jumps regulary -_-
just gotta make sure you jump as your moving backwards to keep the momentum.
 

metashinryu

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thanks man i asked this because some guy did a tutorial about it on youtube and i didnt catch it,it was pissing me to see that guy jump like a flea o_o
 
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