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Byleth is interesting because they weren't added in advance to push their game like Corrin, but rather, to have a character from a game people were playing. It's still a bit of a promotion, but compared to Corrin and arguably Hero, they're not screaming "BUY OUR GAME" directly to your face.
Isaac: What kind of town is this, Fennekin? It looks so...flat?
— SonicLink125 ☀️ (@SonicLink125) September 11, 2020
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It is interesting, but Byleth's announcement still seemed like a promotional push to me. I know a decent number of people who were on the fence on whether or not to buy Three Houses, with Byleth's inclusion being what ultimately persuaded them to get it. Since Corrin received such intense backlash, Nintendo probably wanted to announce Byleth a bit later to make the promotion a bit less transparent.
Tbf Fates was already out in Japan before Corrin was added.
The Isaac train might slow down at points, but it never fully loses steam.
Golden Icarus
Welcome, fellow Adept to the House of the Golden Sun! If you wish to be added to the Isaac supporter list, ask
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!Absolutely! We will keep the steam going as long as we need to.
and every other character that were DLC was that they were chosen before their debut game were released worldwide and they were specifically cited to be in because of new games, which makes them come across as promotional unlike : who are also new characters, both debuting in the same year.I’ve already added him, but I am still going to repost the support list.
Absolutely! We will keep the steam going as long as we need to.
And soon, it will go into hyper overdrive. Can’t wait for that day!
The pass was decided well before his game released. They clearly were still supporting the game with DLC. That roadmap was clearly in place before Byleth was decided. This is just as blatant as Hero and Corrin. It was for the exact same goal.
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It was mostly trying to push Fire Emblem in the West, since over there it was on the edge of becoming a cash cow but they needed to keep the post-Awkening hype train going. Since Fates hadn't gotten out of Japan yet, there was more room for a push.
Sakurai did get to play early development versions of BotW and FE3H, but as far as we know he got nothing of the sort for XC2.
That, and the base roster was farther away from Rex than the DLC was for Byleth. The former had like two years in between, while the late only had a little over half a year.
1) I... don't think it counts as promotion if the character is just trying to sell Smash/the pass. That's the intent of every addition from a marketing standpoint. Sure they promote the product therein, but that's just how advertising generally works. The "promotional" characters are those added deliberately to direct attention to recent or upcoming releases other than Smash.
1) My point was that Terry and Joker are drawing people outside of the community into the community, and while Banjo does the same to a lesser extent, he ensures Smash fans, who already wanted Banjo, buy the pass. My overall point is that Nintendo only cares about how marketable these characters are. It's my counter to the notion that Smash is here to celebrate gaming history, or trying to get a rep from every developer like a lot of people want to believe. People want to think there's something more to it than marketing - I don't think there is.
What's interesting is Dawn Dawn was released close to Smash 4 development (and Sakurai chose two newcomers that had games released around the same year). Xenoblade did have a new game entry that would come out the next year but Little Mac's last game was 2009, while Dark Dawn was 2010 and Punch Out didn't see any new releases on 3DS or Wii U (but Golden Sun randomly got dropped in the Wii U virtual console a few months before Smash 4's release). And yet not only does Isaac not get a playable spot, he loses his assist trophy. I often think about that cause it feels like a double whammy for the game argument lol.
, and Fire Emblem Awakening was a recent success back in 2015 that saved the franchise. We didn’t get Akira Howard or the Ring Fit Trainee as the promotional DLC for Fighter Pass 1, but and Fire Emblem Heroes was one of Nintendo’s most profitable mobile game. Fire Emblem Warriors and Shadows of Valentia were also successful and all this was observable back in 2018. Therefore, both these characters would have been seen as “safer“ choices, and Nintendo isn’t about taking risks just because.
Glad to have you with us! And congrats on finishing the first Golden Sun. Make sure you keep that save data for whenever you can find a copy of Lost Age so you can transfer stuff over. Though speaking of, if you have a Wii U you could actually purchase Lost Age on the Virtual Console there. If not though, I wish you luck finding a copy.
and in somewhat content terms (if only due feeling purely lucky by this point, since I dunno if to discuss about possible newcomer candidates in terms of "sensibility" anymore post-November 2018 Direct after seeing likes of Piranha Plant and Joker) - I might be following on here mainly on the prospect of seeing this rumored new Golden Sun-installment emerge from development, over rallying for Isaac to be part of the Second Pass as a playable DLC:
be revered for eons as a savior for many supporting fanbases of Spirit-fied characters, but I've always felt correlating same to already modeled + programmed-in NPC-role of a quest character felt, kinda ineffective as an effective argument - but even then I could chalk someone like Kamek having higher chance than any Assist Trophy, in case most would discuss how Piranha Plant was still a stage hazard in N64 Mushroom Kingdom prior to being a surprise addition of Ultimate) made the fanbases of those characters in that Leak look such a joke back then.
Thanks! I don't have a Wii U, unfortunately, but I will find the game sooner or later, I guess. Or it will be remastered on Switch, fingers crossed!
Isaac: A Fletchling! I hope It's friend--OW!
— SonicLink125 ☀️ (@SonicLink125) September 14, 2020
(Robin; Isaac's Jap name vs Robin-type Pokémon) lol
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That’s so awesome you finished the first GS game! You are now officially an Adept like us! Are you in the support list by any chance?
I'd like to take a moment to thank you for creating this image:Isaac: A Fletchling! I hope It's friend--OW!
— SonicLink125 ☀️ (@SonicLink125) September 14, 2020
(Robin; Isaac's Jap name vs Robin-type Pokémon) lol
#SmashBros #GoldenSun #AssistAlliance pic.twitter.com/yoD9zrI7HG
A robin fighting Robin. The irony. Lmao
I have zero doubts at all that Golden Sun will return very soon. It’s all a matter of “WHEN” not “IF”. We just have to play the waiting game for the moment, Adepts.
Nintendo would be wise to add Isaac in the Pass to go along the new GS game. If that’s what it takes to get Isaac in, so be it. He’s the FINAL character I’ve been wanting for over 15 years to be playable in Smash. There are many other characters I’d love to see get in too like, Doom Slayer, Juno/Vela (Jet Force Gemini), Sora, Shadow, Waluigi, Geno, etc. and I would still support them. But I’m also getting too old for these things. Just getting Isaac (and GS returning) would finally put my gamer heart to rest knowing my waiting/campaigning for it all would have been worth it.
That’s so awesome you finished the first GS game! You are now officially an Adept like us! Are you in the support list by any chance?
Just know that GS and The Lost Age were meant to be one game at the time, but it was too big to fit in the GBA cartrage. So they split it into two games instead. So, the “cliffhanger” is not bad compared to Dark Dawn unfortunately...
Haha! No problem!
One can only hope so. Even after reading everything that Golden Sun on Switch seems like a decently high possibility, I've been trying to keep my expectations in check. :D
Absolutely! We will keep the steam going as long as we need to.
And soon, it will go into hyper overdrive. Can’t wait for that day!
I'm not on the list yet but I would like to be added.Isaac: A Fletchling! I hope It's friend--OW!
— SonicLink125 ☀️ (@SonicLink125) September 14, 2020
(Robin; Isaac's Jap name vs Robin-type Pokémon) lol
#SmashBros #GoldenSun #AssistAlliance pic.twitter.com/yoD9zrI7HG
A robin fighting Robin. The irony. Lmao
I have zero doubts at all that Golden Sun will return very soon. It’s all a matter of “WHEN” not “IF”. We just have to play the waiting game for the moment, Adepts.
Nintendo would be wise to add Isaac in the Pass to go along the new GS game. If that’s what it takes to get Isaac in, so be it. He’s the FINAL character I’ve been wanting for over 15 years to be playable in Smash. There are many other characters I’d love to see get in too like, Doom Slayer, Juno/Vela (Jet Force Gemini), Sora, Shadow, Waluigi, Geno, etc. and I would still support them. But I’m also getting too old for these things. Just getting Isaac (and GS returning) would finally put my gamer heart to rest knowing my waiting/campaigning for it all would have been worth it.
That’s so awesome you finished the first GS game! You are now officially an Adept like us! Are you in the support list by any chance?
Just know that GS and The Lost Age were meant to be one game at the time, but it was too big to fit in the GBA cartrage. So they split it into two games instead. So, the “cliffhanger” is not bad compared to Dark Dawn unfortunately...
Imagine how fun the GS1 cliffhanger was for us fans that first beat the game before GS2 was even close to releasing. >_>
I can imagine!
How my Smash Mains (Link, Sonic, Mii Isaac, & Simon) would pass through a mid-floating platform.#Zelda #Sonic #GoldenSun #Castlevania #SmashBros pic.twitter.com/csxXkSnPlP
— SonicLink125 ☀️ (@SonicLink125) September 15, 2020
Done
Thanks!
