Sumting Sumting Maifa | Game Over

[Wiisp]

I could care less in regards to what Hand is saying it this point
your alignment will not be affected by his words

 

[Jackrito]

I could care less in regards to what Hand is saying it this point
your alignment will not be affected by his words

Not to you maybe, based off the level of play off some though. I would not be shocked if some people did.

 

[Malakandra]

That case is fine I guess but pretty much a rehash of things that were already said on Logic so not anything new, and you never really pushed this after the fact just sat on Hando all day. Scum are more likely to do this since a dead game state is better for them.

Your point on me is weak though in that world, it is not worth bussing. A ny credit is negated and Z25 was more likely at the time also. I had no reason to change my own stance, on not voting Hando if scum. I can just sit off wagon. and point to my reasons for not voting there. I also don't make such a big deal out of not voting Z25 if my teammate is the alt and I had a previous scum read on Z25. They is my whole ethics thing, but lets talk general terms and players.

Your post just quoted about Logic showed your thoughts on me were not as bad, I would say my play has improved a lot since then so saying you still scum read me and trying to use a potential bus as a reason is just bad.

I had been pushing Logic, considering I voted him, but Handorin was always a stronger scum read so of course I switched back to that when he was an option again and well he voted himself.


Alright, I'll not go into that because of ethics and the whole mess.

But I don't think your play has improved drastically sense then, and I don't think you can say it objectively has since you had a higher vig vote than me. I don't like that you said you thought logic was a better shot in post 2199, and then did not vote for him for Vig. I understand you reasoning more now as doing the very same thing seems to have backfired on me, but I think its always better to go for someone you think is scum, rather than go with someone you feel is more likely until much closer to deadline. I also don't like you advocating for Xivii to hammer.

sorry it took me long to reply I was eating dinner.

 

[Handorin]

ohh god
all this wine

I do miss my custom dgames vip badge.

 

[Wiisp]

I will bite my tongue here and not say the words I am going to say in regards to your play this game
this will be a post-game discussion if I even remember to check this game after I get yeeted
someone remember to ping me

 

[Wiisp]

if anyone wants more reasons why Handorin needs to die
look no further than these two posts and his self vote
don't think about his alignment anymore
and just think about moving forward

I believe in you all!

 

[Jackrito]

I had been pushing Logic, considering I voted him, but Handorin was always a stronger scum read so of course I switched back to that when he was an option again and well he voted himself.


Alright, I'll not go into that because of ethics and the whole mess.

But I don't think your play has improved drastically sense then, and I don't think you can say it objectively has since you had a higher vig vote than me. I don't like that you said you thought logic was a better shot in post 2199, and then did not vote for him for Vig. I understand you reasoning more now as doing the very same thing seems to have backfired on me, but I think its always better to go for someone you think is scum, rather than go with someone you feel is more likely until much closer to deadline. I also don't like you advocating for Xivii to hammer.

sorry it took me long to reply I was eating dinner.

Ok I just checked you did vote Logic for some reason thought you were on Hando all day. so that does check out. I dont call that pushing him though, that is a blind vote.

I feel my personal play has improved, I don't care what others think. People are normally wrong on me I'm used to it, but I get the job done regardless. I'm not defending my vig shot vote because like said before the vig shot is different then a lynch in my book. What does it matter if he hammered Osie does Twlights normally if hammered early, stop rehashing things other people said.

 

[Jackrito]

if anyone wants more reasons why Handorin needs to die
look no further than these two posts and his self vote
don't think about his alignment anymore
and just think about moving forward

I believe in you all!

Well yeah he needs to die, they is no debate on that.

 

[Wiisp]

Jackrito
god I wish I knew what your alignment was

 

[Jackrito]

Jackrito
god I wish I knew what your alignment was

Should be clear tbh, but I get it paranoia can make it hard lol.

 

[Wiisp]

I wanna look at the post counts, how many posts are per page in the search function?
Xivii

 

[Jackrito]

I wanna look at the post counts, how many posts are per page in the search function?
Xivii

20

 

[Wiisp]

maybe urs is different, mine shows 50
either way, I got u at 266 posts

 

[Wiisp]

like I said, this would be a lot easier, if I could at least see the full posts in the search function
like I am sure I could get a better read of you if I could read through all your posts

 

[Wiisp]

Jackrito
what was your Malak/Hand/X/X
team again?

and what about Malak/Hand/Logic/X

 

[Jackrito]

maybe urs is different, mine shows 50
either way, I got u at 266 posts

No you are right it is 50 when I check myself lol. On Triss the second page was only 20.

On another note 266 may be one of my highest post counts since I started using sites with iso feature.

 

[Jackrito]

Jackrito
what was your Malak/Hand/X/X
team again?

and what about Malak/Hand/Logic/X

I had Boom in the both with Logic I think. Not really seeing Boom as scum as much tbh I come back to that later this game. I would maybe put Spak in now for both.

 

[Trisscar]

....twould be very useful if the board stated what time zone it was running in, maybe I can change a setting somewhere.....

I'm reading Logic as a good vig target regardless of flip atm. However Jackrito is correct that we are in First Past the Post voting atm, and therefore for my vote to count I need to join a wagon in that regard.
Therefore my vig vote is Malak I think in either scenario.

 

[Jackrito]

I had Boom in the both with Logic I think. Not really seeing Boom as scum as much tbh I come back to that later this game. I would maybe put Spak in now for both.

Actually Pythag is worse then Spak tbh

 

[LogicoftheVI]

Because logic no voting makes me feel like Logic knew both main wagons were town, and voting for either one which would of broken the tie would make him look suspicious.

Logic was not around for that tho?
Your argument only holds up if I was there acting like I didnt want to vote them.
Not sure how just not being there at all incrimanates me?

 

[Wiisp]

ok lets go with this
Logic/Hand/Malak/Spak

 

[Wiisp]

ok lets go with this
Logic/Hand/Malak/Spak

nah I'm just gonna stick with this

 

[LogicoftheVI]

no lynching d1 is awful

Im honestly a fan (usually). Here it's fine seeing as we got 2 town bodies d2 anyway.

 

[Jackrito]

I need to do a full review of Pythag and Spak tbh. I'm fine with with most of the rest as town atm maybe Bessie but their tone feels town and they is some clear issues going on there.

That last part means without Mala and Logic of course. DB I see as scummy also, but that claim and vig issue makes them town for now.

 

[Jackrito]

Im honestly a fan (usually). Here it's fine seeing as we got 2 town bodies d2 anyway.

How is having 2 town bodies fine?

 

[Malakandra]

thats three people now who would rather vote logic, but whatever.

Logic was not around for that tho?
Your argument only holds up if I was there acting like I didnt want to vote them.
Not sure how just not being there at all incrimanates me?

if you weren't there sure, but thats also not the main reason for me thinking you are scum. I am associating scum you to be more likely with a town Hand.

 

[Cuthalion]

Jack, he's been a bad scummate

thank you for removing any trace of doubt from my mind

BoomFrog also switching to double mal ftr

 

[Cuthalion]

Should be clear tbh, but I get it paranoia can make it hard lol.

this is a weird reply

ok lets go with this
Logic/Hand/Malak/Spak

like, yes

but that's also the shruggiest wolfteam of all time

if it is that, or close to that, i understand why they're all off in irkutsk instead of posting, but.

Im honestly a fan (usually). Here it's fine seeing as we got 2 town bodies d2 anyway.

you're right, that does make it worth it

 

[Wiisp]

thank you for removing any trace of doubt from my mind

BoomFrog also switching to double mal ftr

hmm?

 

[Wiisp]

sometimes the shruggiest wolf team is just correct?
if we have to assume deep wolves, I believe in you guys
but if there isnt at least two wolves in that PoE, I will be baffled

 

[Wiisp]

but deep wolf suspicion comes later

 

[LogicoftheVI]

How is having 2 town bodies fine?

If we had mislynches and mafia got a kill that would be 2 bodies.
Had we mislynches yesterday 2 bodies start of today losing 3 is worse no?
We basically started D2 where we would "normally".

thats three people now who would rather vote logic, but whatever.

if you weren't there sure, but thats also not the main reason for me thinking you are scum. I am associating scum you to be more likely with a town Hand.

Why tho?
That's the question?
Did I mention I hate preflip?

 

[LogicoftheVI]

Trying to get this read list done and my big vote will.come shortly.

 

[LogicoftheVI]

Vig** vote

 

[Wiisp]

WHO THE HELL CARES IF WE HAVE MISLYNCHES
OUR VOTES ARE THE ONLY WAY TO ACHIEVE THE TOWN WIN-CON

 

[Jackrito]

If we had mislynches and mafia got a kill that would be 2 bodies.
Had we mislynches yesterday 2 bodies start of today losing 3 is worse no?
We basically started D2 where we would "normally".

Why tho?
That's the question?
Did I mention I hate preflip?

If hando flips scum today though we would of had 2 town and 1 wolf dead. We also would have votes to look at in that world when scum pick the kills it is to help them not us. Lasor getting Killed did nothing for me. We did get Wisp which was good, but he could of done a lot more if we had a lynch to work from. Without that we just had assumptions and guess work. We don't win by all of us dying.

 

[Jackrito]

Well Maybe Logic wins if we all die.

 

[Cuthalion]

sometimes the shruggiest wolf team is just correct?
if we have to assume deep wolves, I believe in you guys
but if there isnt at least two wolves in that PoE, I will be baffled

no i think it makes sense from like a

threadstate

pov

mild stagnation makes sense

 

[Wiisp]

god damnit if I am going to leave a ****ing legacy
I will die on this ledge

Jackrito is town

 

[Wiisp]

Evaluate this PoE
Logic/Hand/Malak/Spak