stage discussion

[nigam]

while i have been playing with my friends i have started to realize what levels are good for their character and bad for them, so i have dacided to make a list on the levels to ban and levels that counter pick them and i was hoping that you would tell me if i picked the right levels for the character.

IT WILL GO COUNTERPICK/BAN


Bowser- ??/??
Captain Falcon- Brinstar, FoD/FD, DreamLand
Doc-Yoshi's Story, FoD/FD, Corneria
Falco- ??/??(no idea whats bad for the other falco and good for me)
Fox- Brinstar, Battlefield/Dreamland, Green Greens
Ganondorf- FD, Poke Floats/Battlefield, MK2
Ice Climbers- Brinstar, Rainbow Cruise/FD, Corneria
Jigglypuff- Yoshi's Story, Green Greens/Mute City, DL64
Kirby- ??/??
Link- Pokemon Stadium, Battlefield/MK2, DK64
Luigi- FD, Jungle Japes/Yoshi's Story, FoD
Mario- Yoshi's Story, Battlefield/FD, Pokemon Stadium
Marth- FD, Brinstar/Yoshi's Story, FoD
Mewtwo- Yoshi's Story, FoD/DK64, DL64
G&W- Yoshi's Story, Battlefield/Mute City, FoD
Ness- Yoshi's Story, Green Greens/Corneria, DL64
Pichu- FD, Pokemon Stadium/Corneria, Green Greens
Pikachu- FD, Pokemon Stadium/Corneria, Green Greens
Roy- FD, Yoshi's Story/MK2, DK64
Samus- Yoshi's Story, Green Greens/DL64, Pokemon Stadium
Sheik- mute city, junglejapes/battlefield, dreamland
Yoshi- ??/??
Young Link- Corneria, Poke Floats/FD, DL64
Zelda- FD, Battlefield/?, ?

That's what I'm thinking so far. Does anybody have anything to add/change?
thanxs in advance

 

[Adi]

Bowser- ??/??

Counterpick FD or a large level such as Dreamland. Ban Yoshi's Story because Bowser's have lotsa techniques at their disposal on that stage.

Captain Falcon- Brinstar, FoD/FD, DreamLand

I understand FoD as a counterpick but why Brinstar.

Fox- Brinstar, Battlefield/Dreamland, Green Greens

FD's a pretty standard Fox counterpick, if you control the level with lasers and have solid combos you can really wreck Foxes. Also I'm surprised at banning dreamland, it has a high ceiling so you're less likely to die over the top.

I didn't read the rest because I'm mad tired right now lol.

 

[nigam]

alright so heres the new list

Bowser- FD dreamland/yoshi story
Captain Falcon- Brinstar, FoD/FD, DreamLand
Doc-Yoshi's Story, FoD/FD, Corneria
Falco- ??/??(no idea whats bad for the other falco and good for me)
Fox-FD, Brinstar, Battlefield/ Green Greens,FD
Ganondorf- FD, Poke Floats/Battlefield, MK2
Ice Climbers- Brinstar, Rainbow Cruise/FD, Corneria
Jigglypuff- Yoshi's Story, Green Greens/Mute City, DL64
Kirby- ??/??
Link- Pokemon Stadium, Battlefield/MK2, DK64
Luigi- FD, Jungle Japes/Yoshi's Story, FoD
Mario- Yoshi's Story, Battlefield/FD, Pokemon Stadium
Marth- FD, Brinstar/Yoshi's Story, FoD
Mewtwo- Yoshi's Story, FoD/DK64, DL64
G&W- Yoshi's Story, Battlefield/Mute City, FoD
Ness- Yoshi's Story, Green Greens/Corneria, DL64
Pichu- FD, Pokemon Stadium/Corneria, Green Greens
Pikachu- FD, Pokemon Stadium/Corneria, Green Greens
Roy- FD, Yoshi's Story/MK2, DK64
Samus- Yoshi's Story, Green Greens/DL64, Pokemon Stadium
Sheik- mute city, junglejapes/battlefield, dreamland
Yoshi- ??/??
Young Link- Corneria, Poke Floats/FD, DL64
Zelda- FD, Battlefield/?, ?

i was thinking brinstar because the lava would cover the bottom floor so he could only combo me using the platforms and because of the things on the bottom floor

Now that i think about it i agree with u on the fox dreamland thing, i was questining it because falcos recovery is way shorter than foxs so its harder for him to die.

That's what I'm thinking so far. Does anybody have anything to add/change?
thanxs in advance

 

[Dr Peepee]

You'll wanna ban Jungle Japes for Bowser as well, he has sooo many options on that stage. There is another one I have a question about: why DL and FD against Falcon? I would think that the extra room would give you more space to laser and have some breathing room.

 

[nigam]

new list

Bowser- FD dreamland/yoshi story,jungle japes
Captain Falcon- Brinstar, FoD/FD, DreamLand
Doc-Yoshi's Story, FoD/FD, Corneria
Falco- ??/??(no idea whats bad for the other falco and good for me)
Fox-FD, Brinstar, Battlefield/ Green Greens,FD
Ganondorf- FD, Poke Floats/Battlefield, MK2
Ice Climbers- Brinstar, Rainbow Cruise/FD, Corneria
Jigglypuff- Yoshi's Story, Green Greens/Mute City, DL64
Kirby- ??/??
Link- Pokemon Stadium, Battlefield/MK2, DK64
Luigi- FD, Jungle Japes/Yoshi's Story, FoD
Mario- Yoshi's Story, Battlefield/FD, Pokemon Stadium
Marth- FD, Brinstar/Yoshi's Story, FoD
Mewtwo- Yoshi's Story, FoD/DK64, DL64
G&W- Yoshi's Story, Battlefield/Mute City, FoD
Ness- Yoshi's Story, Green Greens/Corneria, DL64
Pichu- FD, Pokemon Stadium/Corneria, Green Greens
Pikachu- FD, Pokemon Stadium/Corneria, Green Greens
Roy- FD, Yoshi's Story/MK2, DK64
Samus- Yoshi's Story, Green Greens/DL64, Pokemon Stadium
Sheik- mute city, junglejapes/battlefield, dreamland
Yoshi- ??/??
Young Link- Corneria, Poke Floats/FD, DL64
Zelda- FD, Battlefield/?, ?


you defentally wanna ban levels that give falcon room. they are his best levels and he can start mad combos, that can kill you from 0-to death if hes good enough and can read your di

That's what I'm thinking so far. Does anybody have anything to add/change?
thanxs in advance

 

[Junpappy]

Could you just edit the original post? It seems excessive to repost the list with every update.

I don't know why you've listed Brinstar as a counterpick at all - lava ***** Falco as well as other fast fallers, but with his ****ty recovery and the fact that you can phantasm past both edges, it's really not a good stage for Falco.

Most Falco players would hesitate to take a Marth player to FD, considering the zero-to-death that he can pull with just a single grab. I personally prefer Dreamland, as the height of the platforms offers protection from automatic tippers, and allow for easier comboing.

 

[Witchking_of_Angmar]

Vs fox you want to counterpick PS and DL64, the platforms make CG harder and combos last longer, and you have enough space to laser efficiently.

 

[Ryan-K]

why would you counterpick bowser to dreamland LOL >_>

He lives really long on that stage compared to falco