sports thread?

[CableCho57]

there must be gamers who follow sports right? post here!

nc mens winning the title, uconn womens going undefeated, mlb opening day, nba playoffs to start, etc.

 

[pockyD]

kind of pointless when there's no specific topic

 

[CableCho57]

yeah well i thought it would be hard with one specific sport. well to get it started i think lebron james will win season mvp =/ but kobe will win finals mvp(being a huge laker fan and completely biased =). and lebron is overrated. anyone else agree/disagree?

 

[SuperRad]

I dont follow enough basketball to have a completely unique and original opinion

But how is Lebron James overrated? He's dominating the NBA right now on the team with the best record. He's incredibly young and keeps getting better.

You just sound like most Laker fans: bitter that people say he's better than Kobe.

 

[One Word Extinguisher]

i follow basketball, football, and baseball

in terms of knowledge i know baseball and basketball like the back of my hand, less so on football because it's become more and more boring to me

but the level of discourse won't be very high when it comes to sports because we're dealing with young dudes and nerd-type kids who only know what they're spoonfed and don't go digging for more

and considering you're a lakers fan and think lebron is overrated, you're probably who i'm talking about

 

[HyugaRicdeau]

You don't mention the Sharks being 2 pts from clinching the President's Trophy =(
I follow hockey, football, and tennis. Most smashers only know anything about one of those. And even then...

 

[Lovage]

i play frisbee

 

[JDM]

I used to play football for 2 years.

 

[Noble-]

The only sport I participate in and follow is Fencing.

 

[Sleepy]

I play ping pong and tennis. I follow baseball, football, basketball.
If I had cable I would watch baseball day and night. Tennis I only watch when I know there is a match on.

 

[pockyD]

I follow football (college and NFL) and baseball (majors, and minors for my team, the rangers) in pretty good detail

I follow basketball a decent amount, but honestly only when it's convenient... i have a decent idea of what's going on in the nba, and near zero knowledge of ncaa (though i do enjoy watching tournament games)

Only watch hockey when it's the stars or penguins, and the stars SUCK

i actually like watching a lot of the less traditional sports, especially short track speed skating... that **** is so cool

 

[-Rei-]

I only follow soccer and tennis.

 

[JZA]

lakers are gonna take it
since the spurs were the only ones that were suppose to stop us but ginobili's out we shouldnt struggle too much
the only teams i see as problems are portland and utah, portland cuz we cant win in portland and utah because we have no one that can guard d-will
as for the east side, the lakers have proven that they can beat both boston and cleveland, and i dont see orlando making it without jameer nelson
plus we have kobe

 

[LooksLikePit]

competitive origami

 

[joeplicate]

International Federation of Competitive Eating

 

[-Rei-]

i once watched the hot dog eating contest on espn
that was some crazy ****
kobayashi is a beast

 

[joeplicate]

yeah, that's kind of like the bombsoldier of competitive eating

 

[The Greater Leon]

yeah, that's kind of like the bombsoldier of competitive eating

go to bed young man

 

[EdreesesPieces]

yeah well i thought it would be hard with one specific sport. well to get it started i think lebron james will win season mvp =/ but kobe will win finals mvp(being a huge laker fan and completely biased =). and lebron is overrated. anyone else agree/disagree?

I've been a laker fan for life but i think lebron is mvp. lakers will win the championship and have a better team for sure but lebron has had a better year than kobe. I think lebron deserves it but I think the person who ends up with the better record will get it.

I follow football and basketball. I like to play any sport

btw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEVdca9U9LM

 

[SuperRad]

**** kobayashi

JOEY CHESTNUT
san jose's finest

 

[Fungus Amongus]

lakers will win the championship and have a better team for sure ]

They probably won't, and they definitely don't.

lakers are gonna take it
since the spurs were the only ones that were suppose to stop us but ginobili's out we shouldnt struggle too much
the only teams i see as problems are portland and utah, portland cuz we cant win in portland and utah because we have no one that can guard d-will
as for the east side, the lakers have proven that they can beat both boston and cleveland, and i dont see orlando making it without jameer nelson
plus we have kobe

lol this post is cute and saddening at the same time

 

[JZA]

**** i thought that post was pretty legit
laker hater p?

 

[Fungus Amongus]

no, it's just your reasons for everything were wrong

1. the spurs were not the team to be afraid of, not with duncan already hurting
2. you should probably be worried about andrew bynum's return, the nuggets, and the rockets
3. boston with a healthy kg or cleveland is a better team than the lakers, and the cavs will have both home court and the best player (by far, i will laugh you out of here if you claim kobe is better than lbj)
4. kobe is probably the reason you won't win it

 

[JZA]

1. okay i see you on this one, i based my comments off the media pretty much
2. i think we can win the west without bynum, we've doin fine the past 3 months. we swept the rockets in the regular season and nuggets really? i dont really have a strong arguement for this, but cant see it happening. esp. if they play jazz first round, if jazz can steal one in the road its over
3. no, huge kobe fan/lebron hater, but lbj > kb24. kobe can be stopped with good team d(see 08 finals), bron will get his no matter what. idk bout boston and cleveland being better than us... we beat them both on the road without bynum in a one-week span
4. id like to think kobe's matured enough for this too be false

 

[Fungus Amongus]

2. i meant with.

3. and stop basing ish off of season series or what nonsense. ever heard of a small sample size? context (or lack thereof)?

4. lol like giving up v the suns? he becomes much more selfish in the playoffs because he thinks he has to (and is good enough) to do everything. it's easy to make him an inefficient shooter that way. shane battier and bruce bowen own his life lololol. what % did he shoot v the celtics last year?

a good team defense? what exactly do you think the cavs and celts have? the best two defenses in the NBA. when kobe shoots 40% or below who's gonna win the lakers the series?

 

[JZA]

2. ill say the same thing with, adding bynum in to the mix can only help things. he wont throw off our offensive flow because we can easily just not throw it into him but he automatically makes our defense better with his mere presence inside altering shots and what not

3. ok but you gotta admit the regular season is some indication of what happens in the postseason, with the celts winning 2-0 against the lakeshow. and also that one year where the warriors were the only team to win a season series against the mavs and ended up "upsetting" them in the playoff years

4. yes thats exactly what i mean, that was 3 years ago, and id like to think hes matured since then, when he was surrounded with smush parker, kwame brown, luke walton etc. etc. what else can you expect? and bruce bowen is washed up and cannot keep up with kobe anymore (see 08 western conference finals). and i said he didnt do well against the celts last year so yea

and thats the big thing with this lakers team, its depth. we dont need kobe to go off for 30 every night now. we got pau who use to carry his own team in memphis that can do his thing, bynum that can go to work every now and then, and dare i say lamar odom? cant find the exact article right now but the lakers actually have a better record when kobe scores less that 20 points than when he scores over 20.

you dont win 60+ games on accident

regardless, you either get a celtics/lakers rematch or a kobe vs bron finals, its a win-win
finals will be fun

 

[joeplicate]

all this sports talk is actually really interesting

even though I haven't watched the lakers since 2001/2002

 

[Fungus Amongus]

2. turning lamar odom back into a non-factor doesn't help things. it basically wastes the value of ariza and odom.

3. no i don't. 82 games mean more than one or two. remember, 52 (or 56 or something) of everyone's games are exactly the same. those are much more important. the examples you mentioned are just selective memory (poor logic).

4. people are who they are. you're also brushing off how horrible he was v the celts; no, really, he lost the series. your best player can't shoot around 40% and be hailed as the best in the game. he's the worst star on any legitimately contending team; worse than D-Ho, KG, LBJ. too bad wade's team isn't good enough to contend, cause wade ***** him too.

anyway the lakers are boring, it's the same laker fans throwing out the same arguments and clouded by the same bias. all of the top four teams are pretty much equal, but the cavs will win because they can play lebron james 46-48 minutes a night and get more production from the best player in the game. in the playoffs, depth matters less because your starters play more minutes. lbj's only been playing 36-38; prior in his career he averaged 40-plus. he'll be fresher for the playoffs, and it was lbj playing the entire game that allowed a much lesser cavs team bring the celtics to the bring of elimination, something kobe failed spectacularly at just a series later.

 

[JZA]

all this sports talk is actually really interesting

even though I haven't watched the lakers since 2001/2002

haha this is only reason i tried gettin into it with p, bring some life to this thread. doesnt look like its working


2. where'd i talk about turning L.O. into a non-factor?

3. the 52/56 games are much more important than what? yea it is selective memory, but theres plenty more examples where that came from

4. haha dude, how am i brushing off his horrible performance when i brought it up first, in my arguement for lbj > kobe?
-"no, huge kobe fan/lebron hater, but lbj > kb24. kobe can be stopped with good team d(SEE 08 FINALS), bron will get his no matter what." so your arguing with me over nothing. but i will not take d-ho or kg over kobe if i need someone to get me buckets with the game on the line. kobes way more proven, there is no possible way you can deny that. he may lose a lot of games, but he wins more for his team than kg and dwight
i agree with your wade comment tho, if the heat were a 50 win team, id definitely say hes the mvp.

haha how can the lakers be boring when no matter what the game always seems to go down to the wire with them. even up double digits in the fourth they always end up blowing the lead and making the game interesting(frustrating as hell). the hawks also took the celts to the brink of elimination, so joe johnson > kobe? i think the celts just lost a bit of their rythm from resting their starters toward the end, and they hit stride at the right time. but im definitely frightened of the cavs, on the verge of being 40-1 @ home (ridiculous) and it looks like theyre gonna win that home court and ill say the same thing for them that i said about the lakers, you dont win 60 games on accident


did you see the portland game last night? further justifying my fact that theyre the team that we should be afraid of (who we just might see in the 2nd round) and not the nuggets (who we beat the night before and they were on an 8-game winning streak playing their best ball of the season) which is why this whole thing started in the first place

 

[Sleepy]

speculation is good,
but there's a valid reason why they play the games....

 

[Fungus Amongus]

2. where'd i talk about turning L.O. into a non-factor?

?

wat? that's my point. you said Bynum "wont throw off our offensive flow," but remember lamar odom back in november and december? averaging less than 10 points per game lamar odom? 40% shooting lamar odom? yeah, about that...

3. the 52/56 games are much more important than what?

than one of two "head to head matchups" or "well when the Lakers played X team they won, so they'll probably win in the playoffs!" crap.

it's illogical and therefore dumb so i advise you to stop doing it

4. haha dude, how am i brushing off his horrible performance when i brought it up first, in my arguement for lbj > kobe? so your arguing with me over nothing. but i will not take d-ho or kg over kobe if i need someone to get me buckets with the game on the line. kobes way more proven, there is no possible way you can deny that. he may lose a lot of games, but he wins more for his team than kg and dwight
i agree with your wade comment tho, if the heat were a 50 win team, id definitely say hes the mvp.

cause earlier you were like "omg we have kobe," like kobe is really that much of an asset. nah son just because you acknowledge he sucked in one series doesn't mean you don't believe he's the most clutch player in the NBA, which, shamefully, the vast majority of NBA fans / Laker fans believe.

hahaha i remember on 82games that kobe's eFG% was under 40% in the 4th quarter... no, he's probably not nearly as "clutch" as you think. . uh yeah i'd take a shooting guard over a power forward to take a game-winning shot, but that has nothing to do with anything.

kobe was proven -- when he was playing with shaq. since then, he's been alright -- nothing special, nothing worth tooting your horn over.

http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM

why is LBJ's percentage pushing 10 opints higher than kobe's? melo, wade, paul... all shooting way higher than kobe. kobe's on brandon roy's level LOL.

but maybe i'm just stereotyping you and i'm wrong, and if so, i apologize

the hawks also took the celts to the brink of elimination, so joe johnson > kobe? i think the celts just lost a bit of their rythm from resting their starters toward the end, and they hit stride at the right time. but im definitely frightened of the cavs, on the verge of being 40-1 @ home (ridiculous) and it looks like theyre gonna win that home court and ill say the same thing for them that i said about the lakers, you dont win 60 games on accident

"the brink of elimination" and the hawks in the same breath is quite misleading -- the hawks only won at home, getting blown out every road game. the cavs had a legit shot to win in game 7, and that was with a much lesser team.

i hope everything goes to plan and they meet int he finals cuz if so, the cavs are gonna **** da lakers =)

did you see the portland game last night? further justifying my fact that theyre the team that we should be afraid of (who we just might see in the 2nd round) and not the nuggets (who we beat the night before and they were on an 8-game winning streak playing their best ball of the season) which is why this whole thing started in the first place

LOL yeah portland's pretty good. i'll take that comment back, but for the most part i don't see the lakers having a reason to be scared of any western confernec team. **** is gonna be cake compared to beating orlando/boston

edit: and god sleepy SHUT UP

 

[pockyD]

Radek Bonk

 

[SuperRad]

D'Brickashaw Ferguson

 

[pockyD]

Stubby Clapp

 

[EdreesesPieces]

Lakers 2-0 against cavaliers and 2-0 against boston. bynum didn't play in both of those respective away games. that's what makes me confident. I actually watched all four of these games and the way the game went I felt like the lakers were in control pretty much the whole time in all four games. the lakers have matchup problems sometimes with teams like the blazers, but they match up extremely well vs the cavs especially with bynum in the game.( and by the finals he will be quite ready)

by the way when he said bynum won't throw off the offensive flow he was referring to the team as a whole. yeah lamar's gonna score less (DUH, he's moving to the bench from a starting position) and will score less, but overall the team won't score less as bynum's points will more than make up for it as he gets his rhythym back.

 

[JZA]

P doin his thing

aw **** you went 82games on me, auto-win

but seriously i think with kobe its like, he shoots like crazy in the final minutes of a game so he misses a lot, but he also makes some. so low eFG% or not, he gets the job done (cmon man roy's pretty clutch, did not expect melo to be up there tho)

its kinda like iverson back in his prime when he was puttin up 30-35 a game but on 30 shots but he was still seen as one of the best scorers in the game

im a laker fan, but im a basketball fan first. and being a person who actually plays basketball, theres no way you cant respect kobe's game as a ball player (not team player). i mean yea dood can get selfish, but his arsenal of offensive moves is 2nd to none, his footwork is ridiculous and jumper is butter (the only two things he has over 'Bron IMO), he just doesnt have the best shot selection (i.e. taking a three in the corner with like two doods inside his jersey (and he STILL makes it sometimes))
LBJ is a beast of a player though, endless natural talent and freakishly athletic. i think the scariest thing about him is hes only TWENTY-FOUR. I cant help but to think that his crazy numbers are a product of his build (6' 8'', 250 with the speed of a point? i mean...come on) than his skill, not knockin his skill though
thats why i like d-wade so much, he puts up the same numbers as bron but is a lot less physically gifted than bron

kobe vs bron is david sterns wet dream haha
man if lakers make finals and lose again, idk what im gonna do
they definitely have a better chance against the celts than the cavs tho
**** the cavs **** on the celts somethin fierce today, i guess kg makes a bigger difference than i thought

and finally someone helps me out, thanks edrees

 

[Fungus Amongus]

aw **** you went 82games on me, auto-win

dwaaayumn an 82games fan? alright i'll cut off the condescension, i apologize

but seriously i think with kobe its like, he shoots like crazy in the final minutes of a game so he misses a lot, but he also makes some. so low eFG% or not, he gets the job done (cmon man roy's pretty clutch, did not expect melo to be up there tho)

yeah but that works well for a lesser team that can afford lower efficiency possessions just because the next best option just can't create his own shot. but that's what phil's trying to convince kobe of his whole career -- that if you trust in the triangle offense, it creates such high percentage shots that you don't need to worry about that.

that's why i think kobe was so good -- when he was with shaq. he could conserve more energy and pick his spots, and when he picked his spots and wasn't tired from all other responsibilities -- lights out. it's done. but he could be doing that ALL the time. pau gasol is shooting what, 55% this year? jordan farmar, trevor ariza -- there are some finishers on the team. get it done.

its kinda like iverson back in his prime when he was puttin up 30-35 a game but on 30 shots but he was still seen as one of the best scorers in the game

you do not wanna get me started on iverson

im a laker fan, but im a basketball fan first. and being a person who actually plays basketball, theres no way you cant respect kobe's game as a ball player (not team player).

i agree. i'm just jaded cause 1. he could be doing better, and 2. the media hypes him up like he IS doing better when there have always been players doing it bigger and better than kobe

i mean yea dood can get selfish, but his arsenal of offensive moves is 2nd to none, his footwork is ridiculous and jumper is butter (the only two things he has over 'Bron IMO),

agree with all these things. it's easy to fall in love with his game, i'm not gonna lie

he just doesnt have the best shot selection (i.e. taking a three in the corner with like two doods inside his jersey (and he STILL makes it sometimes))

but that's my main beef. at the top level you gotta minimize mistakes. the spurs are my new favorite team because i love how they play the game. smart, methodical, efficient.

also, the problem is kobe tries so hard to prove his superiority. he's not comfortable with it. dude, the defenders who D him up best all get in his face and make it personal, like he has to prove something every down the court. a good on ball defender who can defend his first move long enough for help to come will shut him down, because he'll get frustrated and put up long jumpers over 2 defenders when the help does come.

that's just unacceptable when you have so many better options with your talent. and he's shown NO signs of changing it. a leopard don't change his spots.

LBJ is a beast of a player though, endless natural talent and freakishly athletic. i think the scariest thing about him is hes only TWENTY-FOUR. I cant help but to think that his crazy numbers are a product of his build (6' 8'', 250 with the speed of a point? i mean...come on) than his skill, not knockin his skill though

no johns, but yeah he's like the most athletic player ever, definitely up there with no slight exaggeration. just insane.

thats why i like d-wade so much, he puts up the same numbers as bron but is a lot less physically gifted than bron

i LOVE d-wade too. my only concern was like is he gonna keep getting banged up, and it sounds like he is. he just doesn't have the build like LBJ to sustain that style. even kobe started mastering his jumper more after a couple years in the L. fortunately wade shows signs of progressing his game to that point, but you gotta wonder, what happens when he gets older?

but yeah wade is incredible, and is another player who has a way strong case to win MVP over kobe this year (but obv not over lebron)

they definitely have a better chance against the celts than the cavs tho

celts looking to get done up by the magic. i hope pierce and allen been saving it ALL for the playoffs.

and finally someone helps me out, thanks edrees

if you go to 82 games you should know better than to care bout 2-0 regular season results. what about all the other games they've played that the cavs have done better?

most importantly, it's the defense. the lake show can't turn it up defensively like mike brown's teams. that dude must be a defensive god for the record.

 

[pockyD]

Benjamin Gay

 

[HyugaRicdeau]

Demarcus Faggins

 

[JZA]

dwaaayumn an 82games fan? alright i'll cut off the condescension, i apologize

'Preciate it. haha

a bunch of stuff that makes sense

celts looking to get done up by the magic. i hope pierce and allen been saving it ALL for the playoffs.

this would be horrible. as much i wanna see kobe possibly deny 'bron a title, i want revenge on the celts more

if you go to 82 games you should know better than to care bout 2-0 regular season results. what about all the other games they've played that the cavs have done better?

most importantly, it's the defense. the lake show can't turn it up defensively like mike brown's teams. that dude must be a defensive god for the record.

i use to think like that but due to those past two series i mentioned before (dallas-gs and la-boston), i started doubting myself. i was like, **** i thought lakers had it against boston but i guess those regular season games were no joke, and the dallas-gs one speaks for itself.
yea our defense is just straight up horrible. its been better recently but its against sub-.500 teams that have nothing to play for so i dont even know
i give credit where credit is due, clevelands been a solid defensive club since mike brown got there.


Evan Longoria?