Spikes in Brawl

[zapdose]

Are there any true spikes in brawl? Or are all of them actually meteor smashes?

 

[Drack]

Ganondorf's Dair
Ike's Dair
Zelda's Dair (sweetspotted)
Robot's Dair
Wolf's Dair

To name a few. All of these have significant stun frames, you can't immediately jump out of it like meteors.

 

[matthewmilad]

Ganondorf's Dair
Ike's Dair
Zelda's Dair (sweetspotted)
Robot's Dair
Wolf's Dair

To name a few. All of these have significant stun frames, you can't immediately jump out of it like meteors.

Marth? Farco? No more?

 

[Wakeuplan]

Lucas' dair (3rd kick). this actually may be a meteor.

 

[skuzzel]

shine? lol....

 

[DrkR]

Marth? Farco? No more?

well..falco's spike is funny u know xD? have u ever seen the Melee PAL version?is just like that..i t wont always spike...

 

[Ademisk]

Pretty sure Ness's dair is a spike now. Nobody's cancelled out of it when I've used it.

 

[Meteor!]

Does meteor canceling even still work?

 

[zapdose]

Does meteor canceling even still work?

I don't think so. Can anyone with Brawl confirm this?

 

[hippochinfat!!]

There are lots in stage builder.

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[Chro]

There are lots in stage builder.

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[pyrnight]

Olimars dair.

 

[Ivoryshadows]

ZEro suit samus has one, its her kick out of her down B or is that a meteor?

 

[Meteor!]

I don't think so. Can anyone with Brawl confirm this?

I have brawl, and I've never been able to meteor cancel.

 

[Jeckena]

Does kirby still have cutter spike? (it was only meteor in melee)

 

[Ampleforth]

I have brawl, and I've never been able to meteor cancel.

If there's no meteor-cancelling in Brawl, then do we have to care if something's a meteor or a spike

 

[Meteor!]

Not really.

 

[t!MmY]

I've meteor canceled plenty of times in Melee over the years. I've yet to do it in Brawl and I've been playing it for over a month.

 

[Tmnt1837]

here is a video of me getting meteor canceled by the computer. It happened when i was practicing zelda's down air. So yes it is possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpDrTMQYBHM

 

[Galeon]

it is definitely possible to meteor cancel in brawl. there just isn't a flash like there was in melee. i up-b'ed out of kirby's up-b in the 90s.

 

[Metzger]

here is a video of me getting meteor canceled by the computer. It happened when i was practicing zelda's down air. So yes it is possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpDrTMQYBHM

You missed your sweetspot in this video. He didn't cancel it, you just plain didn't meteor him.

 

[Azzizaz]

here is a video of me getting meteor canceled by the computer. It happened when i was practicing zelda's down air. So yes it is possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpDrTMQYBHM

You didn't sweetspot the kick, that's why DDD didn't get meteored.

 

[Tmnt1837]

I missed my sweetspot on the first kick, as you can see it only did 5%, but on the second kick it did 24% which you will only get if you sweetspot the kick. Also you see the lightning covering his body on the way up which only occurs after sweetspoting an opponent.

 

[Metzger]

I missed my sweetspot on the first kick, as you can see it only did 5%, but on the second kick it did 24% which you will only get if you sweetspot the kick. Also you see the lightning covering his body on the way up which only occurs after sweetspoting an opponent.

Oh, I didn't even see the second.

Pretty sure he has super armor frames on that part of his Up-B which would have prevented any movement influence on your part, meteor or otherwise.

 

[Meteor!]

Superarmor is the new Meteor Cancel.

 

[Yuna]

I don't think so. Can anyone with Brawl confirm this?

I have brawl, and I've never been able to meteor cancel.

I've meteor canceled... a Footstool Jump (something I heard some people claim was unmeteorcancelable for a while).

Just because you haven't been able to do it or you haven't seen someone able to do it in the heat of battle does not mean it cannot be done. If you wanna test whether something is a spike or not, go into Training Mode and warn whoever's gonna have to meteor cancel right before you perform the Spike/Meteor and test it out repeatedly.

I'm willing to bet the majority (if not all) of the "Spikes" mentioned so far are actually Meteor Smashes.

 

[TickleMePick1e]

im a noob so what is the diffrence between meteor smash and spike examples would help like what is falcos dair and linke upB and cfalcons fair & dair

 

[kr3wman]

im a noob so what is the diffrence between meteor smash and spike examples would help like what is falcos dair and linke upB and cfalcons fair & dair

A Meteor Smash is a move that sends the opponent downward, but if you use your jump or anything like that it cancels it, whereas Spikes send people downward until the hitlag wears off.

 

[Yuna]

im a noob so what is the diffrence between meteor smash and spike examples would help like what is falcos dair and linke upB and cfalcons fair & dair

Links Up B and Falcons Fair are Semi-spikes. These cannot be Meteor Cancelled (because they don't even work the same as Meteor Smashes or Spikes).

They send you mostly horizontally and are hard to DI. However, you can Smash DI them to get much more DI out of it. A Semi-spike is a move that always sends you at pretty much the same angle even if you DI.

 

[Phydeaux742]

is Snake's Fair a spike?

 

[Yuna]

It's a Meteor Smash (I'm fairly certain).

 

[Ark22]

Marth's dair is definitely still a spike. Drago uses the dair to spike people all the time in this video, and I doubt that it can be meteor canceled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqAzaaIADTc

Also, Fox's shine still spikes a bit, but now you might have to get 2 or 3 shines off before the person dies.

 

[SirPsychoMantis]

I thought I heard somewhere that you can no longer meteor cancel with your 2nd jump, only with up-b. Is this true or is my memory failing me?

 

[Wildfire393]

From what I've seen, Meteor Cancelling does not exist in Brawl. However, given the reduced hitstun on most moves, spikes are not quite as fatal as they were in melee.