Sonic's Luigi: Miles Tails Prower

[Thirdkoopa]

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NACK THE WEASEL

...wait this has nothing to do with the thread. Though I still like Nack.

I'd like to see more of Tails; I don't think character slot but I would like it if side-characters appeared in the SSE.

 

[Starcutter]

with sonic's early reveal, how do you guys feel about tails?

 

[StupendousMike]

If there was going to be a second Sonic rep, Tails is the only choice for me. I just don't see it happening.

 

[Welshy91]

I knew this would happen. As soon as that furry blue dude shows up, threads start popping up wanting even MOAR of those... those abominations in my beloved Nintendo game.

 

[Starcutter]

apparently my childhood.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I think Tail's Final Smash would be the Cyclone from Sonic Adventure 2. It was the first Sonic game to come to an Nintendo console.

 

[Zigzagar]

Unfortunately Sakurai won't double up on a 3rd Party franchise or company.
And to me personally I think a second Metal Gear Character more interesting than a second Sonic Character

 

[Starcutter]

Unfortunately Sakurai won't double up on a 3rd Party franchise or company.
And to me personally I think a second Metal Gear Character more interesting than a second Sonic Character

not nearly as important, though. and who said they WON'T double up on 3rd parties. I know it's unlikely though.

 

[Aurora Jenny]

While I don't think it's going to happen here. I find the fact that some of the franchaises have been fully revealed is interesting. could mean there's more waitiing for the 'finished' franchises.

 

[Jigglymaster]

Tails is probably the character I wanted to see in Smash the most out of any other character, and I was upset to see he did not make it into Brawl. Though as much as I want him in Smash 4 I highly doubt he's going to get in, so I'm not going to get my hopes up this time.

 

[APC99]

What I find funny is the fact that no matter what, third-parties should be equal. I've looked around and the fanbase for another Metal Gear character or another Mega Man character is basically nothing, but whenever Sonic pops up, there's 600 character requests. Honestly, my opinion is that if there is a case that a third party gets another character, it shouldn't be from the same series. Smash is about diversity, and I'm sure there are plenty other SEGA, Capcom and Konami characters that can be introduced. Amigo and NiGHTS are all pretty well-known (not on Sonic's level, maybe on Team Chaotix's level if you think about it hard enough), but the other two companies do have other franchises to offer (Bomberman, Castlevania, Street Fighter, Phoenix Wright) but because SEGA isn't known for too much besides Sonic, which is EXTREMELY popular, everybody wants Sonic characters.

That's not saying I wouldn't enjoy them. I'd honestly be perfectly fine with Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, Eggman, Amy Rose or Metal Sonic, if I wasn't so picky about diversity. Hell, a fight between Luigi, Tails and Proto Man would be something to see. However, I think the "all-star" of the series should be the ONLY star from his/her series to enter the ring.

 

[Tetra's Tracker]

I remember when i was a kid, dunno what age iwas i remember my childhood pre 11 quire well but not what year was which, but i remember tails stole my bubble in sonic 2 in that zone after chemical plant with groundr and i died and i was anrgy.

Tails is cool but not cool enough for SSB (playable). I do really like taisl tough.

 

[volbound1700]

What I find funny is the fact that no matter what, third-parties should be equal. I've looked around and the fanbase for another Metal Gear character or another Mega Man character is basically nothing, but whenever Sonic pops up, there's 600 character requests. Honestly, my opinion is that if there is a case that a third party gets another character, it shouldn't be from the same series. Smash is about diversity, and I'm sure there are plenty other SEGA, Capcom and Konami characters that can be introduced. Amigo and NiGHTS are all pretty well-known (not on Sonic's level, maybe on Team Chaotix's level if you think about it hard enough), but the other two companies do have other franchises to offer (Bomberman, Castlevania, Street Fighter, Phoenix Wright) but because SEGA isn't known for too much besides Sonic, which is EXTREMELY popular, everybody wants Sonic characters.

That's not saying I wouldn't enjoy them. I'd honestly be perfectly fine with Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, Eggman, Amy Rose or Metal Sonic, if I wasn't so picky about diversity. Hell, a fight between Luigi, Tails and Proto Man would be something to see. However, I think the "all-star" of the series should be the ONLY star from his/her series to enter the ring.

Not saying I totally disagree with what you are saying but where has there been any indication anywhere, that Sakurai desires for all third parties to get equal representation. I have never seen that comment ever.

 

[Mabataki]

That's not saying I wouldn't enjoy them. I'd honestly be perfectly fine with Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, Eggman, Amy Rose or Metal Sonic, if I wasn't so picky about diversity. Hell, a fight between Luigi, Tails and Proto Man would be something to see. However, I think the "all-star" of the series should be the ONLY star from his/her series to enter the ring.

Hmm ... Metal Sonic? what happens if he gets a Metal Box? does he turn into Metal Metal Sonic? .. lul why dont we stick with Tails, Knuckles, Shadow. those 3 have the best chance

 

[APC99]

Not saying I totally disagree with what you are saying but where has there been any indication anywhere, that Sakurai desires for all third parties to get equal representation. I have never seen that comment ever.

I can't remember if Sakurai said it, but it's commonly thought that it'd be unfair to give the Sonic series more priority than another third-party due to his enormous cast of colorful characters, and Sakurai is cutting down the amount of third-parties.

 

[YoshiandToad]

Tails is probably my joint first favourite video game character of all time alongside Yoshi.

However, I don't want him as a rep. Assist Trophy I'd be down with, maybe a role in Sonic's victory poses/entrance animation, but it'd be going against everything Smash is meant to be: a series celebrating Nintendo.

If for whatever reason Sonic ever became second party I'd probably change my mind in a heartbeat, but now I can't support him, as much as I love the guy.

 

[volbound1700]

I can't remember if Sakurai said it, but it's commonly thought that it'd be unfair to give the Sonic series more priority than another third-party due to his enormous cast of colorful characters, and Sakurai is cutting down the amount of third-parties.

1. We have already matched the number of third party characters in Brawl and I have a feeling we are not done yet. I don't call that "cutting down"

2. Again nothing about how many third party characters. I would say after the initial agreement, it would be easy to add another 3rd party character from the same company. Outside of design and animation, there is no more difficulty in adding Tails since they already have all the agreements to get in Sonic anyways.

3. I seriously doubt we will get Tails (less than .02 %) but stranger things have happened.

 

[APC99]

1. We have already matched the number of third party characters in Brawl and I have a feeling we are not done yet. I don't call that "cutting down"

2. Again nothing about how many third party characters. I would say after the initial agreement, it would be easy to add another 3rd party character from the same company. Outside of design and animation, there is no more difficulty in adding Tails since they already have all the agreements to get in Sonic anyways.

3. I seriously doubt we will get Tails (less than .02 %) but stranger things have happened.

I'm not trying to get in an argument here, but I will acknowledge the requests for Tails and other Sonic characters. My main reasoning is Sakurai is letting in "legendary" characters, I just phrased it wrong. I'm fairly certain there will be more third-parties in the game, but they have to be "legendary" in order to get in. Mega Man, Sonic, Snake, Pac-Man, Geno, Professor Layton, they all fit this well enough, if fanbase and sales are anything to go off, and yet, SO DO TAILS, KNUCKLES AND SHADOW. Since SEGA and Nintendo are very close nowadays and Sonic's returning, I can see possibly including Tails, over Shadow, Knuckles, Eggman or anybody else. However, it seems fit to say that if SEGA, who entered Brawl last-moment, gets a 2nd representative, so should Konami, who was there from the start. The problem is, Metal Gear Solid doesn't have too many characters that can enter the ring and will get amazing uproar. Sonic's cast does. Out of all the third-party characters I stated above, Sonic is probably the most popular and has the most diverse cast to choose from. Yet, how is it fair to Konami or Capcom that SEGA, who started out as Nintendo's rival and only stopped fighting against them around, say, the GameCube era, yet the others have supported Nintendo from the start, with Castlevania, Bomberman, Ghosts N' Goblins, Mega Man and others? Because SEGA's not known for it's franchises, it doesn't have too many popular series well-known to the public besides Sonic. So, I'm not AGAINST Tails. I just kind of deem him unlikely and think that if we get another SEGA rep, we need another Konami rep.

 

[APC99]

Gah, double post.



I'm still a supporter, though. I like Tails, he's just got to get in with a Konami character.

 

[volbound1700]

I agree that Sakurai would likely prefer a main character over supporting character. My point is that there is no actual quote anywhere from Nintendo that states only one character per third party series or third party company.

People on here act like it is a law but there is no evidence to back it. If Sakurai wants Tails, he may get it. The development team of Melee stated they wanted to add Sonic and Tails both so there is some evidence that in the past, they looked at supporting characters.

 

[Ryan.]

Tails seems like he would be a good fit in Smash, and wouldn't be a clone. He's my favorite Sonic character and I think he's pretty well known, so if a second Sonic character were to be added he'd be my first pick.

 

[Wonks]

Sonic can be faced with the unenviable position of having to face Mario alongside one of his allies in Luigi, Peach, and Yoshi. If nothing else, Tails would expand on the "Mario vs Sonic" aspect from Brawl and allow us to play out the fantasy duel of Mario & Luigi vs. Sonic & Tails.

Although I don't think it will happen, I pictured his CG reveal going something like this:

Sonic is running through a forest when Luigi accidentally trips him (Luigi is disappointed for some reason, and does his "aw, shucks" taunt from Brawl). Sonic goes flying face-first across the grass and dirt. When he picks himself up and sees Luigi, he prepares attack him (Luigi, meanwhile, is noticeably scared of this impending battle). Suddenly, Mario appears to defend his brother. The two of them look confident as they now plan to double team the blue blur; Sonic's face is one of faux bravery, as some doubt creeps in.

As the three are still sizing each other up, a familiar "put-put-put-put" sound is heard by them (the sound of Tails' helicopter ability in Sonic 3 on Genesis). The camera shows that something is coming down from the sky. Tails lands next to Sonic, turns to the camera, gives a wave, and the still image of the new combatant appears with the tag-line: Tails Whips In!

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

I knew this would happen. As soon as that furry blue dude shows up, threads start popping up wanting even MOAR of those... those abominations in my beloved Nintendo game.

HAW!!! Don't look at me!

 

[Cpt.]

I'm sorry Tails just isn't Knuckles.

 

[RouffWestie]

I support Tails in Smash 4.

 

[SonicMario]

I don't think Tails has a chance for Smash 4. But I'm hoping Sonic Boom and whatever comes after gives him some momentum for a chance for the 5th Smash Bros. (I know Sakurai seems to count Wii U & 3DS as Smash 4 & 5, but I can't really go by that logic when obviously both games are going to have the same roster). With Tails playable in Sonic Boom, as long as playing as more then Sonic for once is received alot better then it was in Sonic 06 (Which that game is the reason most Sonic games have been Sonic only). We could see more Sonic games with more then just Sonic playable and not just in Sonic Boom. Also by the time Smash 5 comes around. Sonic will have been a 3rd Party almost twice as long as he's been on his own company's consoles (1991-2001, 10 Years. 2001- 2019/2020/2021, 18-20 years)

 

[Tree Gelbman]

I'm sorry Tails just isn't Knuckles.

No, he's not. He's someone more important to his series than Knuckles.

Don't crucify me. I like Knuckles too.

I support Tails. I support the expansion of third party franchises as long as the further reps from them are just as iconic to gaming on Nintendo systems as the first rep for that series.

And gee would you know what? Tails (and other classic Sonic characters) very much are.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

I don't see why everyone doesn't have high spirit! Tails has every right to be playable.

Tails is cool but not cool enough for SSB (playable).

Oh, you kids are cruisin for a bruisin! Tails is in every way possible cool enough for Smash!

Tails has no reason to be in any Smash Bros. Game. Sonic in Brawl was already enough and I rather have more famous Nintendo characters rather than 3rd Party ones before Smash becomes less of a Nintendo fighter and more of a "HEY WE GOT SOME RANDOM THIRD PARTY CHARACTER OH AND THAT MARIO GUY IS HERE TOO I GUESS" game.

You are cruisin for a bruisin! Tails has every reason to be in smash as playable.

 

[SonicMario]

Posting this here.

Spoiler: Read this if you want to hear the Winner before watching

Don't worry Tails fans. Tails wins.
If you're more of a Luigi fan though... Sorry, but I saw this coming... a Miles away

Maybe the fact I posted this in this thread in particular is a bit of a Spoiler on who wins. Because otherwise it'd be somewhat of a **** for me if I did post a vid where Tails was brutally killed. But yeah.

If anything though even if Tails did lose, he shows he can pretty kickass. And plenty of things that I didn't think about should he ever get the chance to be in Smash Bros. (Even if it's not likely for Smash 4 at this point)

 

[Altais]

Ever since I played Sonic the Hedgehog 2 back in the day (mine favourite Sonic game of all time), Tails has always been mine favourite Sega character of all time. He would definitely make a unique fighter if he did make it in Smash 4. He could make use of his many gadgets and toys in previous Sonic games, like his arm cannon in Sonic Battle. The only move I could see Tails sharing with Sonic is the down-special, Spin Dash.

That being said, as much as I would love to see Tails in Smash 4, I seriously doubt we will get a second character from any third-party franchise.

 

[StaffofSmashing]

Posting this here.

Spoiler: Read this if you want to hear the Winner before watching

Don't worry Tails fans. Tails wins.
If you're more of a Luigi fan though... Sorry, but I saw this coming... a Miles away

Maybe the fact I posted this in this thread in particular is a bit of a Spoiler on who wins. Because otherwise it'd be somewhat of a **** for me if I did post a vid where Tails was brutally killed. But yeah.

If anything though even if Tails did lose, he shows he can pretty kickass. And plenty of things that I didn't think about should he ever get the chance to be in Smash Bros. (Even if it's not likely for Smash 4 at this point)

KANTO STARTERS BATTLE ROYALE FINALLY CONFIRMED!

Anyway, the things such as Magic Hand and That cannon thingy work perfectly! Also bombs. Ya Tails SSB4

 

[Deleted member]

Tails and Robotnik are the only two Sonic reps I'd find acceptable. I always favoured Tails given the choice between him and Sonic, to be honest.

 

[Fastblade5035]

Let's face it, if Sonic ever got a second rep (And he won't) it would be Tails or Eggman.

Of course, like many others said, if Sonic became second or first party somehow in the future, I'd consider him a front runner amongst newcomers.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Tails can be playable, if he's in, he's probably gonna be revealed after the release of the game. The one thing that people don't understand is that the ties between SEGA and Nintendo are very strong, and Nintendo is highly supportive of Sonic, so yes, we can see Tails at the very least. Sakurai's not stupid, surely he acknowledges the strong ties between Nintendo and SEGA. There's also the high possibility of Nintendo buying SEGA in the future, so that would guarantee him for the 5th smash.