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ciaza

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Buying any cod for 1p is stupid, even MW2 was incredibly short albeit had some nice plot twists. Multiplayer is where it's at, and spec ops/zombies for when you have friends. (I don't play it very much, jks.)
 

SSBPete

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Do you Z cancel with R or something? The gayest ones to cancel for me are Kirby's drills. At least I always end up with a techchase though, which is good and bad.
i use R to z cancle. and i use it for all my arial attacks. i find it extremely convenient. especially when i'm djcing with yoshi; double tap C then double tap R as fast as i can.
 

chuckj

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I have a lot of trouble with z-canceling Pika's f-air (only when hitting someone), and u-airs really close to the ground. I can SH d-air fastfall u-air with Luigi now with about 60% consistency, but I only get the cancel about 20% of the time.
ithink pikachu up air doesnt need to be zcanceled :laugh:
 

ciaza

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Too bad MW2's online sucks too hard for anyone to care about it or take it seriously
Tell me about it, the maps are ridiculously huge and multilayered that it is a giant campfest. However I found if you switch to Gorund War it actuallt becomes playable, especially once you get a chopper gunner and swap their spawn points multiple times, hehe.

CoD4 is so much better though, but I think there must be about 2 people in Aus online.
 

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Also, who buys COD4 for the singleplayer...?
Buying any cod for 1p is stupid, even MW2 was incredibly short albeit had some nice plot twists. Multiplayer is where it's at, and spec ops/zombies for when you have friends. (I don't play it very much, jks.)
I dunno about you guys, but I've been a COD fan sense the first one came out. CoD2 had the best multiplayer. CoD4 had the best singleplayer. CoD4's singleplayer was a tremendous upgrade from the previous games(and from many fps games). It was like you were in a Movie. I literally Wow'd irl when the Nuke went off on that one mission. If MW2 has this same sort of SP, I'm definitely getting it for that.
As for multiplayer, CoD2's multiplayer was plain compared to the others (UO, CoD3, CoD4), but it was the most balanced, and most beastly, skill-wise. You could literally **** the entire team with any weapon, if you were good enough. It was also very easy to mod, lots of cool modded servers you could play on, I specifically liked the Realism Servers.
CoD4 however was almost a different game. The Perks and stuff were cool and all, but if you wanted to beast the opposing team, you'd have to play campy, and it was hard doing it with your weapon alone; you'd have to literally use this strategy, "get 5 kils, die, then airstrike, get 5 more kills, die, then airstrike....repeat" You can do it with the helicopter too, but the helicopter sucks, a good team can easily just shoot it down as soon as it appears. It's very fun when you first play it, then gets very boring after awhile.
As for Cod: WaW, I only played it a few times, and it's basically just CoD4 turned to WW2. Might as well be a mod. MW2 is the same as CoD4, with new levels, weapons, and features(lamer in some aspects). Lol off topic discussions :dizzy: :chuckle:

I have a lot of trouble with z-canceling Pika's f-air (only when hitting someone), and u-airs really close to the ground. I can SH d-air fastfall u-air with Luigi now with about 60% consistency, but I only get the cancel about 20% of the time.
Same for me with Pika's fair. I'd sometimes just end up doing a fastfall nair instead of a uair. I can usually cancel the aerials like 40-60% of the time.
 

ciaza

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Haha, Hi 5 for being off topic, and if you are in to SP, do go for MW2, because every mission is actionpacked, (think from that trailer when you jumped over a cliff to grab onto it with ice-pickes, missed, but Soap catches you in the last second.)

On topic, I actually find pika's fair easily cancelled, but fast-fall dair difficult. It really sucks when you show boat a stock by trying to do it everywhere in quick success, but then ram your head into the gorund instead.
 

dch111

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On topic, I actually find pika's fair easily cancelled, but fast-fall dair difficult. It really sucks when you show boat a stock by trying to do it everywhere in quick success, but then ram your head into the gorund instead.
:laugh: yeah, that is precisely where I have the problem (not during the actual battle surprisingly), every time I try to copy isai's victory dance around the hyrule platforms I always mess up some fastfalled dair retardedly.

In related news, I've been trying to get this DK celebration ritual down...as seen here: http://www.youtube.com/user/dch111#p/f/32/V3rXFLA8M94

the part where he Usmashes Link from the rapetent, and then proceeds to Nair his way up the platforms ending with a Usmash at the top. Looks so **** cool. I can never do it as quickly and flawlessly as he does it though. Guess those years of experience perfecting BtT/BtP times really pay off...
 

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:laugh: yeah, that is precisely where I have the problem (not during the actual battle surprisingly), every time I try to copy isai's victory dance around the hyrule platforms I always mess up some fastfalled dair retardedly.

In related news, I've been trying to get this DK celebration ritual down...as seen here: http://www.youtube.com/user/dch111#p/f/32/V3rXFLA8M94

the part where he Usmashes Link from the rapetent, and then proceeds to Nair his way up the platforms ending with a Usmash at the top. Looks so **** cool. I can never do it as quickly and flawlessly as he does it though. Guess those years of experience perfecting BtT/BtP times really pay off...
Wow it's crazy how you don't really notice this stuff until you try it.
 

dch111

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Yeah, years ago back when I was a noob I was amazed by Isai's videos. Now I'm still impressed because even though I've seen them already, I start noticing more neat things that I didn't notice when I was a noob. Part of why Isai's so popular is that he's fun to watch at all levels. And I can't say that about every good player. Then again, not everyone has as many videos up I suppose...
 

SSBPete

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Yeah, years ago back when I was a noob I was amazed by Isai's videos. Now I'm still impressed because even though I've seen them already, I start noticing more neat things that I didn't notice when I was a noob. Part of why Isai's so popular is that he's fun to watch at all levels. And I can't say that about every good player. Then again, not everyone has as many videos up I suppose...
this is exactly how i feel. i think now the most impresive player to watch is prince. i really wanna see prince vs isai.
 

dch111

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From the vids I've seen, Prince is cool when he lands a combo, but otherwise makes many mistakes. I will never not be entertained by a Prince combo vid though.

Currently my favorite matches to watch are maltfox and zenyore ones. Alancitu I thought I'd enjoy watching but for some reason I never really got into his vids. For me, they aren't as entertaining as they are educational. On the Japanese side Red mario, Sossi, and MEGU are also fun to watch
 

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Alancitu is pretty ridiculous but most of the matches uploaded on his account are old and bad video quality. My favorites though are the Alancitu practicing combo on CPU series. Also if you're looking for more Alancitu matches there are a bunch on this account uploaded 6 months ago.

http://www.youtube.com/user/newTXWproduction

The swedish vids are really good too.

But yeah it's funny that often when you try to do something that you see in a video there's a lot more nuance to getting it right.
 

SSBPete

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Speaking of prince heres a new video i added. I realized i made many mistakes with Yoshi such as using down+B during unnecessary times and I move slow with him but it was also because my joystick was hella loose

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpBf3Q6VLdc
you should start learning to djc now.
way too much uair and dair, use more bair and nair (considerable amount of difference against stronger players). not only unnecessary b-downs but too many aswell. a simple bair would kill on those %'s. once you get a bit better consider parries.

specifics:
0:33 had potential but didnt need to dash so much at the start. a quick turn b-down would've worked fine.
1:50 although he died anyway, u had an easy spike (fair).
2:12 you got lucky but those f-tilts were easily escapable. should've dash attacked after the first one.
2:35 dsmash or usmash, pivot fsmash could've worked but it needed to be much quicker.

overall fairly good yoshi. you have a lot of potential. good luck :D
 

dch111

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But yeah it's funny that often when you try to do something that you see in a video there's a lot more nuance to getting it right.
Totally. For example I'm pretty sure I know everything involved in getting that DK dance down: slanted full hop to canceled nair for the first platform, shielddrop to (slanted?) second jump to canceled nair for the other two. By "slanted" I mean the common trick where you hold left/right as you jump to shorten the jump instead of holding left/right after the jump input...the difference is subtle but important for Bonus levels and cool DKs. If they must be slanted to do it as fast as Isai did, that makes it a bit more difficult since you risk messing the nair up.

But knowing this I still can't get it down right, requiring more practice than I thought. I hope I'm not forgetting something. I tried it on my friends once but it was done too slow and they didn't even notice it.
 

dch111

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it's just normal standing sh nairs
Then why does he shield before each hop?

:confused:

DK's my favorite character...I should really know him better.

Edit: I've got it down, but with a high rate of failure because DK just BARELY makes each platform (especially the top one).
 
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