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That roster is for me really perfect!!

It covers a big part of the most celebrated SEGA properties!
Yup, that was my goal. But as it turns out, I put Bonanza Bros. on it twice, so I went ahead and added Toma from Shining Force EXA as an additional character. I also considered Ristar, but I think he'd look weird from behind, Neff from Altered Beast, though I didn't really think he'd fit well in a vehicle, and bringing Zobio and Zobiko back, but I really feel like House of the Dead works best with a track, because we're there for the environment, not the characters.
 
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Yup, that was my goal. But as it turns out, I put Bonanza Bros. on it twice, so I went ahead and added Toma from Shining Force EXA as an additional character. I also considered Ristar, but I think he'd look weird from behind, Neff from Altered Beast, though I didn't really think he'd fit well in a vehicle, and bringing Zobio and Zobiko back, but I really feel like House of the Dead works best with a track, because we're there for the environment, not the characters.
I completely agree with House Of The Dead working better as a track!

And yeah, Neff from Altered Beast may look kinda odd in a vehicle.
 

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From here.
It's funny. Ganondord did the same thing to Young Link, specifically in OOT. And did that to Zelda too apparently, when he took over the kingdom. Note that even with the split timelines about, he still killed the Deku Tree either way. So at most Zelda's father was spared. I mean, countless guards too at the castle, when he completely changed it. ...Maybe those Iron Knuckles are possessed guards? It's clearly a thing in canon, as Nabooru was an Iron Knuckle. And Twinrova taught Ganondorf magic.

You'd think he'd vouch for Ridley a little, since he ruined two people's lives. Ironically he didn't in Wind Waker and would've made more races live by reducing the waters. Since the waters killed most of the Gorons and forced the Zoras to evolve into Rito. We do see Rito and Zora can live separately too in BOTW, so the waters didn't actually do much beyond stop Ganondorf temporarily at best. What they needed was a hero again.
 
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:ulthero: is also on the dead parents club since him's die the exact day he is born due to monsters and the King of Heliodor getting possesed.
 

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I'll indulge you. I put together my dream roster for a third game in the series. That said, you know my more conservatist, "quality over quantity" style, so I limited myself to 40 characters total after DLC.

Basically, base roster is the size of Transformed's full roster, plus an additional six DLC characters. I trimmed the unnecessary fat (read: unneccessary and unfitting guest characters: Wreck-It Ralph, Danica Patrick, Yogscast, Team Fortress) and stuck to a few rules: One character per non-Sonic franchise as in the first game, any SEGA-owned property (including acquired ones like Atlus-owned series and Puyo Puyo) are allowed, what minimal guest characters are allowed must have at least some underlying history with SEGA or the SEGA brand, and also must be game characters, and absolutely no console-exclusive characters. Consumers should have access to the full package.

With that in mind, the roster is:
1. Sonic the Hedgehog
2. Miles "Tails" Prower
3. Knuckles the Echidna
4. Amy Rose
5. Shadow the Hedgehog
6. Rouge the Bat
7. Team Chaotix
8. Silver the Hedgehog
9. Dr. Eggman
10. AiAi
11. Amigo
12. Billy Hatcher
13. Beat
14. Ulala
15. Alex Kidd
16. Ryo Hazuki
17. Jacky & Akira
18. B.D. Joe
19. Vyse
20. Toma
21. ChuChus
22. Bonanza Bros.
23. Gilius Thunderhead
24. Joe Musashi
25. NiGHTS
26. Alis Landale
27. Kazuma Kiryu
28. Sakura Shinguji
29. Selvaria Bles
30. Arle Nadja
31. Segata Sanshiro/AGES
32. Toejam & Earl
33. Bayonetta
34. Joker

And the DLC consists of:
35. Metal Sonic
36. Blaze the Cat
37. Axel Stone
38. Earthworm Jim
39. Football Manager
40. Fan-Poll Character
So for Team Choatix, will you have Vector and Espio side by side with Charmy flying above them?
 

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I probably wasn't.

Would love to see the roster!
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A few things to note: If you've got a green border, you're a DLC character. If you have a yellow border, then you've got a "legacy" costume - something that transforms the character into a different one from their series with a similar body structure and a few minor gameplay tweaks.

In this case:
Bayonetta > Jeanne
Morrigan > Lilith
Sakura Shinguji > Sakura Amamiya
Agent G > Isaac Washington
Frank West > Chuck Greene
Ryu > Ken
NiGHTS > Reala
Phoenix Wright (& Maya Fey) > Apollo Justice (& Trucy Wright)

I also included theme music choices for everyone, MvC3 style.

Sonic's Theme (Base Form) - "Open Your Heart" from Sonic Adventure
Sonic's Theme (Super Sonic - Level 3 Hyper) - "Live and Learn" from Sonic Adventure 2
Tails' Theme - "Believe in Myself" from Sonic Adventure
Knuckles' Theme - "Unknown from M.E." from Sonic Adventure
Blaze's Theme - "Vela-Nova" from Sonic Rush
Shadow's Theme (Base Form) - "I Am... All of Me" from Shadow the Hedgehog
Shadow's Theme (Super Shadow - Level 3 Hyper) - "All Hail Shadow" from Sonic the Hedgehog 2006
Dr. Eggman's Theme - "E.G.G.M.A.N." from Sonic Adventure 2
Kazuma Kiryu's Theme - "Funk Goes On" from Yakuza/Yakuza Kiwami
Goro Majima's Theme - "Majima Battle" from Yakuza/Yakuza Kiwami
Akira Yuki's Theme - "Ride the Tiger" from Virtua Fighter 2
Jacky Bryant's Theme - "City (Jacky Bryant)" from Virtua Fighter 5
Bahn's Theme - "Bahn's Theme" from Fighting Vipers
Honey's Theme - "Honey's Theme" from Fighting Vipers
Sakura Shinguji's Theme - "Geki! Teikoku Kagekidan" from Sakura Wars
Gemini Sunrise's Theme - "Earth Warriors" from Sakura Wars: So Long, My Love
Joker's Theme - "Last Surprise" from Persona 5
Joker's Theme (Last Remaining Fighter) - "Life Will Change" from Persona 5
Yu Narukami's Theme - "Reach Out to the Truth" from Persona 4
Arle Nadja's Theme - "Arle's Theme" from Puyo Puyo
Bayonetta's Theme - "Tomorrow is Mine" from Bayonetta 2
G's Theme - "Tragedy - A.M.S. Agent" from The House of the Dead
Ryo Hazuki's Theme - "Main Theme" from Shenmue
Alis Landale's Theme - "Rise and Triumph" from Phantasy Star II
Vyse's Theme - "Vyse's Theme" from Skies of Arcadia
NiGHTS's Theme - "Message from Nightopia" from NiGHTS into Dreams
Gilius's Theme - "The Wilderness" from Golden Axe
Axel Stone's Theme - "Go Straight" from Streets of Rage 2
Joe Musashi's Theme - "Shinobi Theme" from Shinobi (3DS)
Selvaria Bles's Theme - "Valkyria Awakening" from Valkyria Chronicles
Segata Sanshiro's Theme - "Sega Saturn, Shiro! (Theme of Segata Sanshiro)

Mega Man's Theme - "Dr. Wily Stage 1" from Mega Man 2
Zero's Theme - "Theme of Zero" from Mega Man X
Tron Bonne's Theme - "Flutter vs. the Gesellschaft" from Mega Man Legends
Ryu's Theme - "Ryu Stage" from Street Fighter II
Chun-Li's Theme - "Chun-Li Stage" from Street Fighter II
Rashid's Theme - "Rashid's Theme" from Street Fighter V
Juri Han's Theme - "Juri's Theme" from Street Fighter IV
Leon Kennedy's Theme - "Theme of Leon (Mercenaries)" from Resident Evil 4
Nemesis's Theme - "Unstoppable Nemesis" from Resident Evil 3
Morrigan Aensland's Theme - "Morrigan Stage (Scotland)" from Darkstalkers
Felicia's Theme - "Felicia Stage (U.S.A.)" from Darkstalkers
Mike Haggar's Theme - "Theme of Haggar" from Saturday Night Slam Masters
Poison's Theme - "Metro City Slums" from Final Fight
Dante's Theme - "Devils Never Cry (Staff Roll)" from Devil May Cry 3
Vergil's Theme - "Vergil Battle 3" from Devil May Cry 3
Strider Hiryu's Theme - "Raid" from Strider
Katt's Theme - "Boss Battle 2" from Breath of Fire II
Amaterasu's Theme - "Rising Sun" from Okami
Frank West's Theme - "His Name's Frank" from Dead Rising 2: Off the Record
Monster Hunter's Theme - "Proof of a Hero" from Monster Hunter
Devilotte's Theme - "Super 8" from Cyberbots: Full Metal Madness
June Lin-Milliam's Theme - "Against the Absolute" from Plasma Sword 2/Star Gladiator 2
Akira Kazama's Theme - "At the Riverbed in Front of Evil High School" from Rival Schools
Sir Arthur's Theme - "Haunted Graveyard" from Ghosts 'N' Goblins
Asura's Theme - "Asura Unleashed" from Asura's Wrath
Edward Falcon's Theme - "Londo Stage" from Power Stone
Phoenix Wright's Theme - "Objection! 2001" from Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Phoenix Wright's Theme (Turnabout Mode) - "Pursuit - Cornered" from Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Captain Commando's Theme - "Stage 1 (City)" from Captain Commando

Makoto Yuki's Theme - "Mass Destruction" from Persona 3
Erica Fontaine's Theme - "Beneath the Flag" from Sakura Wars: Is Paris Burning?
Epsilon's Theme - "7th Force" from Alien Soldier
Ulala's Theme - "Mexican Flyer" from Space Channel 5
Beat's Theme - "The Concept of Love" from Jet Set Radio Future
Neff's Theme - "Graveyard" from Altered Beast
Larcen's Theme - "Larcen Stage" from Eternal Champions
Vectorman's Theme - "Terraport - Day 6" from Vectorman
Sketch Turner's Theme - "Episode 1, Page 1-1" from Comix Zone
Shogun's Theme - "Main Theme" from Total War: Shogun II

Jedah Dohma's Theme - "Fetus of God" from Darkstalkers 3
Albert Wesker's Theme - "Wind of Madness" from Resident Evil 5
Regina's Theme - "Regina's Challenge" from Dino Crisis 2
Jin Saotome's Theme - "Megalopolis" from Cyberbots: Full Metal Madness
Gene's Theme - "Gene's Rock-A-Bye" from God Hand
Zangief's Theme - "Zangief Stage" from Street Fighter II
Firebrand's Theme - "Introduction" from Gargoyle's Quest
Viewtiful Joe's Theme - "Joe the Hero" from Viewtiful Joe
Simon Blackquill's Theme - "Simon Blackquill - Twisted Samurai" from Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies
Lady's Theme - "Lady Battle" from Devil May Cry 3
 

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I got a question for you guys based on the video below (you might want to make some popcorn.)
Do you agree with this guy's criticisms on Sword and Shield and if not, what do you disagree with and why?
I cannot answer this myself due to me not playing these games (the controversies scared me off.)
My opinion on Sword and Shield remains the same.

Sword and Shield is NOT a bad game, not at all. The problem is that The Pokemon Company is rolling in it. I’m talking they have literally one of the biggest multimedia franchises that is only rivaled by that of Marvel and Star Wars and could legitimately drop a couple billion dollars on a Pokémon Game project and still pull a hefty profit and yet we still, 24 Years later, task one of Nintendo’s smallest teams with taking over the near entirety of the project with only assistance by other, smaller, teams and thus we end up with games that are smaller and overall more disappointing than can be reasonably expected for a franchise of Pokémon’s caliber.

Pokémon CAN be done better, CAN be done bigger, CAN be revolutionary once more, but because of the truth spoken by everyone “People will buy it no matter what” we are stuck with ONLY Game Freak and Creatures doing ALL the work on EVERY Pokémon game when reasonably multiple other studios could assist as well, including Nintendo themselves and make a truly revolutionary game but they just don’t. Really even without the studios all that I think Creatures and Game Freak could make a truly spectacular Pokémon game but one of the biggest things is they don’t have the time. With releases every year, two years of lucky, there really isn’t enough time to really push Game Freaks true potential.
 

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I'll indulge you. I put together my dream roster for a third game in the series. That said, you know my more conservatist, "quality over quantity" style, so I limited myself to 40 characters total after DLC.

Basically, base roster is the size of Transformed's full roster, plus an additional six DLC characters. I trimmed the unnecessary fat (read: unneccessary and unfitting guest characters: Wreck-It Ralph, Danica Patrick, Yogscast, Team Fortress) and stuck to a few rules: One character per non-Sonic franchise as in the first game, any SEGA-owned property (including acquired ones like Atlus-owned series and Puyo Puyo) are allowed, what minimal guest characters are allowed must have at least some underlying history with SEGA or the SEGA brand, and also must be game characters, and absolutely no console-exclusive characters. Consumers should have access to the full package.

With that in mind, the roster is:
1. Sonic the Hedgehog
2. Miles "Tails" Prower
3. Knuckles the Echidna
4. Amy Rose
5. Shadow the Hedgehog
6. Rouge the Bat
7. Team Chaotix
8. Silver the Hedgehog
9. Dr. Eggman
10. AiAi
11. Amigo
12. Billy Hatcher
13. Beat
14. Ulala
15. Alex Kidd
16. Ryo Hazuki
17. Jacky & Akira
18. B.D. Joe
19. Vyse
20. Toma
21. ChuChus
22. Bonanza Bros.
23. Gilius Thunderhead
24. Joe Musashi
25. NiGHTS
26. Alis Landale
27. Kazuma Kiryu
28. Sakura Shinguji
29. Selvaria Bles
30. Arle Nadja
31. Segata Sanshiro/AGES
32. Toejam & Earl
33. Bayonetta
34. Joker

And the DLC consists of:
35. Metal Sonic
36. Blaze the Cat
37. Axel Stone
38. Earthworm Jim
39. Football Manager
40. Fan-Poll Character
While it's a little small for my tastes, I wouldn't complain about this roster. It's very good and covers a lot of bases.

But as an aside, indulge me? I thought we were friends?
 

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While it's a little small for my tastes, I wouldn't complain about this roster. It's very good and covers a lot of bases.

But as an aside, indulge me? I thought we were friends?
Indulge wasn't the right word; I meant "humor you."

But uh... Snake, even with these fake rosters, I have to inject a dose of realism. Smash Ultimate is the exception, not the norm. Not every roster can be so big.
 
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A few things to note: If you've got a green border, you're a DLC character. If you have a yellow border, then you've got a "legacy" costume - something that transforms the character into a different one from their series with a similar body structure and a few minor gameplay tweaks.

In this case:
Bayonetta > Jeanne
Morrigan > Lilith
Sakura Shinguji > Sakura Amamiya
Agent G > Isaac Washington
Frank West > Chuck Greene
Ryu > Ken
NiGHTS > Reala
Phoenix Wright (& Maya Fey) > Apollo Justice (& Trucy Wright)

I also included theme music choices for everyone, MvC3 style.

Sonic's Theme (Base Form) - "Open Your Heart" from Sonic Adventure
Sonic's Theme (Super Sonic - Level 3 Hyper) - "Live and Learn" from Sonic Adventure 2
Tails' Theme - "Believe in Myself" from Sonic Adventure
Knuckles' Theme - "Unknown from M.E." from Sonic Adventure
Blaze's Theme - "Vela-Nova" from Sonic Rush
Shadow's Theme (Base Form) - "I Am... All of Me" from Shadow the Hedgehog
Shadow's Theme (Super Shadow - Level 3 Hyper) - "All Hail Shadow" from Sonic the Hedgehog 2006
Dr. Eggman's Theme - "E.G.G.M.A.N." from Sonic Adventure 2
Kazuma Kiryu's Theme - "Funk Goes On" from Yakuza/Yakuza Kiwami
Goro Majima's Theme - "Majima Battle" from Yakuza/Yakuza Kiwami
Akira Yuki's Theme - "Ride the Tiger" from Virtua Fighter 2
Jacky Bryant's Theme - "City (Jacky Bryant)" from Virtua Fighter 5
Bahn's Theme - "Bahn's Theme" from Fighting Vipers
Honey's Theme - "Honey's Theme" from Fighting Vipers
Sakura Shinguji's Theme - "Geki! Teikoku Kagekidan" from Sakura Wars
Gemini Sunrise's Theme - "Earth Warriors" from Sakura Wars: So Long, My Love
Joker's Theme - "Last Surprise" from Persona 5
Joker's Theme (Last Remaining Fighter) - "Life Will Change" from Persona 5
Yu Narukami's Theme - "Reach Out to the Truth" from Persona 4
Arle Nadja's Theme - "Arle's Theme" from Puyo Puyo
Bayonetta's Theme - "Tomorrow is Mine" from Bayonetta 2
G's Theme - "Tragedy - A.M.S. Agent" from The House of the Dead
Ryo Hazuki's Theme - "Main Theme" from Shenmue
Alis Landale's Theme - "Rise and Triumph" from Phantasy Star II
Vyse's Theme - "Vyse's Theme" from Skies of Arcadia
NiGHTS's Theme - "Message from Nightopia" from NiGHTS into Dreams
Gilius's Theme - "The Wilderness" from Golden Axe
Axel Stone's Theme - "Go Straight" from Streets of Rage 2
Joe Musashi's Theme - "Shinobi Theme" from Shinobi (3DS)
Selvaria Bles's Theme - "Valkyria Awakening" from Valkyria Chronicles
Segata Sanshiro's Theme - "Sega Saturn, Shiro! (Theme of Segata Sanshiro)

Mega Man's Theme - "Dr. Wily Stage 1" from Mega Man 2
Zero's Theme - "Theme of Zero" from Mega Man X
Tron Bonne's Theme - "Flutter vs. the Gesellschaft" from Mega Man Legends
Ryu's Theme - "Ryu Stage" from Street Fighter II
Chun-Li's Theme - "Chun-Li Stage" from Street Fighter II
Rashid's Theme - "Rashid's Theme" from Street Fighter V
Juri Han's Theme - "Juri's Theme" from Street Fighter IV
Leon Kennedy's Theme - "Theme of Leon (Mercenaries)" from Resident Evil 4
Nemesis's Theme - "Unstoppable Nemesis" from Resident Evil 3
Morrigan Aensland's Theme - "Morrigan Stage (Scotland)" from Darkstalkers
Felicia's Theme - "Felicia Stage (U.S.A.)" from Darkstalkers
Mike Haggar's Theme - "Theme of Haggar" from Saturday Night Slam Masters
Poison's Theme - "Metro City Slums" from Final Fight
Dante's Theme - "Devils Never Cry (Staff Roll)" from Devil May Cry 3
Vergil's Theme - "Vergil Battle 3" from Devil May Cry 3
Strider Hiryu's Theme - "Raid" from Strider
Katt's Theme - "Boss Battle 2" from Breath of Fire II
Amaterasu's Theme - "Rising Sun" from Okami
Frank West's Theme - "His Name's Frank" from Dead Rising 2: Off the Record
Monster Hunter's Theme - "Proof of a Hero" from Monster Hunter
Devilotte's Theme - "Super 8" from Cyberbots: Full Metal Madness
June Lin-Milliam's Theme - "Against the Absolute" from Plasma Sword 2/Star Gladiator 2
Akira Kazama's Theme - "At the Riverbed in Front of Evil High School" from Rival Schools
Sir Arthur's Theme - "Haunted Graveyard" from Ghosts 'N' Goblins
Asura's Theme - "Asura Unleashed" from Asura's Wrath
Edward Falcon's Theme - "Londo Stage" from Power Stone
Phoenix Wright's Theme - "Objection! 2001" from Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Phoenix Wright's Theme (Turnabout Mode) - "Pursuit - Cornered" from Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Captain Commando's Theme - "Stage 1 (City)" from Captain Commando

Makoto Yuki's Theme - "Mass Destruction" from Persona 3
Erica Fontaine's Theme - "Beneath the Flag" from Sakura Wars: Is Paris Burning?
Epsilon's Theme - "7th Force" from Alien Soldier
Ulala's Theme - "Mexican Flyer" from Space Channel 5
Beat's Theme - "The Concept of Love" from Jet Set Radio Future
Neff's Theme - "Graveyard" from Altered Beast
Larcen's Theme - "Larcen Stage" from Eternal Champions
Vectorman's Theme - "Terraport - Day 6" from Vectorman
Sketch Turner's Theme - "Episode 1, Page 1-1" from Comix Zone
Shogun's Theme - "Main Theme" from Total War: Shogun II

Jedah Dohma's Theme - "Fetus of God" from Darkstalkers 3
Albert Wesker's Theme - "Wind of Madness" from Resident Evil 5
Regina's Theme - "Regina's Challenge" from Dino Crisis 2
Jin Saotome's Theme - "Megalopolis" from Cyberbots: Full Metal Madness
Gene's Theme - "Gene's Rock-A-Bye" from God Hand
Zangief's Theme - "Zangief Stage" from Street Fighter II
Firebrand's Theme - "Introduction" from Gargoyle's Quest
Viewtiful Joe's Theme - "Joe the Hero" from Viewtiful Joe
Simon Blackquill's Theme - "Simon Blackquill - Twisted Samurai" from Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies
Lady's Theme - "Lady Battle" from Devil May Cry 3
All in all It is a really nice roster too!

If we do get assists in the style of MvC1, I could see Alex Kidd being one of those due to the simple moveset he has in his main games. Maybe Billy Hatcher too.
 

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Indulge wasn't the right word; I meant "humor you."

But uh... Snake, even with these fake rosters, I have to inject a dose of realism. Smash Ultimate is the exception, not the norm. Not every roster can be so big.
I know that. I just went and trimmed a bunch of fat on mine. It's sitting at 84 and that's with the caviot that it's reusing every asset from the last 3 Sumo Digital Racers. I've been making an effort to try to reign myself in in recent roster projects. That being said, especially for a kart racer where a lot of the characters in it have already been done before and require WAY less work then a fighting game character, I think they can be a bit bigger then 40 characters total.
 

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All in all It is a really nice roster too!

If we do get assists in the style of MvC1, I could see Alex Kidd being one of those due to the simple moveset he has in his main games. Maybe Billy Hatcher too.
I wanted to include characters who I felt could fit more naturally into a more traditional fighting game as opposed to a more Smash-Bros. style game (which is one reason I included Blaze at all), which is why you're seeing less "cartoony" characters. I personally love Super Monkey Ball, but I couldn't in good faith put AiAi there, for example.

I figured it would play more in line with MvC2/MvC3/MvCI style.
 
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I wanted to include characters who I felt could fit more naturally into a more traditional fighting game as opposed to a more Smash-Bros. style game (which is one reason I included Blaze at all), which is why you're seeing less "cartoony" characters. I personally love Super Monkey Ball, but I couldn't in good faith put AiAi there, for example.

I figured it would play more in line with MvC2/MvC3/MvCI style.
Then I am fine with the lack of presence of Alex Kidd and Billy if you go with the style of later MvC games.

With that in mind, I really like your roster!!!
 

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I know that. I just went and trimmed a bunch of fat on mine. It's sitting at 84 and that's with the caviot that it's reusing every asset from the last 3 Sumo Digital Racers. I've been making an effort to try to reign myself in in recent roster projects. That being said, especially for a kart racer where a lot of the characters in it have already been done before and require WAY less work then a fighting game character, I think they can be a bit bigger then 40 characters total.
Even if you're reusing assets, you still have to do updates to the models and animations or risk coming off as lazy. Take Mario Kart 8 and Deluxe as an example. Even in deluxe we only got five new characters (though we admittedly probably could've gotten more if they'd added less tracks). And on that list, which is one of the biggest rosters in a racing game and reused/updates a lot of pre-existing assets, we still only have a roster of 42 (not including alternate costumes). And that's with Nintendo money backing for it. SEGA doesn't have the same legacy behind them (despite their list of IPs).
 

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:ulthero: is also on the dead parents club since him's die the exact day he is born due to monsters and the King of Heliodor getting possesed.
I mean kinda? He still has his adoptive parent of Amber, and Rab is still alive and well, so he does have parents.

Though his biological parents, yeah, dead as hell. Same with Chalky.
 
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Even if you're reusing assets, you still have to do updates to the models and animations or risk coming off as lazy. Take Mario Kart 8 and Deluxe as an example. Even in deluxe we only got five new characters (though we admittedly probably could've gotten more if they'd added less tracks). And on that list, which is one of the biggest rosters in a racing game and reused/updates a lot of pre-existing assets, we still only have a roster of 42 (not including alternate costumes). And that's with Nintendo money backing for it. SEGA doesn't have the same legacy behind them (despite their list of IPs).
They didn't add any new tracks to deluxe. They added a handfull of battle arenas.... or maybe all of them, was battle mode new in deluxe? But the only tracks in 8 Deluxe are the ones from the Wii U game.
 

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Indulge wasn't the right word; I meant "humor you."

But uh... Snake, even with these fake rosters, I have to inject a dose of realism. Smash Ultimate is the exception, not the norm. Not every roster can be so big.
Doesn't stop me with my ideal Super Smash Bros. vs. Jump Stars game.
 

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Indulge wasn't the right word; I meant "humor you."

But uh... Snake, even with these fake rosters, I have to inject a dose of realism. Smash Ultimate is the exception, not the norm. Not every roster can be so big.
That’s kinda the approach I take with some of my fan project ideas, I don’t want to overbloat an game I have in mind, but I wanna get as much material as I can while still keeping somewhat realistic expectations, and for the most part I feel like I’m getting better with that.
 

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I mean kinda? He still has his adoptive parent of Amber, and Rab is still alive and well, so he does have parents.

Though his biological parents, yeah, dead as hell. Same with Chalky.
Samus was also raised by the Chozo later. Batman with his butler as a parental substitute. Superman's original parents died, but his adoptive human parents are usually alive in each adaption.

It's common enough. Besides, the actual point was people lost their parents or parental substitutes. Having new ones doesn't mean they didn't lose them. Young Link is an odd one where he lost both. We don't know what happened to his mom, but she's outright gone either way. And then he lost his adoptive dad in the Deku Tree. So... there's some interesting examples of how bad it can get, heh.
 

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That’s kinda the approach I take with some of my fan project ideas, I don’t want to overbloat an game I have in mind, but I wanna get as much material as I can while still keeping somewhat realistic expectations, and for the most part I feel like I’m getting better with that.
I admit that my habit of making 80 character rosters is ridiculous. But I still think 50-60 is a reasonable ammount for any project post-DLC.
 

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Trying to think of something to watch, so I'll try to get a discussion going: what are your favourite action movies?

I'm a big Ahnold fan, so Terminator 2: Judgement Day, Predator, and Commando are definitely up there for me.
 
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Trying to think of something to watch, so I'll try to get a discussion going: what are your favourite action movies?

I'm a big Ahnold fan, so Terminator 2: Judgement Day, Predator, and Commando are definitely up there for me.
Among my favs would have to be Cliffhanger, Cobra, RoboCop 1, 2 & 3 and Fast and Furious films.
 
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Trying to think of something to watch, so I'll try to get a discussion going: what are your favourite action movies?

I'm a big Ahnold fan, so Terminator 2: Judgement Day, Predator, and Commando are definitely up there for me.
My favourite action movies are Robocop 1, Predator, the original Transformers animated movie, Bumblebee, Godzilla vs Megalon, Godzilla King Of The Monsters, Rambo and Creed.
 

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My favourite action movies are Robocop 1, Predator, the original Transformers animated movie, Bumblebee, Godzilla vs Megalon, Godzilla King Of The Monsters, Rambo and Creed.
Are the last 3 really considered action? I always considered giant monsters its own genre and Creed more of an drama given its about Boxing and that's what Rocky was mostly about then anything.
 

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Among my favs would have to be Cliffhanger, Cobra, RoboCop 1, 2 & 3 and Fast and Furious films.
Out of that list, I've only seen Robocop 1, the seventh and eighth Fast and Furious movies, and Hobbes and Shaw - I've been meaning to watch Cobra for a while, but I wasn't sure if Robocop 2 and 3 were good or "so bad it's good". I'll have to watch the second one some time, at least.

I've thought about watching the first Fast and Furious movie, to see where the series started and how it got to Idris Elba as a nanomachine-powered cyborg declaring that he's black Superman.
 
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I admit that my habit of making 80 character rosters is ridiculous. But I still think 50-60 is a reasonable ammount for any project post-DLC.
Depends on the project. Though in my case, I try to aim around that area.
-My Sonic fighting game has 33 characters I want to prioritize but with the other potential characters I had in mind, it only hits 45
-My MKart9 roster has 48 at base with a large number of possibilities for DLC
-My Smash-style Pokémon fighter probably has the most with 68 at base and potentially 8 open slots more for DLC
 

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Depends on the project. Though in my case, I try to aim around that area.
-My Sonic fighting game has 33 characters I want to prioritize but with the other potential characters I had in mind, it only hits 45
-My MKart9 roster has 48 at base with a large number of possibilities for DLC
-My Smash-style Pokémon fighter probably has the most with 68 at base and potentially 8 open slots more for DLC
I suppose. It's just, as someone who is pretty much a Laurie Loner in every game, more characters means more game play time and I'm always gonna want a lot.
 

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Out of that list, I've only seen Robocop 1, the seventh and eighth Fast and Furious movies, and Hobbes and Shaw - I've been meaning to watch Cobra for a while, but I wasn't sure if Robocop 2 and 3 were good or "so bad it's good". I'll have to watch the second one some time, at least.

I've thought about watching the first Fast and Furious movie, to see where the series started and how it got to Idris Elba as a nanomachine-powered cyborg declaring that he's black Superman.
Its amazing how the Fast and Furious series started. It began about stealing VHS players from racing to suddenly government spies preventing WWIII to eventually cybernetically enhanced superbeings.

So dumb I love it!

As for RoboCop 2 and 3. I enjoyed those two. 2 I think is an underrated sequel and although people did not like 3, I personally think its an timewaster at best. Definitely a lot better then the 2014 remake.
 

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My favourite action movies are Robocop 1, Predator, the original Transformers animated movie, Bumblebee, Godzilla vs Megalon, Godzilla King Of The Monsters, Rambo and Creed.
Oddly enough, Bumblebee and the original animated movie are two of the few Transformers movies that I haven't seen. (I watched the first four Michael Bay ones) I've heard that Bumblebee was supposed to be better, but I don't remember why I didn't get around to watching it.

I haven't seen a Godzilla movie before; not sure which one I should start with.
 
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Oddly enough, Bumblebee and the original animated movie are two of the few Transformers movies that I haven't seen. (I watched the first four Michael Bay ones) I've heard that Bumblebee was supposed to be better, but I don't remember why I didn't get around to watching it.

I haven't seen a Godzilla movie before; not sure which one I should start with.
I watched Bumblebee some weeks ago and I can confirm It is really good.

Not just because of the wonderful intro scene at Cybertron, but also because all the characters are actually well written and the action scenes have better direction (there's never a point where you get Lost during the fights and can't see who is who).

My only nitpick is that sometimes It reminded me too much of the Iron Giant but other than that I would really reccomend It if you want a Transformers movie which takes a lot of stuff from the 80s incarnations really well and develops the characters great!



Regarding Godzilla there's two ways to go with It: if you want a more serious movie start with the original 1950s movie or Shin Godzilla and if you want a more campy and silly movie I personally suggest Godzilla vs Megalon. Not the pinneacle of writting and has a lot of silly moments (such as Godzilla sliding with his tail), but still a really fun and enjoyable time.
 
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