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[Aurane]

@noobde I just thought of a really cool Injustice 3 guest character. pic.twitter.com/C2Ri16TuL5

— Jennifer Griel (@KombatLeaguer) December 11, 2019

I just tweeted this at Ed Boon. Someone bookmark this in case it actually happens in Injustice 3.

>Batman vs Sauron

Oh. Its gonna be one of those days.

 

[drag0nscythe]

Kind of a big difference between those games and Death Stranding.

Those games were "hey, influencer/creator of this franchise you love, here to bring you a spiritual successor to said franchise", as opposed to "hey, Hideo Kojima here, here's this game I made that I won't tell you anything about and you're only going to like because I made it."

I do not see the difference here. Deltaruine was exactly that. Any new IP from any studio has this same thing. All Suda51 games fall into this. You liked Killer 7. Well try no more heroes. Same creator.

Business as usual.

 

[Aurane]

The only thing I have to take from this is that the game is called Deltarune, not Deltaruine.

Deltarune ruined nothing. It blessed us with Ralsei, God dammit.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

>Batman vs Sauron

Oh. Its gonna be one of those days.

Injustice already doesn’t give a crap about stuff like that. They just hand wave how joker can fight superman without instantly dying thanks to a magic super drug. They can hand wave Sauron’s absurd power levels too.

 

[Deleted member]

I do not see the difference here. Deltaruine was exactly that. Any new IP from any studio has this same thing. All Suda51 games fall into this. You liked Killer 7. Well try no more heroes. Same creator.

Business as usual.

The difference between Deltarune and Death Stranding is that Deltarune was intentionally released in an elaborate prank, to garner support and gauge interests, while also letting everyone know it was being developed.

Can't speak that much of Death Stranding, but as far as I can tell, it is devoid of any purpose for releasing the way it did.

 

[drag0nscythe]

The difference between Deltarune and Death Stranding is that Deltarune was intentionally released in an elaborate prank, to garner support and gauge interests, while also letting everyone know it was being developed.

Can't speak that much of Death Stranding, but as far as I can tell, it is devoid of any purpose for releasing the way it did.

It had hype and was released. What is there to talk about? It was business doing business.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Smash idea. Arle Nadja gets in with an echo fighter, Tee from Puyo Puyo x Tetris. They both have the same puzzle block oriented moveset, but one uses Puyos and the other Tetraminos. And that way we can get a Tetris character who’s an actual.... character.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Currently listening to the Oogie Boogie song from The Nightmare Before Christmas.

 

[Deleted member]

It had hype and was released. What is there to talk about? It was business doing business.

I dunno what you're trying to say.
My point is that Deltarune was released in a unique way, meant to be abnormal.
Death Stranding, from my limited knowledge, is devoid of anything, really. You apparently play as a mailman and...a..a...literal.....fetus? wat?
Yeah, it seems pretty bad to me.

 

[Aurane]

The only thing I know about Death Stranding is that it's has a really funny Rick and Morty commercial.

 

[drag0nscythe]

I dunno what you're trying to say.
My point is that Deltarune was released in a unique way, meant to be abnormal.
Death Stranding, from my limited knowledge, is devoid of anything, really. You apparently play as a mailman and...a..a...literal.....fetus? wat?
Yeah, it seems pretty bad to me.

That is changing the topic. Deltaruine was released and promoted with "from the creator of undertale".

Death standing is the same. We are not talking about the game quality itself.

 

[ColietheGoalie]

I want to play Death Stranding because it's some kind of big-budget post-apocalyptic Lovecraftian sci-fi arthouse thing shrouded in mystery, and that stands out as pretty darn unique compared to anything else on the market right now.

Experiencing an expertly-crafted unique world seems worth it, especially since I'm fine with slower paced gameplay.

 

[Aurane]

Deltaruine

Okay really, is this intentional or is your finger married to the I button?

 

[Deleted member]

That is changing the topic. Deltaruine was released and promoted with "from the creator of undertale".

Death standing is the same. We are not talking about the game quality itself.

****, didn't read the context. my b


Anyway, the main difference there is that Toby Fox has shown he's a competent developer, and Undertale is proof of that.
Unless I'm mistaken, Kojima is one of those "famous because he works on X series' kinda developers", similar to some of the Pokemon devs like Masuda. Nothing in Kojima's list of games he's worked on really stand out to me, tbh.

And I know what you're thinking right now, you're gonna say "But just because Toby Fox hit it rich with Undertale, doesn't mean his games are good!"
My point is that just being a famous dev doesn't necessarily mean your games are good; You have to prove that yourself.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

If we don't get FP5 revealed tomorrow.

 

[ColietheGoalie]

****, didn't read the context. my b


Anyway, the main difference there is that Toby Fox has shown he's a competent developer, and Undertale is proof of that.
Unless I'm mistaken, Kojima is one of those "famous because he works on X series' kinda developers", similar to some of the Pokemon devs like Masuda. Nothing in Kojima's list of games he's worked on really stand out to me, tbh.

And I know what you're thinking right now, you're gonna say "But just because Toby Fox hit it rich with Undertale, doesn't mean his games are good!"
My point is that just being a famous dev doesn't necessarily mean your games are good; You have to prove that yourself.

I've never even played a Kojima game, but even I know he's considered an influential developer who's willing to take big risks. The Metal Gear games are hugely popular as well.

As nice as people seem to think Undertale is, I wouldn't even put them in the same category just yet.

 

[Aurane]

If we don't get FP5 revealed tomorrow.

Considering how jacked up you are about the entire thing, I actually believe this.

 

[drag0nscythe]

****, didn't read the context. my b


Anyway, the main difference there is that Toby Fox has shown he's a competent developer, and Undertale is proof of that.
Unless I'm mistaken, Kojima is one of those "famous because he works on X series' kinda developers", similar to some of the Pokemon devs like Masuda. Nothing in Kojima's list of games he's worked on really stand out to me, tbh.

And I know what you're thinking right now, you're gonna say "But just because Toby Fox hit it rich with Undertale, doesn't mean his games are good!"
My point is that just being a famous dev doesn't necessarily mean your games are good; You have to prove that yourself.

Kojima has a pedigree. Metal gear, snatcher, pt. All really good. He was influential in many aspects for the industry. If we will talk quality, kojima does have hit and misses.

For toby. He has one. Lets give him time to see if it was lightning in a bottle.
I was not impressed with tobys offerings so far. I see lots of promise though.

I am not interested in deltaruine though. I would give undertale a 6/10. Music is really good though. He is an expert musician.

 

[Aurane]

deltaruine

Okay yeah so it is intentional.

Good talk.

 

[drag0nscythe]

Okay yeah so it is intentional.

Good talk.

Was not at the beginning. But then you pointed it out and your reactions were amusing. so I started fudging it.

 

[Aurane]

Was not at the beginning. But then you pointed it out and your reactions were amusing. so I started fudging it.

I figured as much. You did it twice before I said anything, so I thought that it was some form of new movement or some ****.

But nope, you just can't get away from that I. The truest Smashboards lovestory.

 

[Slime Master]

The difference between Death Stranding and Deltarune is that one of them has multiple TGA nominations despite a very recent release and mixed reception, while the other never got that treatment. I haven't played either myself, but it's pretty undeniable that Death Stranding is getting more privileged treatment right now than Deltarune ever did.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

The difference between Death Stranding and Deltarune is that one of them has multiple TGA nominations despite a very recent release and mixed reception, while the other never got that treatment. I haven't played either myself, but it's pretty undeniable that Death Stranding is getting more privileged treatment right now than Deltarune ever did.

That's because it's Kojima. I love the dude, but this is his weakest game by far, and yet, it's one of his games so people feel like they're obligated to nominate it.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

That's because it's Kojima. I love the dude, but this is his weakest game by far, and yet, it's one of his games so people feel like they're obligated to nominate it.

Let’s hope people don’t feel obligated to vote for it. If Ultimate doesn’t win game of the year.... there will be hell to pay.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Let’s hope people don’t feel obligated to vote for it. If Ultimate doesn’t win game of the year.... there will be hell to pay.

I mean Control won IGN's Game of the Year, which Control from what little I heard about it was collectively considered a mediocre game, Death Stranding being the only Playstation Exclusive nominee matched with Playstation's overwhelming "Playstation is God" Stans makes it more likely than you might think.

Looks like this is just going to be a super divisive year when 2, largely considered mediocre games are racking of GotY wins while DMC5 isn't even nominated most the time.

 

[Deleted member]

Currently at chinese class.

I think I am falling into madness from trying to look a word I can't find anywhere on my notes.

 

[Dutch Raikuna]

That's because it's Kojima. I love the dude, but this is his weakest game by far, and yet, it's one of his games so people feel like they're obligated to nominate it.

I personally like to think about Death Stranding as this; as a concept and experiment it is great but as an actual game its meh. I see what Kojima was aiming for but it felt lacking.
Overly nominated and and annoyed it if gets
Best music - KH3 should win it, Yoko Shimomura is an amazing composer and Dearly Beloved is a masterpiece. While DS had good licensed music only two or so tracks are at least good.
Game of the Year - Smash Bros, Resi 2 and The Outer Worlds should win.
I do want it to win Best Performance and Narrative but that's it.

 

[drag0nscythe]

Fans of Ace Attorney might want to check this switch title out when it is released.

 

[Raxxel]

Finally got the chance to play SamSho on someone's switch setup.

Darli Dagger is amazing. This game is stupid fun.

Yeah, I kind of lost a bit of respect for Kojima after that. Especially since he tried to blame fps’s for the games lackluster performance instead of the fact that it’s just not fun. No way this thing wins any awards.

Sauron. The main villain from Lord of the Rings.

Oh it will win awards because Geoff is not only Kojima's buddy, but he is in the game as well. Don't be surprised if it gets GOTY tomorrow.

I do not see the difference here. Deltaruine was exactly that. Any new IP from any studio has this same thing. All Suda51 games fall into this. You liked Killer 7. Well try no more heroes. Same creator.

Business as usual.

How is Deltarune exactly the same thing when Deltarune was a surprise release? It couldn't market itself because there was no marketing, as opposed to almost 2 years of marketing for Death Stranding where nothing was actually made concrete about the game aside from Hideo making it. Also, there's levels to this. There's introducing a game with its creator and then laying out what it's about, both story and gameplay wise, and then there's introducing the game with its creator and keeping it insanely ambiguous with the only thing selling it being "Hideo Kojima made it".

 

[drag0nscythe]

Finally got the chance to play SamSho on someone's switch setup.

Darli Dagger is amazing. This game is stupid fun.

Oh it will win awards because Geoff is not only Kojima's buddy, but he is in the game as well. Don't be surprised if it gets GOTY tomorrow.


How is Deltarune exactly the same thing when Deltarune was a surprise release? It couldn't market itself because there was no marketing, as opposed to almost 2 years of marketing for Death Stranding where nothing was actually made concrete about the game aside from Hideo making it. Also, there's levels to this. There's introducing a game with its creator and then laying out what it's about, both story and gameplay wise, and then there's introducing the game with its creator and keeping it insanely ambiguous with the only thing selling it being "Hideo Kojima made it".

Look at indie titles. Would you even be talking about Deltarune if it was not from Toby Fox? Know how many games I saw in the Nindie direct that I just said meh to because I did not know the developer.

Now look at Axiom Verge 2. I knew that game and the developer. So I was excited for that. And it was a surprise announcement.
That is how it all works. Name recognition.

 

[Z25]

Oh yeah it’s happening:

 

[drag0nscythe]

Oh yeah it’s happening:

Ok. Something big is at tga. Hopefully it is smash. Could this also hint at them winning goty?

 

[Deleted member]

dunno if this is :slowpoke: but kill every last one of them got in this and quite frankly i am very proud of my son

Every year I personally edit a hype trailer to get me in the mood for #TheGameAwards on Thursday. Here's what I edited together this year. (Nothing included here is meant to tease show content/premieres, just the story I wanted to tell). pic.twitter.com/YztMer2oKn

— Geoff Keighley (@geoffkeighley) December 8, 2019

 

[Z25]

Ok. Something big is at tga. Hopefully it is smash. Could this also hint at them winning goty?

I could see smash win, it continues to only get bigger and bigger. Meanwhile those other games for the most party have interest die down.

I’m betting botw 2, smash and if they win goty then maybe first non fighters pass character

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Finally got the chance to play SamSho on someone's switch setup.

Darli Dagger is amazing. This game is stupid fun.

Oh it will win awards because Geoff is not only Kojima's buddy, but he is in the game as well. Don't be surprised if it gets GOTY tomorrow.


How is Deltarune exactly the same thing when Deltarune was a surprise release? It couldn't market itself because there was no marketing, as opposed to almost 2 years of marketing for Death Stranding where nothing was actually made concrete about the game aside from Hideo making it. Also, there's levels to this. There's introducing a game with its creator and then laying out what it's about, both story and gameplay wise, and then there's introducing the game with its creator and keeping it insanely ambiguous with the only thing selling it being "Hideo Kojima made it".

But the awards are decided by a fan vote. If he has the ability to just choose who wins, then why even give us the illusion of participation?

And I won't be surprised if it wins, but I will be very very angry. It can win SOMETHING. Maybe even a lot of things. But it should not get GOTY. It does not deserve it in the slightest. I'm hoping for a God of War scenario again.

 

[Deleted member]

I am going to sleep when I get back home.

Didn't have a cool day at all.

 

[drag0nscythe]

I am going to sleep when I get back home.

Didn't have a cool day at all.

Sorry to hear your day was bad. Tomorrow is tga. Maybe smash stuff. Should be better.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I still can't stop listening to Oogie Boogie's song. So catchy!

 

[Strong Badam]

But the awards are decided by a fan vote. If he has the ability to just choose who wins, then why even give us the illusion of participation

Fan vote accounts for 10% of the ranking, rest is a panel chosen by TGA, which Geoff is not on.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Fan vote accounts for 10% of the ranking, rest is a panel chosen by TGA, which Geoff is not on.

Well, that's better at least. Hopefully they vote in a way that is actually based on the game's quality.