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Snake Vs MK - The 2 Tier Titans!

brinboy789

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I think theyre neutral. MK completely shuts down snakes aerial game, but snakes ground game is far superior to MK's. theyre B moves are both amazing, and theyre recoveries are both above average.

whats your intake on this matchup?
 

LinkSceptile333

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Metaknight has an advantage. MK's aerial game completely ***** Snake, and his recovery is easily destroyed. Although Snake's Neutral B can be spammed, MK can easily Tornado Snake whilst dodging the 'nades.
 

Semmick

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I say this matchup goes to MK. MK's aerial game is far superior, and camping with grenades is hard because MK is so fast.
 

neon..?

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m2k lol well you probably think that because u use mk and don't want to get him banned. (jk) but yeah he's kind of right but everyone says mk has an advantage on everyone exept for mk mains.
 

iRjOn

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LOL wow the snake forums are so biased, Snake goes at least even or has the advantage vs MK. MK can only get an advantage with a gimp, and those are hard against good people that DI and don't often get into bad situations
I use to main Snake and M2K is extremely knoledgeable its obvious that he's got a valid point.

Think about it he would know...
 

Nitrix

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I think theyre neutral. MK completely shuts down snakes aerial game, but snakes ground game is far superior to MK's. theyre B moves are both amazing, and theyre recoveries are both above average.

Snakes recovery is above average? Orly?
 

Shady Penguin

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Snake's recovery isn't comparable to MK's.

Snake can pretty much get all the distance he wants with his recovery, but he's way easier to gimp than Meta Knight.
 

LibertyD

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I'd say Snake has a better Math up against MK. Maybe only just a slight amount. Like M2K said, MK only has the advatage when MK can gimp. Placing nades wisley shut's down MK's nado/pressure game quite a bit, and Snake's almight BS ftilts can outrange practically all of MK's moves. If a Snake can just maintain ground, he can win more likley. But both have one thing in each othes area. Snake has his Bair which can come out fast and unexpected, with large knockback, if he's being juggled, while MK's grab game is one of the best. If you space yourself though, your tilts can still beat out the grabs. In other words, for Snakes:
Stay on the ground all the times if can, be defensive and use nades wisley. And use your tilts like always. Oh and motars always protect you from rushing/grabs as well as gives MK's a slight harder time in the air and sometomes opens up utilts into mortar oppurtunites to rack up fast dmg.
 

Nic64

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everyone says mk has an advantage on everyone exept for mk mains.
I think it's even and I main neither character, and I'm slightly better with snake than MK. maybe even a slight advantage for snake, the match usually plays out like MK is just dominating except snake just refuses to die and can up tilt MK to death ridiculously early, a MK needs to out damage snake like 2:1 in order to win, and maybe even a bit more than that. I think a lot of snake's might fall into a psychological trap where they see their percent going up so much faster than the MK and panic, and do worse, if a snake plays an efficient defensive game he should be able to survive a lot
 

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LOL wow the snake forums are so biased, Snake goes at least even or has the advantage vs MK. MK can only get an advantage with a gimp, and those are hard against good people that DI and don't often get into bad situations
Every forum is biased, this shouldn't be new to you. And I agree that the matchup is even, but you make it sound like all MK can do to snake is gimp which is absolutely not true, MK almost completely shuts down all of snakes air game. If snake leaves the ground, it's MK's fault if he ever lands. Snake has some great spacing ability on the ground and it makes approaching directly from ground level extremely hard which is really the only thing saving snake in the matchup, but MK can manuver much more freely than snake can and most of MK's moves are extremely hard to punish if they are properly spaced.
 

cheetacuz007

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strange replies....
anyway i think its neutral depending on the characters playstyles
if the MK is spamming tornado, (M2K) lol jk, and the snake uses his grenades wisely and stays OUT of the air snake will win
but if the MK mixes it up and keeps snake IN the air and guessing.... it gets frustrating and the match goes the other way
 

brinboy789

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strange replies....
anyway i think its neutral depending on the characters playstyles
if the MK is spamming tornado, (M2K) lol jk, and the snake uses his grenades wisely and stays OUT of the air snake will win
but if the MK mixes it up and keeps snake IN the air and guessing.... it gets frustrating and the match goes the other way
MK wins in air
Snake wins in ground

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Leh

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LOL wow the snake forums are so biased, Snake goes at least even or has the advantage vs MK. MK can only get an advantage with a gimp, and those are hard against good people that DI and don't often get into bad situations
Half the snakes here are *******.
M2k is completely right, Snake vs MK is even. The only advantage MK can get is with a gimp. WHich is indeed easy to avoid through good DI and good choices. Snake destroys MK on the ground. And tornado STOPPING your grenade game? Are you ********? Grenades DESTROY not only mk but ESPECIALLY the tornado. Learn how to use grenades (you can do WAY more besides a straight throw or a drop) and tornado is simple.

I doubt half the snakes here go to tourneys (Let alone win them)
 

napZzz

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...play smart vs. mk..and the match up is very even. ALthough if you play really retarted and try to be offensive and fail off stage you gonna get pwned :/
 

B.A.M.

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it should be fairly obvious that snake is a slight advantage vs mk. nades+ground game = win. problem is; all these pros are coming in stating this and wondering why every1 says otherwise. most ppl here suck *** at DI. that is the difference between competitive players and n00bs. u just cant be flying off the stage like a moron, trying 2 battle mk in the air. then watch urself fly off and get big bang upper'd in the face.
 

Shady Penguin

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Looks like people aren't as settled on this match-up as I thought.

From what I know, I still think the advantage is slightly in MK's favor, but I know guys like M2K and Afro have more experience to base their opinions on than I do. That being said, I'm not going to take their word on it just because they're pros.

I'll become better accustomed to this match-up when I actually go to more tournaments, so I'll try to see if the pro-Meta hype is just fluff.
 

Leh

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Looks like people aren't as settled on this match-up as I thought.

From what I know, I still think the advantage is slightly in MK's favor, but I know guys like M2K and Afro have more experience to base their opinions on than I do. That being said, I'm not going to take their word on it just because they're pros.

I'll become better accustomed to this match-up when I actually go to more tournaments, so I'll try to see if the pro-Meta hype is just fluff.
I really respect posts like these. Im not posting just to convince everyone that im right and your wrong. Im posting for people to know that there ARE people who can deal with the matchup and think its even, giving hope if you will haha.
 

SupremeOverLord

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snake might take out mk hes a heavyweight, so mk's attacks wouldn't do so much with knockback
and snake can counter mk's aerial with a mortar or maybe a nair(could be tricky) but mk's mach tornado
could be counter with a well timed grenade.So i stay snake would win
 

Shady Penguin

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I really respect posts like these. Im not posting just to convince everyone that im right and your wrong. Im posting for people to know that there ARE people who can deal with the matchup and think its even, giving hope if you will haha.
Appreciate it. I'm glad to see you're not one of those pros who throws their opinions around like they're facts.

Back to the subject, this topic isn't needed since the official match-up topic will cover Snake vs. MK eventually.
 
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