Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Pyra]

My actual stance on the Grinch stuff at Nintendo's London Comic Con Booth?

One of the people behind it is having a go at all of you. That's it.
As much as I'd like to be wrong about that.

At this point I'm just tired of people not listening and going with the same circumstancial evidence of "who would go through all this effort?" or "these things that are clearly inconsistencies could just have changed".
If you're all gonna call insiders liars and act like you know better than them, then there's really no reason for me to waste my time with this ****. I'm already stressed enough with irl stuff so I don't need more deaf hypocrites in my life.
I'll be back when this leak has been 100% proven real or fake, and by then, I hope you guys can see past your own confirmation biases.

I feel solace in knowing you aren't grouping me in with people unnecessarily.

 

[tsundoku]

No the Reddit user was saying he tried to do it and it looks like **** compared to the leak. He was trying to prove the leak is real.

the leak version is NOT content aware autofill from photoshop its definitely hand digitally illustrated
they just didnt know about any of the details that were obscured by characters

 

[Nekoo]

That literally just adds to it being real. It shows the Grinch has close ties with Nintendo events.

You're high...The comic con isn't a Nintendo Event you know?

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

View attachment 172333
The render is the same, it has been edited though. The body is longer and the shape of the head is slighty different. You can still se that the fur has been cut and it's not as long as in the official artwork:
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Though, you can clearly see that the nose is still in the picture and it's not his back, it's still his face... despite this, the mouth has been deleted.
This is a photoshop work, it's fake.

Why would the leaker edit out the mouth rather than just use the render he readily has access to?

I know you think it’s fake, but this doesn’t prove anything. To me, it seems like the mouth isn’t visible because of the glare on the plastic.

 

[osby]

Pack it up boys. It's just that the London Comic Con is partner with the Grinch movie, even GameExplain's Press Card was Grinch Themed

Source

But then we'd need to stop ****posting...

 

[Paperchampion23]

Okay, so it seems like the building the booth is being held at is sponsored by the movie, which would explain the posters.

So it's just one hell of a coincidence lmao.

....is it though?

 

[Phyr]

You misquoted me but like I said, he was ******** about the work. You have to note these 2 screens come rom a larger video where he could be showing that new work arrived and **** nintendo, for all we know.

If he wanted to leak the roster he would have focused the armband, something people are ignoring heavily. He wasn't trying to have this leaked at first. Most of the planes are a rather general shot of his workplace, not from nintendo specific stuff.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

LMAO
An employee at a Nintendo booth doesn't reflect all of nintendo guys.

You're right. Only Sakurai does. Because Sakurai is all of Smash Bros; he models all of the characters and programs them all the way until playtesting. I know this because SourceGaming told me so

Spoiler

blatant sarcasm and anyone who believes anything close to this is a fool.

 

[Phyr]

But then we'd need to stop ****posting...

It's a rather hilarious coincidence lol.

 

[Noipoi]

So despite all the twists and turns going on for the past few days, I want to ask this:
How would you guys feel about getting a potential Dragalia Lost character for DLC?
I doubt it would even happen, but hey at least it’d allow for someone along the lines of Tiki to get in.

Even though I’d probably prefer her much more..

I don't know any Dragalia Lost characters...so I guess I wouldn't care?

 

[Misery Brick]

This is some JoJo levels of Bull****** going on right now.

Are people going to turn into snails next!? This is the most BIZARRE timeline we live in.

Maybe our small hearts will grow three sizes that day.

 

[Deleted member]

Grinch is the reincarnation of Heath Ledger.

THAT’S THE ACTUAL TRUTH, DON’T DENY IT!

 

[Androobie]

Huh, guys, is this normal?

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/9rntyw/spotted_a_certain_someone_at_nintendos_london/

No. No ****ing way. This can’t be in front of my eyes right now. This is bull****. I refuse to believe that actually happened. Nope. Never happened.

 

[Chrono.]

In the possible scenario that this banner leak is fake, I would highly suggest lowering your expectations.

lol Some of y'all are way too concerned on how others hype themselves or whatever.

It's not a big deal.

 

[BluePikmin11]

shh

let people enjoy things

Now, if they start to send hate mail to devs or something, that's where we have a problem, but this is by far the most entertaining forums have been during this speculation cycle.

I think you know you're letting a disaster let loose. :L

Oh well... I don't think I will be able to stop the hill of salt that is gonna happen if this ends up being fake anyway.

I'll just let nature take its course at this point.

 

[Paperchampion23]

View attachment 172333
The render is the same, it has been edited though. The body is longer and the shape of the head is slighty different. You can still se that the fur has been cut and it's not as long as in the official artwork:
View attachment 172334
Though, you can clearly see that the nose is still in the picture and it's not his back, it's still his face... despite this, the mouth has been deleted.
This is a photoshop work, it's fake.

The mouth is not deleted lmfao, it's there. Look ****ing harder XDDD

 

[Cutie Gwen]

lmao are people really thinking Serebii is being bribed to hold info? Y'all realize one of the biggest moments for his site was that it nearly got a C&D for something about Black and White right? I think he's got a good rep and is incredibly professional yet he's suddenly a part of all this mess because crazed people are insane

 

[Cyberfire]

Pack it up boys. It's just that the London Comic Con is partner with the Grinch movie, even GameExplain's Press Card was Grinch Themed

Source

I am the original uploader of the video, and yeah this be the truth, you couldn’t escape that green **** eating smirk all over the con. Still found it hilarious to see the him laying around Nintendo’s booth of all places though!

 

[Z25]

Pack it up boys. It's just that the London Comic Con is partner with the Grinch movie, even GameExplain's Press Card was Grinch Themed

Source

I'm just gonna sit here and say that fate/destiny or whatever the **** else that's cosmic, is aligning the stars for us to see the leak is real.

 

[Pyra]

lol Some of y'all are way too concerned on how others hype themselves or whatever.

It's not a big deal.

t h a n k
y o u

You're right. Only Sakurai does. Because Sakurai is all of Smash Bros; he models all of the characters and programs them all the way until playtesting. I know this because SourceGaming told me so

Spoiler

blatant sarcasm and anyone who believes anything close to this is a fool.

BUT OKAY SAKURAI SAID . . . . .

 

[T-Hell]

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if a big reason a lot of people are aggressively deadset on it being real is because it has what they want.

Just like people who are deadset on it being fake probably miss a character there.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

So despite all the twists and turns going on for the past few days, I want to ask this:
How would you guys feel about getting a potential Dragalia Lost character for DLC?
I doubt it would even happen, but hey at least it’d allow for someone along the lines of Tiki to get in.

Even though I’d probably prefer her much more..

Do we need yet another anime swordsman, though?

 

[Noipoi]

This is way better than a few weeks ago.
What were we doing a few weeks ago, talking about boxes? Now The Grinch is playing 4D Chess with our souls.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

The hypothetical scenario si mine? When team fake are saying that the guy could be impersonated, or that te guy might have got the grinch thing because I dunno? or that the guy is actually being given a fake print?

Please....???? Tell me that you didn't actually said that.

I stated how those companies work, and that the evidence falls into place. That's deduction. Not hypothesising.

Not when there’s evidence the guy is being impersonated. The fact that he’s not even working at the company he’s supposedly leaking from is a step up from “dude was disgruntled at his job and leaked the banner.” Occam’s Razor is not the answer here; it’s too complex to be explained so simply.

Thanks for clarifying to all the forum that you don't need reputation because you don't leak stuff, rather you just tell what Nintendo feeds you as another marketing vector.

Please Joe, you haven't changed in all these years xD.

There’s really no point in arguing you. You’re so dead set on selling actual conspiracy theories that it’s impossible to argue facts. It’s like yelling at a brick wall at this point.

This Grinch stuff is so ****ing funny, I think we're in Smash speculation's peak atm.

I will admit, this is the kick in the ass the Smash speculation scene needed to get back into gear.

 

[Pyra]

lmao are people really thinking Serebii is being bribed to hold info? Y'all realize one of the biggest moments for his site was that it nearly got a C&D for something about Black and White right? I think he's got a good rep and is incredibly professional yet he's suddenly a part of all this mess because crazed people are insane

The person insisting on this is giving me second hand embarrassment so I've been ignoring it.

 

[Nekoo]

I am the original uploader of the video, and yeah this be the truth, you couldn’t escape that green **** eating smirk all over the con. Still found it hilarious to see the him laying around Nintendo’s booth of all places though!

Ha! Thanks you for comic forth! But Really? It's everywhere?

Oh no... First the Leaks...
Then the comics con.

We're done...The Grinch is everywhere

 

[Thirdkoopa]

BUT OKAY SAKURAI SAID . . . . .

Sakurai said that there'd be a few characters left and that they're slowing down! He's not a PR Mouthpiece or anything for the series because the other directors want to be! Did I mention he's the only Director? Because there's clearly never been a Smash game with Multiple directors! Asides from, like, all of them.

 

[bountyhunta87]

I guess. I legitimately want Strider Hiryu to get in too, but he's just a different story for different reasons.

Not holding my breath or anything but it would be cool to have him with Simon.

 

[osby]

lol Some of y'all are way too concerned on how others hype themselves or whatever.

It's not a big deal.

I mean, if people are going to overhype themselves and then hate on a character I like just because of disappointment that they created, it can kinda be a big deal.

Speaking hypothetically, not that Smash fandom has a track record of doing such a thing.

 

[Waluigi is not getting in]

You're high...The comic con isn't a Nintendo Event you know?

OK dude... it clearly shows Nintendo has hold of some of this Grinch material. That would explain why Smash material would even be found near any Grinch material in the first place.

 

[tsundoku]

Seeing the reaction to a nintendo employee jokingly bringing a grinch magazine / ad thing to work makes me realize that literally all of my time was wasted here

I saw a few competent voices in there point out it was obviously a joke but christ.

 

[Schnee117]

Yeah totally.

I'm leaning towards real, but there is a lot of doubt. maybe 55-45 right now.

Grinch roster is amazing. Kencineroar is..... meh? Are they really going out on a whimper? (unless Ken and Incellroar are your jam... for some reason) I want to believe!

Brawl ended on Olimar.
Smash 4 ended on Shulk and his reveal was in a Japan-only direct.

Going out on a "whimper" is nothing new.

 

[FalcoXP]

Another point for #TEAMREAL!!!!! We got it guys.
Debunk this Resetera!!!!

==To be Continued=>

 

[Phyr]

lmao are people really thinking Serebii is being bribed to hold info? Y'all realize one of the biggest moments for his site was that it nearly got a C&D for something about Black and White right? I think he's got a good rep and is incredibly professional yet he's suddenly a part of all this mess because crazed people are insane

Serebii himself said it. He doesn't leak stuff. Take that as you will

He might had in the past, but most of his sources are nintendo themselves. Is another marketing vector.

 

[TheCJBrine]

View attachment 172333
The render is the same, it has been edited though. The body is longer and the shape of the head is slighty different. You can still se that the fur has been cut and it's not as long as in the official artwork:
View attachment 172334
Though, you can clearly see that the nose is still in the picture and it's not his back, it's still his face... despite this, the mouth has been deleted.
This is a photoshop work, it's fake.

If you look closely, you can see a little line where his mouth should be; also, due to the crappy photo quality and the lighting, I don't really see how that would debunk it anyway. The photos are also from a snapchat video (excluding the one with the banner pieced together).

Due to the white strip between his front and back sides (the back side having the dog), it's probably supposed to be a silly decoration that spins around, flips over, or is simply set a certain way so people can walk around it and find it funny.

Now we wait to see if something like that shows up in stores or something.

 

[Pyra]

Sakurai said that there'd be a few characters left and that they're slowing down! He's not a PR Mouthpiece or anything for the series because the other directors want to be! Did I mention he's the only Director? Because there's clearly never been a Smash game with Multiple directors! Asides from, like, all of them.

OKAY BUT ANYWAY SAKURAI SAID . . . .

This is way better than a few weeks ago.
What were we doing a few weeks ago, talking about boxes? Now The Grinch is playing 4D Chess with our souls.

He'll have to play 5D chess against me, an admin of the D club Some dude with internet access

 

[ButterGeek]

A documentary about this would probably be wayyyyyy better than the actual Grinch Illumination will be

 

[Noipoi]

I dunno why some people are suddenly crapping on Serebii , he's not being payed to cover this up he just runs a really good Pokemon website.

 

[MainJPW]

View attachment 172333
The render is the same, it has been edited though. The body is longer and the shape of the head is slighty different. You can still se that the fur has been cut and it's not as long as in the official artwork:
View attachment 172334
Though, you can clearly see that the nose is still in the picture and it's not his back, it's still his face... despite this, the mouth has been deleted.
This is a photoshop work, it's fake.

I can still see the side of his mouth and it's being obscured by light reflecting off the plastic. Reach harder.

 

[OptimisticStrifer]

In the possible scenario that this banner leak is fake, I would highly suggest lowering your expectations.

Please stop hype policing.