ElectricCitrus
Smash Journeyman
Actually I probably won't post my system because it's too complex for smash boards as it was built with an idea for a site dedicated to nothing but clans. A site that sadly no longer exists. :/
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Or you know, use raidcall.Chat alternatives:
- Xat
- Skype (no voice calls / video calls)
- Smashboards
- Smash 3DS-specific site.
I like the idea of clans though.
This is a good idea in practice and in fairness, but you shouldn't be able to tell Clans they can't kick a weak member if its costing your group matches. I get that there will be one weak member compared to others int he clan, but if you're bad enough that you're dropping games constantly and they have someone to replace them that isn't a liability then you shouldn't be protected by a psuedo bullying rule. Just my two centsi would love to see this happen and I would do try to be part of this clan THANG. i have a few extra rules u might want to add.
If u want to add them at all.
1 - Have 2 kinds of clan (battles ranked, and free battles free battles.)
2 - Nobody should kick a clan member just because hes bad or hes the weakest link. a member should be kicked if they are being arrogant little prick or just been inactive for a awhile without telling anyone why he/she is gone.
3 - every clan is going to have the weakest link or someone who is clearly not as skilled as everyone else i think all the weakest member should face the weakest member of clan B. also the weakest member should not be give a title.
4 - the 4 top members should be the best players without question.
A 0.4 - there should be 10 different ranks based around skill level in each clan can fight in each skill/ranked level.
B 0.4 - there shouldn't be ranks at all just a counter on the side that says who won against who and who lost against who.
I think clan battles should be mostly about team battles.since the people in the clan are growing as a group y not fight as a group.
i'm sure the ranked thing will fix itself over time just throwing in a few ideas.
What I'm confused about is why would people who already have skype use that?Or you know, use raidcall.
Raidcall is a more organized voice chat and it can be a huge server for every clan. There is no need to add people to your friends and it less laggy than skype.What I'm confused about is why would people who already have skype use that?
well maybe be i implied a little to much here since ik people who come to this website aren't every day casuals and who play smash bros often. I just forgot to say if the weakest link really hinders the rest of the group then he should be kicked. lets say the weakest link has a 2/10 win streak from fighting people just in their own group and aren't even fighting the peoples mains. Then everyone in the group already knows they can't depend on him and should be kicked for the better of the group. I just mean if he can hold his own in battle but he/she is not a reliable but yet dependable win then he should stay in the clan. ( of course with the rules i posted above the weakest link should fight the weakest link.)This is a good idea in practice and in fairness, but you shouldn't be able to tell Clans they can't kick a weak member if its costing your group matches. I get that there will be one weak member compared to others int he clan, but if you're bad enough that you're dropping games constantly and they have someone to replace them that isn't a liability then you shouldn't be protected by a psuedo bullying rule. Just my two cents
Alright, I get it, I didn't know you were coming from a more casual standing. But I agree with this as I said in my post. If you're just the weakest in the group but still a good player then obviously you stay (barring politics), but if you're costing your clan status then you shouldn't be protected.well maybe be i implied a little to much here since ik people who come to this website aren't every day casuals and who play smash bros often. I just forgot to say if the weakest link really hinders the rest of the group then he should be kicked. lets say the weakest link has a 2/10 win streak from fighting people just in their own group and aren't even fighting the peoples mains. Then everyone in the group already knows they can't depend on him and should be kicked for the better of the group. I just mean if he can hold his own in battle but he/she is not a reliable but yet dependable win then he should stay in the clan. ( of course with the rules i posted above the weakest link should fight the weakest link.)
Hmm, I hate downloading more programs when I already have stuff I could use. I guess I see what you're saying though. Still don't understand why some many people here dislike skype lol.Raidcall is a more organized voice chat and it can be a huge server for every clan. There is no need to add people to your friends and it less laggy than skype.
A lot of groups will likely have their own rules on some of this stuff.lol y dont we just fix this now and say that the 3 leaders will test the new player and if he puts up a good fight then hes in simple as that. (a few fights not just one)
Also one more rule i would like to add no clan can join a event until there are at least 8 people in the clan.
So when can we start forming clans? If you don't mind I'd like to try and get one going.
PM ME TO JOIN THE SUPER COOL SUPER SEXY THUNDER WASPS.
Also here's a spoiler'd version of the clan system I talked about. I've been doing this stuff since July and @Capps @ RPGatWill are quite familiar with it.
The Citrus-System
The governing-rules for the 3DS Alliance
Written By:
Matthew “ElectricCitrus” Barker
Crews and Leagues
· In the Competitive Smash 3Ds scene there exists a total of 32 crews divided into four divisions, of four crews each, divided into two conferences. The conferences and their divisions are the following:
o Master-Hand Conference
§ Red Division
§ Gold Division
§ Yellow Division
§ Orange Division
o Crazy-Hand Conference
§ Blue Division
§ Silver Division
§ Green Division
§ Purple Division
· The amount of crews in each division is capped at four, meaning each conference has a total of 16 crews for a grand total of 32 crews.
· In order for a crew to be formed, following the beginning period, the founder must meet the following requirements:
§ Must be ranked at least in the top 50% of their respective crew.
§ Must be a member of a crew for at least a season.
§ Must be in good standing with the Conference Organizers Council.
· Good standing is defined as: Having not been leveled more than three infractions during a season, and not been found cheating during an event.
o Cheating is defined as bracket-manipulation, misreporting of results, abusing banned glitches, and anything not mentioned that might draw into question the legitimacy, character, and authenticity of any tournament results, sets, matches, 3DS Alliance crews, or 3DS Alliance players.
o Upon meeting the requirements set forth above, the crew founder will be granted permission by the Conference Organizers Council to engage in one or more of the following:
§ Recruit members for their crew
§ Petition for Conference Organizers Councilor status
o In order for a crew to be granted access into a division, the clan must have at least five members, and the division must not be at max capacity.
o Should a crew drop below five members, they will no longer be allowed to compete in their division.
o If, by the end of the season in which the membership drops, the crew has not regained their members they will be considered a dead crew.
§ Dead crews cannot:
· Compete
· Be ranked
· Have their captains nominated to join the Conference Organizers Council
o A dead crew may be “revived” if the following conditions are met prior to the beginning of the next season.
§ Membership returns to five
§ Approval is gained through a 2/3 vote of the Conference Organizers Council
§ There is room in the divisions for their crew to be re-added.
· Crews are lead by captains who are elected from within the crew through a two-part voting series:
§ Nominations and a vote to confirm three nominations
§ Final vote between the three nominees to select the captain.
o Captains remain in place until they fall out of good standing with the Conference Organizers Council—as defined by the good standing clause outlined in the clan formation section—or until they retire.
§ Upon retiring, the process will begin but with one change: The retiring captain is given permission to nominate one member of the clan who is instantly placed in the second round of voting.
Conference Organizers Council
· The 3DSA Season is lead by the Conference Organizers Council, from this point on to be abbreviated as COG, appointed by the chair of the Council. In order to petition for appointment, one must meet the crew-formation requirements. To be appointed one must:
§ Be in outstanding condition with the Council
· Outstanding condition is defined as having no-infractions leveled during a season, a lifetime infraction count of below 5, and has never been found to have engaged in cheating or otherwise malicious activities, benign or illicit.
§ Have shown dedication to their crew by participating in a majority of tournaments
§ Have shown dedication to their clan by participating in a majority of clan tournaments
§ Not currently the captain of a crew
o Once candidates are found that meet all of the above requirements, a vote will be held among all the current Conference Organizers Councilors
o Conference Organizers Councilors have the sole purpose of organizing the entirety of the 3DS Alliance’s season, fulfilling any obligations that include, but are not limited to:
§ Organizing tournaments.
§ Compiling accurate results.
§ Observing competitions to ensure the rules are abided by.
§ Hearing, reviewing, and issuing a vote on ban appeals.
§ Hearing, investigating, and punishing rules violations.
o Membership of the Conference Organizers Council is for life, or until good-service runs out.
Seasons and Required Tournaments
o Seasons are to last for four months, with a break of two months in between each season.
o Each season is to feature each crew playing the other crews in their division exactly two times in a season, followed by playing one crew from each of the remaining three divisions in their conference exactly one time.
§ These nine games are to always be the 3DSA Modified Crew Battle System:
· Only five players may compete in each of the crew battles
· Crew battles consist of two singles and one doubles matches, which are to be four stocks and eight minutes in length.
o The remaining fifth player is a sub who may compete should another player become unavailable or ineligible.
o Players competing in the singles event may not compete in the doubles of that crew battle and vice versa.
· The home crew will get to choose which of their singles players fights the away team’s singles players.
· The away team will in turn get to pick the first stage.
· The home team always gets the second stage pick.
· In the case of doubles, the first stage will be picked by the home team.
· Home and away teams are initially determined by the COG, and are then alternated from that point on giving all crews equal exposure as the home and away team.
· There are four points up for grabs in each of the singles matches, and in the double match.
o One point for winning each round
o One point for competing
o One extra point for winning the set.
· At the end of the two singles and one doubles matches, the crew with the most points accumulated will take home the victory.
o A dead-line will be given, and if the two crews have not played by that deadline a penalty will be given and overall ranking points will be deducted.
§ Should a crew go dead mid-season they are to be replaced, with the new crew starting with no ranking.
o There is to be, at the end of each season, the Boss Battle that is to be played by the top crew from each Conference. The Boss Battle is to be played no later than one week after the season ends, and is to be a 3DSA Modified Crew battle format, expanded to accommodate the entire crew.
o In the event where one crew has more members than the other, the amount allowed to compete in the Boss Battle will be made equal for both crews with the remaining players left as a pool from which substitutions may be drawn.
Tournament types
o The 3DS Alliance season is the following event:
§ 3DSA Modified Crew Battles
o The 3DS Alliance season does not rank, but does not bar the following events:
§ Juggernaut (3v1)
§ Smash Run
§ Singles
§ Doubles
§ Low-Tier Tournaments
· Note these events will still be ranked on the individual basis.
o In order for a tournament to be eligible, and considered for rankings it must not only meet the requirements previously stated but must also adhere to any rules currently accepted by the Conference Organizers Council, and the larger Smash Community; this may include but is not limited to rules such as:
§ No-Items
§ Stage Bans
§ Character Bans
§ Glitch Abuses
§ Dave’s Stupid Rule
Custom Moves, Characters and Switching
· The COG does not ban the use of Custom Moves however the following guidelines must be followed:
o All custom moves that a player will use MUST be posted prior to the start of the season.
o All custom moves submitted by a player must be the moves used until the mid-point of the season where players may switch out the moves they use.
o All characters a player will use MUST be posted prior to the start of the season.
o All characters submitted by a player must be the characters said player uses until the mid-point of the season when they may submit a switch of their roster.
o The max amount of characters a player may submit at the beginning, or mid-point, of the season is four.
Infractions and Punishment
· Infractions will be levied to players, league organizers, and members of the Conference Organizers Council based on the breaking of any of these rules:
§ Incivility
§ Being kicked from a tournament for rule violations.
§ Breaking any rules posted on the 3ds alliance forums
o Infractions are tracked both lifetime and seasonally
§ Seasonal infractions reset once a new season starts, but are still counted towards lifetime infractions.
o Players are given a maximum of five infractions before punishments get dolled out.
· Punishments are on a scale of severity going from one (least severe) to five (most severe)
§ Warning, and a tournament ban for one week
§ Warning, and a tournament ban for one month
§ Warning, and a tournament ban for one season
§ Warning, a tournament ban for two seasons, and kicked from your Clan.
§ A tournament ban for life as well as stripped of all rankings
· Fifth level to be altered at the discretion of the 3DS Association, with the exception being for illegal activity.
o The only way to achieve the fifth level of punishment is to engage in any of the following activities:
§ Cheating of a severe nature
· Severe nature is defined as acts including, but not limited to:
o Using hacked hardware
o Knowingly manipulating brackets
o Accepting bribes to throw matches
§ Committing acts deemed illegal by common law
§ Accumulating more than fifty infractions in a season
o Crew Captains or Conference Organizer Councilors knowingly allowing tournament bans to go unnoticed will be given a warning.
o Crew-Captains or Conference Organizers Councilors knowingly allowing, aiding, or turning a blind eye to cheating, banned for life players, or illegal activity will be immediately stripped of their rank and given a review by the chair of the Conference Organizers Council to determine their punishment.
§ If it is a case of illegal activity the Conference Organizers Councilor(s) or Crew-Captain(s) found guilty of aiding, allowing, or turning a blind-eye will be stripped of their rank, and banned from competing in the 3DS Alliance Season for life.
There's an actual document version of it that's obviously formatted to be more pretty but yeah.
Raidcall doesn't support Mac.Or you know, use raidcall.
Dude you are majestic AF.I really like this idea! No Skype, though. My face isn't majestic enough, and neither is my voice.
good.Raidcall doesn't support Mac.
I love this idea! It'd be a nice, organized way to find a group of people to smash with online.
...Let's just say my close friends in real life are the "items only" type of smashers...
Dude you are majestic AF.
On another note I would love this! We could totally coordinate characters, train together, get in scuffs with other clans, ect. it would be totally adorable! XD
If somebody makes this a real thing let me know...Im too lazy to handle my own, I would rather be a member not a leader.
I love this idea, but I'm a bit confused abut some things on this. For one, when you say crews you mean the different clans correct? How will we go about getting the official 32 clans, getting the initial clan rankings, and appointing members to the council and such? And will these tournaments be able to be done completely wirelessly for those who can't travel? ( Most likely through Skype or whatever means of communication. )