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JustKindaBoredUKno

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Has it been discussed at all how custom movesets could actually help nerf certain characters? I haven't seen the argument spun this way yet, and just thought I'd share.

Imagine a scenario where custom movesets were in Brawl. MK could have had certain banned moves to help balance things out a bit. In the least, a MK player could be given a restricted list and would only be allowed to use 1 or 2 out of 3 or so choices. This way, at least players could adapt to certain MK playstyles, keeping the matchup from becoming too stale
 

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Costume moves could have made Brawl a lot better.The tier list would probably be change completely and it would have a lot more balance.
 
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Has it been discussed at all how custom movesets could actually help nerf certain characters? I haven't seen the argument spun this way yet, and just thought I'd share.

Imagine a scenario where custom movesets were in Brawl. MK could have had certain banned moves to help balance things out a bit. In the least, a MK player could be given a restricted list and would only be allowed to use 1 or 2 out of 3 or so choices. This way, at least players could adapt to certain MK playstyles, keeping the matchup from becoming too stale
From what I've seen, certain custom moves are better suited to 4 player matches and would be completely useless in 1v1 matches.
 

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That's WAY different from birds with teeth. Like, out of the four animatronics, that bird- Chica?- is the worst. If it didn't have teeth, I'd be the least scariest. And to top it off, it wears a bib that says, "let's eat". Eughghgh...
It also has 2 sets of teeth.
 

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It also has 2 sets of teeth.
If Im not mistake it has something to do with the game's story, thought it was a clever little detail to include. (basicaly, animatronics have dead kids stuffed in them, just like you end up when you game over)
 
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If Im not mistake it has something to do with the game's story, thought it was a clever little detail to include. (basicaly, animatronics have dead kids stuffed in them, just like you end up when you game over)
Nah. The dude on the phone is in Chica. The other 3 animatronics are empty.
 

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Could have sworn you could see the teeth before the night where he bites it, but I could be wrong I guess.
I've always been under the understanding he's not alive during the game, as he pre-recorded it before Mike takes the job.
 

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I don't find birds with teeth weird. A side effect of reading too much about evolution.

Has it been discussed at all how custom movesets could actually help nerf certain characters? I haven't seen the argument spun this way yet, and just thought I'd share.

Imagine a scenario where custom movesets were in Brawl. MK could have had certain banned moves to help balance things out a bit. In the least, a MK player could be given a restricted list and would only be allowed to use 1 or 2 out of 3 or so choices. This way, at least players could adapt to certain MK playstyles, keeping the matchup from becoming too stale
Most custom moves seem better than the normal specials, so while it does make it more interesting, I'm not sure how much it is in the realm of balance. I'd like to think that they are not allowed in "With Anyone" matches for a reason.
 

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So, I was just playing the Smash 3DS demo again and decided to do some crazy FFAs with items on and 3 Lv 9 CPUs.

One big difference I noticed about the AI: the CPUs don't gang up on you like how they do in Brawl.

And while some reviews state it's hard to follow the action on the 3DS's small screen, I didn't think so. The player indicators help a lot in tracking your character. Plus, you can touch your character's data on the touch screen to add a marker that makes the job easier, even though I didn't need it.

Of course, it's still very understandable why there aren't huge stages like Temple, New Pork City or Palutena's Temple in this version.

Speaking of those stages, I shudder to think what it will be like to face Multi-Man Teams of Pit, Palutena or Dark Pit in high difficulty on the Wii U version... I remember too well the horror of facing Multi-Man Teams of Ness or Lucas in New Pork City while playing Classic on Intense.
 
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Most custom moves seem better than the normal specials, so while it does make it more interesting, I'm not sure how much it is in the realm of balance. I'd like to think that they are not allowed in "With Anyone" matches for a reason.
On the other hand, if you never saw the custom move before, you'll think they've "hacked" the game. Or at least some might. While the balance part is true, I think hurt feelings might play a role.
 

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On the other hand, if you never saw the custom move before, you'll think they've "hacked" the game. Or at least some might. While the balance part is true, I think hurt feelings might play a role.
Eh, I'd put the player at fault for not knowing about the custom moves. You can't NOT know your opponent well and expect to win.
 

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Ok, I've been having some pretty weird dreams ever since Friday night. Just last night I dreamt that nearly everyone on these boards had a deep genie avatar, then it shifts to Sheriff Woody and Buzz Lightyear out of all people were playable in smash 4. I guess this is what you get a three year wait for a Smash game is nearly over.
 

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Eh, I'd put the player at fault for not knowing about the custom moves. You can't NOT know your opponent well and expect to win.
That's the thing about "With Anyone". You don't know 'em. At least you gotta meet the other person to a degree "With Friends". That's probably why, since you have a better chance of knowing them and won't be too surprised. XD
 

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If both New Pork City and Temple return to the Wii U version, I will be overjoyed because I like large stages, but then I will realize the horror of hearing the announcer yell... "Versus... Team <Pick one: :4link::4zelda::4sheik::4ganondorf::4tlink::4ness::4pit::4palutena::4darkpit:>!"

Given past stages are now used in single player modes, I would really need to beware of Classic mode on harder difficulty levels. I remember once losing to Team Lucas in New Pork City on Intense difficulty Classic due to time running out.

What had been a great run, completely ruined by the awful combination of a Multi-Man Team + Large stage + High difficulty.

To make matters worse, this game has farther blast lines. Oh joy.
 
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If both New Pork City and Temple return to the Wii U version, I will be overjoyed because I like large stages, but then I will realize the horror of hearing the announcer yell... "Versus... Team <Pick one: :4link::4zelda::4sheik::4ganondorf::4tlink::4ness::4pit::4palutena::4darkpit:>!"

Given past stages are now used in single player modes, I would really need to beware of Classic mode on harder difficulty levels. I remember once losing to Team Lucas in New Pork City on Intense difficulty Classic due to time running out.

What had been a great run, completely ruined by the awful combination of a Multi-Man Team + Large stage + High difficulty.

To make matters worse, this game has farther blast lines. Oh joy.
Team Fire Emblem.
Ike with his sick range, Robin only uses his Thunder from a distance plus second sword Marth/Lucina. I think I'm gonna need to lie down.
 
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Skyrim.

"Why are you letting that wolf bite you continuously?"

"Stab Hadvar in the back, and he's like Jesus and forgive you every single time."

"I just screamed at a goat and it launched off a cliff!"

Skyrim.
 
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At another fishing trip since Gramps is too enthusiastic about catching fish during migrating season. Still wish the same thing could have been said for New Leaf, but the damn Nooklings doesn't have them in stock yet (Just another damn shovel and net). I hope they at least have a pole ready in three hours since that's when Nookling Junction would usually open.

On the subject of Hyrule Warriors, it's equally as fun as, if not, better than Samurai Warriors 3. I've managed to clear the first four levels and play free mode with the new Dark Link outfit. I'll be looking forward to playing more of it tomorrow.
 

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At another fishing trip since Gramps is too enthusiastic about catching fish during migrating season. Still wish the same thing could have been said for New Leaf, but the damn Nooklings doesn't have them in stock yet (Just another damn shovel and net). I hope they at least have a pole ready in three hours since that's when Nookling Junction would usually open.

On the subject of Hyrule Warriors, it's equally as fun as, if not, better than Samurai Warriors 3. I've managed to clear the first four levels and play free mode with the new Dark Link outfit. I'll be looking forward to playing more of it tomorrow.
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The Menu 2 song is so awesome. I really can't decide which version is better, whether the Melee original (also on Smash 3DS) or the Brawl remix. They both sound really good.

Original version (from the 3DS OST): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGNizFN_dOk
Brawl version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwtyJYUcChA

I like the instrumentation a little better in the original version, but I also like the extra parts the Brawl arrangement brought to the song.
 
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