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(Sliding) Dash Cancelled Grab Reversal.

SinkingHigher

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Hey :D

After trying to do that god-forsaken DACUS move, I found this. I don't know if it's been found already, and I haven't seen it done or mentioned, so apologies in advance if this is known already. Anyway, here is *basically* what happens:

Sheik dashes in one direction.
Turns around.
Grabs.

The reason sliding is in brackets is because 3 different things can happen depending on your timing with this move.

1. Sheik turns around and her momentum stops altogether. This is sort of like the 180 degree Falcon Punch. Since you prepared the grab while going in one direction, it takes less time to grab.

To do this: Dash in one direction, then dash in the opposite direction and hit Z at the same time - e.g. Dash Right >> (Dash Left + Z)
Timestamp: 0:12


2. Sheik turns around, dashes towards the opponent while preparing to grab, and then latches on immediately upon contact.

To do this: Dash in one direction, dash in the opposite direction, press Z once the dash registers. e.g. Dash Right >> Dash Left >> Z
Timestamp: 0:06


3. Sheik slides backwards, while grabbing in the other direction, much like the DPC (Dash Pivot Cancel).

To do this: This one if kinda tricky in terms of timing. You need to press Z IMMEDIATELY after dashing in the opposite direction. -- Dash Right >> Dash Left, quickly press Z.
Timestamp: 0:09


Here is a video of the three. They're done at different times, but you should be able to tell the difference. Timestamps are posted above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJiig-68dgw

(Apologies for the horrendous video quality. I can't figure out how to stop that flickering effect, and my camera was stolen so all I have left is a webcam.)

Basically, what this move allows you to do is be more accurate and quicker when trying to grab. When you are stationary and trying to grab, and your opponent sees you reaching or blocking, it's pretty obvious what you want to do. This move's flashiness helps catch them off guard. (No pun intended)

Anyway, that's pretty much it.
 

Xzax Kasrani

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isnt that pivoiting? like in melee/brawl when you run left/right, quickly tap the other drectio, then grab? thats how marth chaingrab'd in melee. Everyone can do it if i am not mistaken. If this is pivoiting everyone can. but from the explation it sounds like it. i cant see the video too well soo idk XD
 

JonBeBonanza

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This has been found and if I'm not mistaken it's called "pivot grabbing" but i think "reversed grab" sounds better. But this is applicable to all characters, and i actually use this in my all around playing style.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=pJpvYbLc94A

The match was boring due to awkward lag/delay... but at :51-:53 i do a quick one, and again at 2:30-2:32 ish and probabbly more throughout the vid. But it is a very useful technique, i find, but sorry to rain on your parade, i know it's exciting to think you found something new but you don't lol. This community finds things out very quickly.

Now if only we can find JC'd grabbing lol *sigh*
 

JonBeBonanza

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ye piot(inot a great speller) i used this is meleeall the time. so did other players
nice try tho
Spelling Bee champ if you ask me lol. But yeah that was "it" what i did in my vid right? The reason it may look different is cause different characters slide more than others, hence sheik. But it's all the same.

And sorry if my quality isn't as good as your's Sinking :p
 

Squidster

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There was a sliding reverse grab discovered awhile ago that was basically

Dash, turn around dash cancel grab (or something similar) that let you dash forward the direction you're running while grabbing behind you. Was useful for people like falco who could now turn around mid chain grab.

This is indeed old though
 

SinkingHigher

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Yeah, I should've figured since this is pretty simple to do it would have been found already.

Oh well. Thanks for all your posts. If any mods come around, feel free to delete/lock/whatever.
 
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