Simplest, cheapest way to win at Brawl

[Gatlin]

Ah, excuse me then. Let me explain.

The way I see it is that your goal in order to win is to get the other person off the edge and into the blast line to eliminate their stocks, right? So once you've hit someone off the edge (or even if they jump off the edge), you should try to stop them from getting back on the edge in any way you can. That means you should grab the edge, hit them when they return, go out and in hit them...just basically do whatever you can to deter them from getting back. I mean, that is truly how you win.

If you're playing Basketball and winning and there's 24 seconds left on the clock when you just got the ball, you just hold the ball. You don't just shoot it mindlessly to give the other team a chance to come back.

If you don't grab the edge, you're simply giving them a chance to come back. Perhaps one might say, "But I want to fight them on the stage with dignity!" Well, unless there are some actual rules that prevent you from getting on the edge and stopping their return, you should do so, because it's within the game's parameters. Not doing so just means you're making up rules for no reason.

In addition, when other people don't grab the edge or even try to hit me back off the edge, I'm a little frustrated because they're not trying all that they can be to win. There are times outside of tournament where I'll go down and up air my opponent to save him, but that is different from when you are, in essence, doing all that you can within the game's boundaries to win.

Is there anything I can touch upon to make it clearer, perhaps?

P.S. They aren't necessarily "easily" avoidable, but there are options against it, unless you are too far away from the stage.

No, haha that makes sense. I am not much of a competitive player at this point, but I guess I just feel more satisfaction from KO'ing them while on the stage as opposed to off. I pretty much went off-topic with my post though, seeing as the thread is asking what to do in terms of a tournament, which in case, I would edge hog. When casually playing though, I guess I just like to make it last, instead of trying to end their stocks as fast I can.

Btw, you go to UofA? What is the competitive scene like there? Are there hosts for both Melee and Brawl? I plan to transfer to UofA in next year's fall semester.

 

[GanonkingAbyss]

if you dont want them to hate u, u cant use mk for too long or only against certain ppl since they'll get tired of him really quick, ppl also really hate marth ike, sonic and chain grabbers. i'd say snake since its easy and most ppl don't think much of him

 

[Blarg I'm Dead]

I didn't mean for it to be Are you not annoyed when people do that?

To me it depends. If the other player is in complete control during edgeguarding and my only way back is sweetspotting the edge and he ledge hogs me it's like "Ok, good kill."

If I'm playing a character with a ****ty recovery and am offstage doing aerials but don't finish with a kill for whatever reason, the other player DI's out, I screw up spacing, etc. and he gets back onto the stage before I do and and jumps down to grab the ledge with invincibility frames it's like "Wow, **** you."

and for what it's worth (though I'm sure a month and a half later OP has figured out how to beat brawl casuals)

I generally play Brawl+ and Melee, but my university holds brawl tourneys as well. Some important things you may want to know.

The majority of people signing up will suck.
A few players will know how to play decently and will shield occasionally.
Some players who suck, may be intelligent and will catch on to using aerials and start to shield in later rounds.

Rules change a bit. In my experience 3-5 stocks is fairly common, items are usually on, and stages are either on random with every stage or pick a stage.

Items aren't huge problem, they work to your advantage more-so as casuals don't know that you can throw items usually.

Casuals like to pick stages like Corneria and Hyrule Temple so wall infinite jabs are fair game.

IMO the biggest advantage and thing that helps me adjust is knowing Brawl's changes and how they work.

I tend to play more defensive and space fairs/nair/dtilts (I play marth in brawl) than try for combos, even though some things still work like chained uptilts as most casuals don't know how to DI, or try to end up getting hit by something else.

Really, I just adjust my play style to accommodate brawl. I generally gimp and get back on stage via magnetic ledges then risk missing a spike, wait for opportunities, etc.

Casuals also tend to chase you into the air with their recovery moves in my experience as well as make other bad choices so opportunities to punish mistakes are rampant.

 

[Life]

I think we underestimate "casuals" just a tad. Pretty sure most of them will learn how to shield pretty quick, yeah?

Also, learn Dorf's item infinites, just for lolz.

 

[Gatlin]

I think we underestimate "casuals" just a tad. Pretty sure most of them will learn how to shield pretty quick, yeah?

Also, learn Dorf's item infinites, just for lolz.

I gotta agree with this, hah. I used to not use my shield at all, but I practiced using it a ton, and now I am pretty good with using it at all times. Just gotta work on using my reflector more. It might have to do completely with me replacing my Wiimote with a GC controller though, makes it 10x more convenient to play

 

[OkamiBW]

Shielding's really good in Brawl because of the lack of shield stun.

A Gamecube controller is always better than a Wii controller, imo. I would guess that at most real tournaments, people use GC controllers.

I'd still say, just play however dumb you can to annoy everyone who enters the tournament. Exploit all the dumb stuff in Brawl like the guaranteed chain grabs and camping especially. Remember that you're not there to make friends and especially not casual Brawl friends. If you want to make friends in the Smash community, go to Melee tournaments.

 

[BSP]

Brawl tournaments let you meet cool people too :o

Casuals can be decent. Just be safe and don't underestimate anyone.

 

[Sephy95]

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