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shuffling

d snyde

Smash Apprentice
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As shiek it is hard for me to shuffle. Any helpful hints to help my shuffling please add! I can do short hopping 1/4 the time I can do areials great, fast falling is easy L canceling is very hard for me to do right! Help
 

Killress

Smash Ace
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Aug 23, 2007
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As shiek it is hard for me to shuffle. Any helpful hints to help my shuffling please add! I can do short hopping 1/4 the time I can do areials great, fast falling is easy L canceling is very hard for me to do right! Help
Just practice. There's no big secret about it, just practice your shuffles.

Also, do not rush, and try to go as fast as the pros.

Go as fast as YOU can.
 

rhan

Smash Hero
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Everytime you use an "A" areial just hit L or R right before you hit the ground. To me, the hardest part of the SHFFL with Sheik is the short hop. :/
 

Toobz

Smash Journeyman
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Aug 14, 2007
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Apopka, FL
I have the same problem as well. I think its just that shiek takes a little bit longer to reach the pinnacle of her jump, so you have to wait longer before you fast fall. That, and if you don't fast fall, then shieks aerials are over before you hit the ground so you don't have to l cancel (maybe thats just her fair, actually). I just picked up shiek yesterday, and its kind of a weird transition since I main fox.
 

d snyde

Smash Apprentice
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Jul 31, 2008
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Yess! the UFO on fourside is a great place to learn shuffling!
Try it. :)
 

enza99

Smash Rookie
Joined
Aug 6, 2008
Messages
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i thot ufo was for wavedashing lol
but uhh i agree with soap find a rhythm i mean i cant exactly shffl with sheik (cause i cant seem to really be able to see the diff while doing it) but ive tried bowser to practice and u can like see the difference

also that thing about the fastfalling like for me i started as a fox and the fastfalls were alot earlier but sheiks jump is higher and u have to sorta wait... as for the short hop u just get used to it after a while...

i think my problem and probably most ppls r they cant l-cancel because its not as noticable and when u do notice it its kinda weird to follow it up because the delays gone and its just not what we're used to as in when u practice it its like weird... (i like to usually kinda find a thing on the screen i can measure but vertically idk wtf to do...)
 

bahamutz69

Smash Journeyman
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Oct 5, 2008
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Oakland, CA
yea for lcanceling you might actually be getting it and not noticing since shieks aerials have a pretty low frame count.
if u know that ur not getting it try practicing with link or bowser.
also ive found that with shiek if you short hop, wait till you reach your peak (do some empty short hop > FF first, just to check) then hit the desired aerial (use the c stick if you dont already) then fast fall and hit R (or L whatever) at the same time it seems to work well.

also soaps advice is really the key, once u can do it like 3 times in a row your fingers will adjust and it will start to feel more fluid. then in a week u wont even have to think about it :D
 
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