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SHTL (falco's lazuuur) SHQL (Fox's lazuuur) and needle cancel/boost

ADHD

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I was experimenting with some of the characters b moves.

With sheik, you can do a needle boost by running off the edge of a platform or stage and immediately shooting needles or a needle and you will get a horizontal boost. You can run off the edge, charging the needles, immediately cancel the charge by pressing L or R, and you still retain the boost and can go into an aerial or anything.

The needle cancel is a few frames or so before the needle boost happens, you shoot a needle and its immediately lagless after. You run, and before you slide off te edge, shoot a needle and the ending lag is finished.

With falco and fox, its simple. You just SH triple lazuur with falco and repeat, its a constant stream of lazuuurs that is extremely annoying and stuns your enemy.

With fox you just SH quadruple lazuuuur. This can be used as an approach move and I think its fun as hell.

^^^ the lazuuur stuff might be known but I'm sure the needle stuff isn't.
 

SpikeSpiegel19

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the laser stuff is but i'm not sure if we knew about the Needle boost, thats something u should mention in the copy thread

things are pretty organized here
 

psykoplympton

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the thing about falcos lasers is that kirby uses them better. since he is so close to the ground he can hit every one while disregarding height. and kirb can laser lock all chars unlike falco. and kirby lands without lag aswell so its a great approach. and with both falco and fox lasers he camps better the only hing that gets in the way is reflectors be we can still duck those if you know what your doing.
 

3xSwords

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ChromePirate are you saying to needle cancel you do it before you're about to slide off and you do a needle with no ending lag while still on the stage? And for SHTL and SHQL you're just jumping and spamming B and not utilizing the edge?
 

ADHD

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ChromePirate are you saying to needle cancel you do it before you're about to slide off and you do a needle with no ending lag while still on the stage? And for SHTL and SHQL you're just jumping and spamming B and not utilizing the edge?
Ok, right before you run off the edge shoot a needle, you should notice there isn't ending lag. Sometimes you go into an edgehog out of the needle cancel.

The needle stuff is really situational but its just something I wanted to point out.
 
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