Shifty Peaches...

[ianlacy]

So here's the dilemma. I just picked up Falco not too long ago, but my only competition is a super evasive Peach player, and I hardly get to play them so it becomes difficult to learn his playing style.

I cannot rush him because of Peach's priority, topped off with the fact that he likes to dodge down and immediately dsmash-- or jc grab me, throw down/forward and dsmash/dash attack into a super shifty peach combo that I can't DI or tech out of until 65-80%. Therefore, shl approaches, or any air approach is negated. Also, as everyone knows, it's impossible to roll around Peach, especially when said Peach is a dsmash *****.

Another problem lies within Peach's turnips. If my Falco gets off the edge, and I want to lhdl, or drop-wall-tech-phantasm back on stage, I can't because a turnip has already collided with my face, and another one is on it's way to takeout my firebird/whatever-else recover. The kid is great at spacing.

Fortunately he's not a very technical Peach player, and doesn't utilize her air priority much. I've also noticed that the timing between Peach's air moves is fairly long so I can utilize that to my advantage.... occasionally... whenever the shifty-***** leaves the ground.

Does anyone have any advice or experience when it comes to playing the floating princess of death with a style similar to this? I find it moderately aggravating, and sometimes disheartening that he keeps 3-stocking me.

 

[Roman.]

If you're close enough to the stage during your recovery, you could air dodge through the turnip. Also, shine the turnups and hopefully it will hit that peach or atleast confuse him. If you really want to get fancy, try to time it right so you catch the turnip in the air (Z) and sweetspot the edge.

 

[SCOTU]

sounds like you're vary easy to read (at least for this peach). you have to mix up your playing, if he turnips based on what you're going to do off the edge, do something different. also, approach him in a way that makes him spot dodge, see this, and don't actually attack, instead fsmash, and this will own his spot dodge in the face. don't do it every time though, you can't afford to be predictable (i used to play a peach that sounds exactly like this one, and i didn't used to win the matchup back then because i'd always do the same stuff, but i bet i'd do better now)

 

[ianlacy]

Thanks for the advice so far guys.

I try to not be too predictable when I play, however I fear you're right in stating that I probably am. The off-edge turnips aren't necessarily geared towards what I'm doing to get back on the stage... they're just properly placed such that I can't hold onto the ledge passed the invincibility frames. Le'sigh. *shrug*

I do value the advice however; anything to make me a better rounded player is dually appreciated.

 

[d_shep04]

you probably need to change your playing style up... he has probably played you too much and now your playing style better than you... but really... i personally love playing against peach and capt. falcon... it's just something about it... but anyways... spacing against peach is VERY effective... and shl your but off... especially fighting against her... and if you throw in a couple of waveshines every now and then... who know's when a turnip is coming... and most likely it will hit her... or confuse your opponent... i haven't played a peach character in a while... but i think that you can shoot those turnips with your gun (that might be sheik only with her shuriken{needles}) and that should stop them from reaching you... i cant really remember... b/c it's been about 2/3 months since i played a peach character... hmph... if you play aggressive against peach... you want to be all over her... where ever she goes.. you wanna be there first... wavedash your butt off if your gonna play aggressive against her... especially if you play on stages that have platforms... so you can b-air her when ever she hit's the platform... and make sure your air game is on point... make sure that when she jumps/ floats... you are shooting your butt off...