Shielding, Rolling, and the sidestep: NOTICE ANY DIFFERENCE?

[Girl]

So im sure most of you have seen the shielding (and rolling/sidestep) update. Just wanted to open up discussion: what do you guys think--is it any different? Discuss

 

[Mini Mic]

No different imo

 

[myRoboticClaw]

"Use these moves as much as you can even before you get used to them. Sometimes things become clearer that way."

What does this mean?

 

[Misto-Roboto]

Anyone notice Samus looked like she hopped in that side-step?

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

Maybe with Brawl, we can fix the term "sidestep". Even Melee called it a sidestep. WhereTF "spot dodge" came from is beyond me. >_>

 

[Kaburii]

"Use these moves as much as you can even before you get used to them. Sometimes things become clearer that way."

What does this mean?

Spam them until you get used to doing it...ie. advice for beginner players.

 

[pyrochemical]

ok they didn't say which button to use. But i think it will be Z ?

 

[:034:]

Well. In the second trailer, we could see Snake apparently rolling (questionable, since he didn't bring up his shield), with pretty high speed. We also saw Pit moving sideways to attack Zero Suit Samus, IIRC. Pit dodged amazingly fast.

We can't see it from the screenshots given on the dojo, but it might just be a lot faster this time around. I certainly hope it is anyway.

 

[Link Sharingan]

Well. In the second trailer, we could see Snake apparently rolling (questionable, since he didn't bring up his shield), with pretty high speed. We also saw Pit moving sideways to attack Zero Suit Samus, IIRC. Pit dodged amazingly fast.

We can't see it from the screenshots given on the dojo, but it might just be a lot faster this time around. I certainly hope it is anyway.

well in melee if you were fast enougth the shield dint apear wend rolling,ect

 

[fatmactk]

The bubble shields look much cooler...

 

[pud22]

ok they didn't say which button to use. But i think it will be Z ?

matters what controller u use

 

[EM48]

"And they make you momentarily invincible, so using them proactively is OK."

This means to me that you are invincible for a short period AFTER the roll ends... which seems terrible to me (can't punish someone at the end of a roll)

 

[pyrochemical]

matters what controller u use

Wii mote + nunchuk.

 

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

Sakurai is exaggerating on the extent of the perks that the rolling gives. Don't think that you're now invincible after the roll, probably just means the part where you roll, which is the same as Melee.
The bubble shield looks pretty much the same, maybe a little shinier, although bigger, because there are a lot more tall characters now, so I assume Sakurai realized he can't give all of them small shields.

"Spot dodging" came from when people started using "air dodging" for the aerial sidestep move. And I know air dodging is used more often, so I can only assume that it the 'dodging' part of the name just jumped from the aerial to the ground version. In fact, I completely forgot that it's actually called sidestep. At least, that's my opinion on it.

 

[sirusorion]

I think its just invincible during the roll.
Maybe bigger characters will have a longer invincible period

 

[Gilgamesh]

Argh, some of you see hidden signs in every little thing Sakurai says... Most of the time it's just a literal message, and doesn't mean anything else!

 

[Kashakunaki]

I agree with Gilgamesh. Chill.

The shields look a lot cooler, though, IMO.

 

[SmashChu]

Sakurai means that by dodging, your invincible because you don't get hit.

 

[volbound1700]

I actually hate shielding/dodging... wish it wasn't in Melee.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Everyone dodges differently. So far, Bowser has the worst dodging capabilities.

 

[5@/\/\U5]

I actually hate shielding/dodging... wish it wasn't in Melee.

what else what you suggest in terms of defense? or would you not replace shielding/dodging at all?

 

[Kirby knight]

what else what you suggest in terms of defense? or would you not replace shielding/dodging at all?

Please don't reply to him. A majority of his posts are flamebait; he's doing it on purpose give him no mind.

-Knight

 

[Exorcist]

Not surprised no one has commeneted on it, but I have noticed one thing.(not major)

In melee you knew someone was invincible for a split second while rolling because they glowed white just a tad(also applies for pressing R at the ledge), but in Brawl thusfar this white glow is missing. Maybe they didn't want to show it in the trailers, or maybe its out for good.

Again, nothing major and we'll all get use to it, but it is a difference.

Also, siderolling is said to be awesome by Sakurai only because he's noob friendly and casual players get massive wood from siderolling and sidedodging. There still will be a slight window of end lag afterward, if not it'd be absolutely ridiculous. Don't give it much thought, it's the same as in Melee.

 

[Takeshi245]

The rolling may be faster, but if predicted, can still be punishable. It'll be fun beating roll spammers.

 

[2007]

it looks like pwnage to me.

 

[The Bino]

"And they make you momentarily invincible, so using them proactively is OK."

This means to me that you are invincible for a short period AFTER the roll ends... which seems terrible to me (can't punish someone at the end of a roll)

Go into Melee and do a Roll, you are momentarily invincible when you are rolling, hence the reason it is a used to dodge an attack, once the roll ends you are no longer invincible and can be attacked, even with some ppl while doing rolls in Melee during the roll you can notice when they are no longer invincible and can attack them with a Dsmash if you are right next to them or with any other well timed attack