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Sheik Critique Pwease
- Thread starter The Good Doctor
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The Good Doctor
Smash Champion
anyone have any suggestions?
I.B
Smash Lord
D-throw tech chase. do it. Regrab, falcon's pretty helpless against it, if you're too lazy to memorize the tech animations, get faster reflexes or f-tilt sometimes because f-tilt is really good, knocks over if they try to cc, etc. Dash attack is also a good lazy way to hit tech rolls.
F-tilt is okay, but I prefer D-tilt sometimes because if he tries to be clever with fakeouts or delayed raptor boosts, you're ducking. In addition, cc is broken and D-tilt has surprisingly good vertical range despite being a "down" move.
Poof stalls are easymode, get more tech skill. No nervous johns.
I used to think FJ aerial approach is the **** too. But it's not. Stick to the ground against Falcon or you will realize his legs are long. And his Uair is good. If you must do high aerials, try to have a platform to fall on (less time in air vulnerable) or do back air.
Approaching with Sheik in general is bad.
More later.
Oh yeah this is KK.
F-tilt is okay, but I prefer D-tilt sometimes because if he tries to be clever with fakeouts or delayed raptor boosts, you're ducking. In addition, cc is broken and D-tilt has surprisingly good vertical range despite being a "down" move.
Poof stalls are easymode, get more tech skill. No nervous johns.
I used to think FJ aerial approach is the **** too. But it's not. Stick to the ground against Falcon or you will realize his legs are long. And his Uair is good. If you must do high aerials, try to have a platform to fall on (less time in air vulnerable) or do back air.
Approaching with Sheik in general is bad.
More later.
Oh yeah this is KK.
The Good Doctor
Smash Champion
This was my first actual tournament, so nervous johns are expected. I tried doing the tech chase re-grab, alot of the time though I wasn't fast enough. I can't SH with Sheik for ****, I have no idea why it is...
Thanks for the advice.
kk?
Thanks for the advice.
kk?
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
KirbyKaze.
The Good Doctor
Smash Champion
ok then, haha
I.B
Smash Lord
KK again
get some tech skill then son
sh aerials with sheik are a good way to do them
not gonna give a full critique, just what stood out.
KK got it already but I saw a lot of fj aerials (just echoing).
Your edge game seems weak. As in you could have ledge hop bair'd falcon a lot. And you were very cautious getting to the ledge (by turning around on stage, jumping backwards off the stage and catching the ledge).
I don't think there was ever a time where you needed to be on the ledge any faster (and if you would have lost stocks for any other method then you did it right I guess) but wd off or sh -> reverse needle cancel is much faster (and popular with the ladies).
tl;dr get comfortable with the edge of the stage.
and it doesn't seem like you use needles much.
There were a few times you were near the edge and tried to fthrow off (thats what it looked like, I know you accidentally fthrew a few times though) and I wanted to echo some advice th0rn gave to me, that against falcon, just dthrow tech chase till your dash attack can pop them up for fairs, then do that.
Or back throw off stage I'm sure, but fthrow......
as for learning how to sh with any character, I find the best way to do it is to go to training, 2x that speed and try your ****edest to sh. It's great.
KK got it already but I saw a lot of fj aerials (just echoing).
Your edge game seems weak. As in you could have ledge hop bair'd falcon a lot. And you were very cautious getting to the ledge (by turning around on stage, jumping backwards off the stage and catching the ledge).
I don't think there was ever a time where you needed to be on the ledge any faster (and if you would have lost stocks for any other method then you did it right I guess) but wd off or sh -> reverse needle cancel is much faster (and popular with the ladies).
tl;dr get comfortable with the edge of the stage.
and it doesn't seem like you use needles much.
There were a few times you were near the edge and tried to fthrow off (thats what it looked like, I know you accidentally fthrew a few times though) and I wanted to echo some advice th0rn gave to me, that against falcon, just dthrow tech chase till your dash attack can pop them up for fairs, then do that.
Or back throw off stage I'm sure, but fthrow......
as for learning how to sh with any character, I find the best way to do it is to go to training, 2x that speed and try your ****edest to sh. It's great.