Seriously..why is Nintendo not making a "Melee Mode" DLC?

[Supersmashbrothers.]

Nice ****post.

It's not intended to satisfy the people who wouldn't like it anyway. That's why it's DLC. That's why it's optional. Just shut up. Lol

Calm down, Melee extremist. It was a little joke not

 

[The Slayer]

The focus of the one game would be split.

And of course, Sakurai hates DLC to the point where the only official source to call Mewtwo DLC is unreliable NoE.

I don't recall him saying he hates DLC. He just prefers the game to feel completed and well-made as much as possible to the point DLC won't matter too much in the long run. The game to me (and a whole lot others) is still pretty decent even without Mewtwo right now.

 

[Dr. James Rustles]

Calm down, Melee extremist. It was a little joke not

I don't actually play Melee, though. Nor am I a melee extremist, lol! Look at my sig. There's a guide for Smash Bros. in general down there.

Don't try to avoid criticism for ****posting by fabricating stuff about someone.

 

[Tobi_Whatever]

On a second thought, this thread should be locked. Nothing but ****posting will come out of it and it will keep people from saying more extremely stupid things.

 

[Supersmashbrothers.]

I don't actually play Melee, though. Nor am I a melee extremist, lol! Look at my sig. There's a guide for Smash Bros. in general down there.

Don't try to avoid criticism for ****posting by fabricating stuff about someone.

I'm not avoiding criticism, you were being overly hostile.

 

[Dr. James Rustles]

I'm not avoiding criticism, you were being overly hostile.

You said something extremely dumb and irrelevant. Telling you the truth isn't being hostile.

$20 is probably a little high for these changes, though.

 

[Smash_Veteran_Amtoj]

Not worth the effort.

 

[Munomario777]

Because it would only have an extremely niche audience (those who really can't get over Smash 4's controls and appreciate it being its own thing) compared to the core game's audience (most Nintendo fans as well as other gamers).

 

[Supersmashbrothers.]

You said something extremely dumb and irrelevant. Telling you the truth isn't being hostile.

$20 is probably a little high for these changes, though.

I talked about Melee, therefore my comment was not Irrelevant. And the whole Idea of a "Melee mode" just sounds dumb to me. But I'll leave this thread now. Have fun discussing Melee coming to the Wii U.

 

[Smash_Veteran_Amtoj]

You know, if we get this, then I demand a Brawl Mode.

 

[Dr. James Rustles]

I talked about Melee, therefore my comment was not Irrelevant. And the whole Idea of a "Melee mode" just sounds dumb to me. But I'll leave this thread now. Have fun discussing Melee coming to the Wii U.

You thinking Melee is overrated actually has nothing to do with why Nintendo would or would not make a Melee mode. You're either flaming or painfully oblivious.

Because it would only have an extremely niche audience (those who really can't get over Smash 4's controls and appreciate it being its own thing) compared to the core game's audience (most Nintendo fans as well as other gamers).

Maybe, but you have to consider the people that would most continually re-invest money in the series are the people that would play intensely it over a long period of time (its competitive players) as opposed to maybe the first few months (the usual Smash junkies). As for its efficacy, consider that Project Melee surpassed its base game Brawl in tournament attendance this past year...

 

[Raijinken]

Because you can already go play Melee if you have it and prefer it.

And odds are pretty good that "soon" they'll add Gamecube games to Virtual Console, likely including Melee early.

And because it's against Sakurai's goals with the game.

 

[Munomario777]

Maybe, but you have to consider the people that would most continually re-invest money in the series are the people that would play intensely it over a long period of time (its competitive players) as opposed to maybe the first few months (the usual Smash junkies). As for its efficacy, consider that Project Melee surpassed its base game Brawl in tournament attendance this past year...

Time played =/= sales. Tournament attendance =/= sales. I think a "Melee Mode" would be interesting, don't get me wrong, but I can see why there's not one in the works, from a financial standpoint. Plus, Sakurai did say the way that Melee ended up was an "accident."

 

[LancerStaff]

I don't recall him saying he hates DLC. He just prefers the game to feel completed and well-made as much as possible to the point DLC won't matter too much in the long run. The game to me (and a whole lot others) is still pretty decent even without Mewtwo right now.

He won't admit Mewtwo is DLC, and he has stated in the past that is was ruining the industry. I wouldn't exactly say he's in support of it...

 

[Altea77]

The reasons some people are giving on here are absolutely ridiculous. Yes Sm4sh is its own game, but that doesn't mean it can't have a mode offering a different gameplay style. Especially if that mode is a completely optional DLC. Who cares about community splits? Is it wrong to let people play the game the way they want to play it? Before you tell Melee fans to go back to Melee, think for a second. You enjoy getting new smash games. Why would Melee fans not? They want the new characters, stages and features too. They don't want to keep having to go back to the old gamecube forever.

The real reason why this DLC would never happen is because not enough people want it. Melee doesn't have a big enough fanbase to spawn a DLC that Nintendo doesn't want. So stop making this about Melee vs Sm4sh.

 

[Raijinken]

He won't admit Mewtwo is DLC, and he has stated in the past that is was ruining the industry. I wouldn't exactly say he's in support of it...

To be fair, we haven't yet confirmed that Mewtwo will be paid DLC (or if we have, please correct me), it could be an early bonus for people who got both, and get patched to everyone later.

And besides. If we heard ten years ago that we'd have to pay five dollars for a reskin for one character, we'd have near-boycotted a company for that (not literally, but that was the attitude). And these days when a dev offers an "expansion pack", people are constantly debating whether it's an expansion's worth of content or if it's just overpriced DLC.

The reasons some people are giving on here are absolutely ridiculous. Yes Sm4sh is its own game, but that doesn't mean it can't have a mode offering a different gameplay style. Especially if that mode is a completely optional DLC. Who cares about community splits? Is it wrong to let people play the game the way they want to play it? Before you tell Melee fans to go back to Melee, think for a second. You enjoy getting new smash games. Why would Melee fans not? They want the new characters, stages and features too. They don't want to keep having to go back to the old gamecube forever.

The real reason why this DLC would never happen is because not enough people want it. Melee doesn't have a big enough fanbase to spawn a DLC that Nintendo doesn't want. So stop making this about Melee vs Sm4sh.

Generally speaking, all of the Melee fans I know just want an HD Melee remake, not a new game with Melee's mechanics. After all, if it's not identical, there's re-learning to do, and that defeats the purpose of a six-character viable roster.

</sarcasm>

That's the best argument, really. The demand isn't big enough. Most people who like Melee own Melee, or have pirated it and thus proven they really don't want to help Nintendo in that regard anyway.

 

[Dr. James Rustles]

Time played =/= sales. Tournament attendance =/= sales. I think a "Melee Mode" would be interesting, don't get me wrong, but I can see why there's not one in the works, from a financial standpoint. Plus, Sakurai did say the way that Melee ended up was an "accident."

It's like you didn't even read what I wrote. Consider how long GameCube originals have been sold just for a "niche" audience - enough to warrant a reprint for the new Smash release. I'm pretty sure Amazon sales between competitive players are the motivator and Nintendo clearly wanted a slice of the pie.

The reasons some people are giving on here are absolutely ridiculous. Yes Sm4sh is its own game, but that doesn't mean it can't have a mode offering a different gameplay style. Especially if that mode is a completely optional DLC. Who cares about community splits? Is it wrong to let people play the game the way they want to play it? Before you tell Melee fans to go back to Melee, think for a second. You enjoy getting new smash games. Why would Melee fans not? They want the new characters, stages and features too.

The real reason why this DLC would never happen is because not enough people want it. Melee doesn't have a big enough fanbase to spawn a DLC that Nintendo doesn't want. So stop making this about Melee vs Sm4sh.

Yeah. Most people wanted a fun game to play - new characters with new abilities often isn't enough to make up for the game in general being less enjoyable. There's nothing wrong with wanting both.

 

[LancerStaff]

To be fair, we haven't yet confirmed that Mewtwo will be paid DLC (or if we have, please correct me), it could be an early bonus for people who got both, and get patched to everyone later.

And besides. If we heard ten years ago that we'd have to pay five dollars for a reskin for one character, we'd have near-boycotted a company for that (not literally, but that was the attitude). And these days when a dev offers an "expansion pack", people are constantly debating whether it's an expansion's worth of content or if it's just overpriced DLC.

Unreliable NoE said you could pay for it... But I wouldn't believe them after all the other screw-ups. Like the GC adaptor misinformation.

 

[Munomario777]

It's like you didn't even read what I wrote. Consider how long GameCube originals have been sold just for a "niche" audience - enough to warrant a reprint for the new Smash release. I'm pretty sure Amazon sales between competitive players are the motivator and Nintendo clearly wanted a slice of the pie.



Yeah. Most people wanted a fun game to play - new characters with new abilities often isn't enough to make up for the game in general being less enjoyable. There's nothing wrong with wanting both.

Your points were that the competitive players would play for longer with the theoretical DLC, rather than the "casual" crowd, and that tournaments would be more popular with it. I read those things being said, and provided a counter argument. If everyone already has Melee, why would they buy a Wii U, Smash, and the DLC (which would ultimately be Nintendo's goal with this theoretical DLC) to play the game so many of them already bought (as illustrated by your point that the original sold well enough to warrant a reprint)? Also, how is Smash Wii U less enjoyable than Melee? If it's not your personal preference, that doesn't objectively make the game less enjoyable.

 

[Deleted member]

It'd be nice, but that'd be a tremendous task to make two whole engines for one game combined with all the characters.

I have a better idea:

Super Smash Bros. Melee HD

 

[Ffamran]

They are potentially making a "Melee Mode" DLC. It's called Super Smash Bros. Melee on Virtual Console.

 

[Cactusblah]

Melee purists don't even like PM, the mod that did exactly this with Brawl. They only like melee.

What Nintendo should do is add new characters and stages, including all of the 3DS stages for the Wii U version.

 

[Khao]

There is such a thing as too many options, and an option that completely changes the base mechanics of the game for the simple reason that "some may like it" is taking things way too far, especially in a multiplayer game.

In the end something like this it'll just end up hurting the game and the community.

 

[TheArabSamurai]

Didn't Sakurai say something like even if he tried he wouldn't be able to make Melee the same again, not even he knows how he did it.

 

[Naoshi]

Calm down, Melee extremist. It was a little joke not

Coming in to the thread with a trollbait post that contributes absolutely nothing but trouble and then call anyone a Melee "extremist" (really?) for calling you out on that behavior?

Yeah, that's real quality posting there, pal.

 

[guedes the brawler]

i think it was a misse dopportunity if they brought back lag cancel via equipment, if they had brough directional air dodge and something that made dash dancing easier you guys'd have your melee mode buildss; especially if we had an defense/speed badge that balances out the Smooth Lander you get for clearing the "get all customs" challenge

 

[Khao]

Didn't Sakurai say something like even if he tried he wouldn't be able to make Melee the same again, not even he knows how he did it.

He could be able to recreate Melee, there's not much you can do wrong when trying to do that.

What he can't do is make a new game (meaning, different mechanics) that would prove to be as competitively successful as Melee was, Melee status as a competitive game was a complete accident, and Sakurai admits he wouldn't be able to make something like that on purpose.

 

[LunarWingCloud]

Taking my +1 and leaving this bait thread.

If you wanna play Melee, play Melee. I'll be enjoying Smash 4 though.

 

[ryuu seika]

I would much rather that Nintendo simply rereleases Melee with updated graphics and online features as a thing on the eShop, then keeps them as two seperate entities.

Fix a few things, maybe add a few characters. I'd be happy with that.

 

[Flaxr XIII]

It'd be nice, but that'd be a tremendous task to make two whole engines for one game combined with all the characters.

I have a better idea:

Super Smash Bros. Melee HD

Wasn't it announced that it was hard to port over Melee stuff since the data was really old?

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

this is just dynamite ready to explode; even if it wasn't the OP's intention. I will be closing this up to avoid any further derailment and flaming.