Rumor: Nintendo getting the World's best Smashers to test/balance Brawl?

[Speedsk8er]

I've heard rumors of this happening and I was thinking that it would be great if it were true. If this were true, who do you think Sakurai brought over to test it? Ken? Chudat? Azen? M2K? Captain Jack? Aniki? Masashi?

One of the places that I heard this rumor was on one of my favorite podcasts, 1Up Yours. It's at the 1:14:47 mark where Shane Bettenhausen mentions that Nintendo brought in some of the world's best players to check it out.

What do you guys think and if this were true, would the players be able to speak on this? Or is it embargoed?

 

[Pyroloserkid]

I don't think Sakurai would bring in only the best. Than the game would be made for the competitive players and not for the casual fans. Sakurai is making this a FANS game. Maybe he'd have SOME pro Melee players, maybe one or two, but the rest would just be average joe's or his team imo.

I want this game to be as competitive as Melee, but I don't want it to be competitive to the point where that's the only way to play it. Sakurai is making this game with items, illegal stages, and the like I presume. If they were going to have pro testers, there should be 25 casual players for every pro tester.

 

[Speedsk8er]

LOL, if we find out who did the testing, we could ask whether Wavedashing is in.

>_> <_<

Get to work, people.

 

[DSB]

If they were allowed to speak about it before release it'd be great. If not, I wouldn't give a rat's ***.

 

[Pyroloserkid]

LOL, if we find out who did the testing, we could ask whether Wavedashing is in.

>_> <_<

Get to work, people.

TO YOUTUBE!

 

[SirroMinus1]

YAY 200 POST But that would be cool

 

[WhiteOblv]

seriously people jus wait for the game its almost here. >_>

 

[Pyroloserkid]

YAY 200 POST But that would be cool

You spam just about as much as I do.


If no one else is going to discuss this topic intelligently, I'd like to see it closed.

 

[Speedsk8er]

You spam just about as much as I do.


If no one else is going to discuss this topic intelligently, I'd like to see it closed.

You heard the man(or woman). Please discuss.


What do you think would be under embargo if Nintendo did recruit the world's best? I'm sure that characters, etc would be but would techniques be under embargo also? What about items?

 

[maxpower1227]

If they were allowed to speak about it before release it'd be great. If not, I wouldn't give a rat's ***.

I guarantee there would be some serious NDA action going on there.

 

[Pyroloserkid]

You heard the man(or woman). Please discuss.


What do you think would be under embargo if Nintendo did recruit the world's best? I'm sure that characters, etc would be but would techniques be under embargo also? What about items?

Thank you. I'm male by the way.

Anyways. Are we talking about whether the testers are ALL melee pro's?

 

[Adi]

If anyone it's not going to be American pros, considering that most of them are still involved in the tournament scene and we would have heard of some sudden disappearnaces. And to those who are saying that they wouldn't bring pros in because the game is being made from a casual standpoint is clueless. A casual game is so ridiculously easy to make, all you have to do is throw in a bunch of graphically appealing characters and some cool looking items are satisfied. However in order to create a game that is balanced and has a large level of depth requires testing that explores every possible aspect of the game.

 

[Pyroloserkid]

If anyone it's not going to be American pros, considering that most of them are still involved in the tournament scene and we would have heard of some sudden disappearnaces. And to those who are saying that they wouldn't bring pros in because the game is being made from a casual standpoint is clueless. A casual game is so ridiculously easy to make, all you have to do is throw in a bunch of graphically appealing characters and some cool looking items are satisfied. However in order to create a game that is balanced and has a large level of depth requires testing that explores every possible aspect of the game.

Agreed. But then it also wouldn't be Japanese pro's either. Because then the Japanese would be wondering where everyone went.
If we go by this than there will be NO pro's playtesting Brawl lol.

I agree with the whole "a casual game is easy to make" thing though. But do you really think Sakurai needs to hire pro Melee players to make Brawl as competitive as Melee?
Did he hire pro SSB64 players to test Melee? I highly doubt it, and look at Melee.

 

[SubparSmashBrother]

I don't think Sakurai would bring in only the best. Than the game would be made for the competitive players and not for the casual fans. Sakurai is making this a FANS game. Maybe he'd have SOME pro Melee players, maybe one or two, but the rest would just be average joe's or his team imo.

I want this game to be as competitive as Melee, but I don't want it to be competitive to the point where that's the only way to play it. Sakurai is making this game with items, illegal stages, and the like I presume. If they were going to have pro testers, there should be 25 casual players for every pro tester.

Why do people assume that competetive players absolutely hate items, and only like final destination? Even if they did, I'm sure they'd relize the world doesn't revolve around them, especially in business. I'm also sure if it were made by competetive players they'd make pretty awesome stuff that casual players enjoy, too.

My opinion is that Sakurai's team has mainly Melee-obsessed fanboys who are good at coding. Not necessarily 'pros'.

 

[RokkuManZer0]

seriously people jus wait for the game its almost here. >_>

WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? IT'S MORE THEN 3 MONTHS AWAY. *pulls out hair*

Seriously, I'm anxious for this game. I'm buying a Wii for this game. And it isn't almost here. Europe's launch date is 2008 TBA.

 

[RyuDragonKing]

Testers are staff only. I think I've mentioned this before, but my friend has a testing job for Nintendo, and he tried for a position to play Brawl, but he was told that the only testers were people already on the team. Rumor squashetized.

 

[FlatSoda]

Hmm, even if this is true, the testers probably signed some sort of contract. A contract to not release any information or something in that nature. If he brought in the worlds best players, to just someone found in the city. I highly doubt talking about it here, or even that they'll leak anything out, we still will get no more than what we already know.

 

[Kashimaru]

LOL thats not gonna happen, but if it would.. i say M2K

 

[nuro]

This is an obvious lie. I don't think Sakurai needs any pro players. I am sure that Sakurai knows well about a lot of the game even more so than the pros do. I remember that at E3 for melee bowser was said to be a very cheap character so Sakurai toned him down in order to make up for it. Now that the game is released bowser blows. Just trust the guy he isn't the one who made the game for nothing.

Besides he owned Kojima enough said.

just kidding but seriously I don't think we will see captain jack or massashi helping out Sakurai any time soon. This was just made to spark some attention in that podcast or whatever don't take it seriously. I am not going to believe an American podcast that comes from a backseat gaming website the connection it has with Sakurai is near nil.

 

[Smash G 0 D]

I doubt Nintendo would let anyone but themselves test out the game. If any pro, then I'd have to say Azen.

 

[Drake3]

I doubt it, but I'd really love them to. If the pro players got to test the game, they would be able to see if you could exploit anything that you shouldn't be able to. They'd be like what a proof-reader would be to an author. The actual players, like hardcore ones, have a different way of thinking than the developers or testers do and would probably be able to find things that were missed. I doubt we were ever supposed to wavedash.

 

[MookieRah]

It's definitely somebodies pipedream. It would be nice if they did get the pros to help balance.

@people thinking this would make the game more competitive: Nope. I say this because the pros will be able to utilize the characters and uncover unintended mechanics as well as anything potentially broken with the characters much faster than your average player. It would only serve to better balance the game if it was done by experienced players. That's not to say that Nintendo wouldn't have a general balance in play for casual play, but the pros would expand on that.

 

[Pyroloserkid]

Testers are staff only. I think I've mentioned this before, but my friend has a testing job for Nintendo, and he tried for a position to play Brawl, but he was told that the only testers were people already on the team. Rumor squashetized.

See, but then how are we supposed to believe you?
You saying this means nothing if there's not solid proof.
No offence, I'm just being logical.

 

[Deleted member]

Agreed. But then it also wouldn't be Japanese pro's either. Because then the Japanese would be wondering where everyone went.
If we go by this than there will be NO pro's playtesting Brawl lol.

LMAO.

You forgot Poland!

Maybe European pros will be drafted in?

Nah, I hate the idea of bringing in 'pros', mainly because there is no true definition of what makes a pro at Smash anyway. In games like Soul Calibur or Tekken, its fairly easy to define that, but Smash is one of the most flexible games ever made.

Besides, a pro would make the game into his vision, not ours.

EDIT: ZOMG MookieRah!

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? IT'S MORE THEN 3 MONTHS AWAY. *pulls out hair*

This made me lol

thank you

I think bringing in people like Chu, Ken, Isai, whatever, people of that calibur of skill in melee to test brawl would be the best possible thing for its development.

These gods of smash have an understanding of the game that goes even beyond those of the developers themselves, they could very acuratly provide feedback for brawl, and hopefully bring up the wavedashing issue, and tell the developers that it should be left in the game.

But it sounds like a pipe dream to me. I Heard awhile ago that his team consists of people who have like over 1000 hours each on their melee data, that wasnt a rumor it was official info.

I doubt these people are the pro smashers that we know and praise though. If only.. if only....

It's definitely somebodies pipedream

LOL I didnt read your post until after I posted mine.. Funny stuff Mookie

 

[Leobenmc]

I heard it on 1upyours as well (Can't wait to hear the PAX Live one this Friday) - so I can only assume and hope it is true Shane Bettenhausen has a admirable habit of being right a lot of the time.
What would be embargoed? (Lack of) Online! Jeez - the most disputed and argued potential feature in Brawl, moreso than WD!

 

[Bli33ard]

To be honest, I'd rather an official test team do their part rather than pro players.

 

[SSJ4Kazuki]

Did he hire pro SSB64 players to test Melee? I highly doubt it, and look at Melee.

Yes, he did. That's where Kirby and Ness ended up with their big nerfs.

 

[Neanderthal]

*Waits for someone to claim they were contancted by Nintendo to test out Brawl*

 

[Pluvia's other account]

I think it's a load of rubbish, just a fantasy that we want to believe.

 

[User33]

This is the executive editor of EGM. He wouldn't just make it up. He knows a lot about the industry, and is almost always right.

 

[RyuDragonKing]

See, but then how are we supposed to believe you?
You saying this means nothing if there's not solid proof.
No offence, I'm just being logical.

Because I'm not a troll and I'm not a liar. >.> I've already proven it to a couple people.

But it doesn't matter, cuz even if I WAS mistaken, we won't be getting any info on Brawl from any testers. They'd get thrown in jail for it. ^^

 

[Speedsk8er]

This was just made to spark some attention in that podcast or whatever don't take it seriously. I am not going to believe an American podcast that comes from a backseat gaming website the connection it has with Sakurai is near nil.

1Up doesn't NEED anymore attention. It's already huge. They only spent about 5 seconds on THAT subject. They didn't make a huge deal of it. It only stuck out ot me because I'm a huge smash bros fan...

>_> <_<

 

[bluebomber22]

i hope u guys realize it takes a while to test a game out. its not like they could just gather all of the players together and have thme play for a couple hours and give them their judgement. First off it will take some time for the highly competetive players some time to reach the same level in brawl that they were at in melee and ssb64. So their review of the game will be moot with limited playing time. Secondly, i cant imagine any product testing coming from outside of Nintendo for brawl. Really not even outside of Japan. If they did consult highly skilled players, theyd all be japanese trust me. If they didnt even make an English web poll, why would they consult AMERICAN players? This idea is too farfecthed to me.

On the chance that I'm wrong, we wouldnt get any info out of this anyway

 

[Inkslinger]

m2k will be the perfect tester. If only...