Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[TheLastJinjo]

I really don't think he's listening no matter what we say. We're better off just changing the topic entirely. What matters is that we can all agree that at least one person in this thread is wrong. I think that's the best we're going to get out of this.

What do we all say about this guy?

To this guy no, Also you are once again saying an OPINION is wrong, again a feeble and un-adultway to prove your point. The ONLY people NOT listening to anything another person says are YOU GUYS.

And actually I had more stuff to back up Ninten.

SMASHBOARD's GUIDE TO MAKING A POINT:

1. Completely ignore every defense made by the person and act like nothing they posted exists.
2. When you are doing something like being rude, simply say the other person is doing or that they started it, making it always okay to be rude regardless of ANY past apologies.
3. If the person is proving you wrong, DO NOT AGREE NO MATTER WHAT! If you are in such a dire situation either
A: Change the subject to another unlikely Smash character.
B: LIE
C: Make sure to act like your opinion is FACT. Remember, Anything you say that is hypocritical is NOT, just claim that it's slightly not as bad as what your criticizing the other person for.
and D: Stay as closed minded as possible. NO MATTER WHAT.

4. Noah is ALWAYS out to get you. Even though he really hasn't done anything, and anything he MAY have done he has tried to make up for you must act like he's a douchebag. And no matter how adult he's being about the subject, DO NOT let him influence you to do the same, it is a trick to abuse the forum by talking about stuff the way we're suppose to.

5. If a character on somebody's roster is clearly possible but is NOT on anybody else's roster, STAY CALM. You must do everything in you power to deny any possibility of any of these characters regardless of how much sense they make or EVEN if the reason you think they can't be in are the SAME reasons one of yours can't be in.

Remember: The people of smashboards are a secret society of apprentices personally trained by Masahiro Sakurai himself. We Know EVERYTHING, and if somebody comes in with different roster that is clearly a very likely roster, us 5 or 6 people KNOW it won't happen if we say so.

THERE ARE NO OPINIONS ON SMASHBOARDS. ONLY FACTS. AND IF WE SAY SOMEBODY'S OPINION IS WRONG. OH, YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT'S WRONG. TOGETHER WE ARE UNITED

 

[Neanderthal]

Don't you know? Lucina would be a Marth clone.

Which is why he chose Erika as the Marth clone... -_-

And Leaf is a guy for future reference.

Sorry I meant Lyn not Leaf.

Well, with so many Femal Fire Emblem heroes I would expect Eirika or Lyn. On my roster I have Marth, Leaf, Chrom, and Ike. It's very likely Chrom MIGHT be a heavier Marth Clone, if Leaf is not present. Also if Roy returning would be a possibility meaning the removal of Leaf. So it's really hard to guess who will make it.



Also I fixed my link and roster pic

Question still stands.
Why Erika or Lyn over the more recent Lucina?

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

-snip-

I take it you don't often talk to people who don't agree with you.

 

[MagnesD3]

Sorry I meant Lyn not Leaf.


Question still stands.
Why Erika or Lyn over the more recent Lucina?

Lyn is iconic with american audiences as she was the main character of the first fire emblem game released in the U.S. (and she's really cool.)

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I take it you don't often talk to people who don't agree with you.

I take it this is your first time doing so. Also saying the apposition to one's opinion is fact is not disagreeing. It's called "Denial"

 

[G0LD3N L0TUS]

I take it this is your first time doing so. Also saying the apposition to one's opinion is fact is not disagreeing. It's called "Denial"

No, it's called disagreeing. If you think Fruit Loops are made of rainbows and I don't, I'm disagreeing with you.

Anyhow, you do realize that we've never claimed Ninten was impossible, right? We just gave our reason for thinking he's very unlikely (granted that we could have done so in a more mature manner) in an effort to try to convince you, too.

 

[3Bismyname]

I take it this is your first time doing so. Also saying the apposition to one's opinion is fact is not disagreeing. It's called "Denial"

denial of what exactly? that you've created a roster with characters that you like and when people critique it, which u asked for btw, you say that we're all wrong and you're right. then when you make vast assumption based on your minimal understandings of certain areas (Pac-Man, Shulk, Dark Samus etc.) making comparisons that really aren't similar and when proven otherwise you deny that that's even a possibility. im sorry but we arent the ones in denial buddy. but if you're so sure of yourself then just take Golden up on his offer

 

[Swamp Sensei]

To this guy no, Also you are once again saying an OPINION is wrong, again a feeble and un-adultway to prove your point. The ONLY people NOT listening to anything another person says are YOU GUYS.

And actually I had more stuff to back up Ninten. Okay. Lets' hear it.

SMASHBOARD's GUIDE TO MAKING A POINT: Uh-oh.

1. Completely ignore every defense made by the person and act like nothing they posted exists. What defense have we ignored? We stated how certain points you made worked and didn't work. We debated every point you brought up.
2. When you are doing something like being rude, simply say the other person is doing or that they started it, making it always okay to be rude regardless of ANY past apologies. Irony! Hooray!
3. If the person is proving you wrong, DO NOT AGREE NO MATTER WHAT! If you are in such a dire situation either Like you did with Shulk?
A: Change the subject to another unlikely Smash character. Isn't that what you did EVERY TIME YOU WERE PROVEN WRONG?!?! I mean, you commanded that we talk about something else when we all wanted to continue the subject.
B: LIE Now this I take seriously. When have we lied? Please tell me. That is a mighty big accusation.
C: Make sure to act like your opinion is FACT. Remember, Anything you say that is hypocritical is NOT, just claim that it's slightly not as bad as what your criticizing the other person for.
and D: Stay as closed minded as possible. NO MATTER WHAT. More irony! Whoo!

4. Noah is ALWAYS out to get you. Even though he really hasn't done anything, and anything he MAY have done he has tried to make up for you must act like he's a douchebag. And no matter how adult he's being about the subject, DO NOT let him influence you to do the same, it is a trick to abuse the forum by talking about stuff the way we're suppose to. If you say so. But to be fair, you have been rude.

You act like you own the place.
You deny facts occasionally.
You attempt to control conversations.
You make posts like this.
You accuse everyone of being a troll when we are seriously trying to converse with you.
You insulted us all when you made this post.

5. If a character on somebody's roster is clearly possible but is NOT on anybody else's roster, STAY CALM. You must do everything in you power to deny any possibility of any of these characters regardless of how much sense they make or EVEN if the reason you think they can't be in are the SAME reasons one of yours can't be in. We didn't say that Ninten was impossible. Just unlikely and a bad choice.

Remember: The people of smashboards are a secret society of apprentices personally trained by Masahiro Sakurai himself. We Know EVERYTHING, and if somebody comes in with different roster that is clearly a very likely roster, us 5 or 6 people KNOW it won't happen if we say so. He's on to us.

THERE ARE NO OPINIONS ON SMASHBOARDS. ONLY FACTS. AND IF WE SAY SOMEBODY'S OPINION IS WRONG. OH, YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT'S WRONG. TOGETHER WE ARE UNITED When did we ever claim our opinion is fact?

You just criticized EVERYONE for being immature yet you just made a GIANT post ranting and complaining about everyone while insulting everyone here.

How is that mature?

Noah. If you don't like it here, then just go. That way everyone is happy.

 

[G0LD3N L0TUS]

Anyhow, we should probably get back on topic before this forum gets locked.

I had this idea earlier today, and I know of two people on board already. I'd like to ask everybody here for their take on the matter:

How would people feel if Robin (FE12) was the basis for our customizable experience mentioned for the 3DS version?

My take is that it'll represent the different aspects of Fire Emblem and serve it's other purpose as the customizable feature really well, as FE12 has proven, so it's a win/win.

(I'm hoping this is on topic and that there isn't a separate forum for this, but I found nothing when I looked)

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Anyhow, we should probably get back on topic before this forum gets closed.

I had this idea earlier today, and I know of two people on board already. I'd like to ask everybody here for their take on the matter:

How would people feel if Robin (FE12) was the basis for our customizable experience mentioned for the 3DS version?

My take is that it'll represent the different aspects of Fire Emblem and serve it's other purpose as the customizable feature really well, as FE12 has proven, so it's a win/win.

(I'm hoping this is on topic and that there isn't a separate forum for this, but I found nothing when I looked)

It's on topic. Don't worry.

It's an interesting idea, but if we were going to have any customizable characters, I'd rather have the Mii.

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

I don't see Robin himself really representing the whole customizable experience. Besides the fact that Robin is technically his own character, it would be quite a bit of effort to create different models and voices for him/her when the fans would just as easily settle with his default appearance. At that rate, he becomes just a character, which defeats the whole point of featuring him as the customizable character of choice.

That is to say, I'm not completely against the idea of Robin being a character, but I just don't see him in the way you describe.

 

[3Bismyname]

the Mii works the best for any type of customizing really. thats if there is any. i think if the Mii is in however, it's probably gonna have a set moveset

 

[MagnesD3]

the Mii works the best for any type of customizing really. thats if there is any. i think if the Mii is in however, it's probably gonna have a set moveset

God I hope the mii is ignored... but it wouldnt be the worst thing ever I guess...

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

One idea comes to mind for a truly "customizable character". What about some sort of system of Primids that can have different attributes and abilities applied to them? Change around its height and weight, give it different weapons to use different moves, colors galore... It's certainly not a mind-blowing idea, but it gets the job done I think.

 

[G0LD3N L0TUS]

It's on topic. Don't worry.

It's an interesting idea, but if we were going to have any customizable characters, I'd rather have the Mii.

I feel like the Miis fall into the same catagory as Animal Crossing characters, so I would much rather see an actual fighter, but that's just me.

I don't see Robin himself really representing the whole customizable experience. Besides the fact that Robin is technically his own character, it would be quite a bit of effort to create different models and voices for him/her when the fans would just as easily settle with his default appearance. At that rate, he becomes just a character, which defeats the whole point of featuring him as the customizable character of choice.

That is to say, I'm not completely against the idea of Robin being a character, but I just don't see him in the way you describe.

I considered that, but I ultimately decided that limiting an avatar to a specific moveset wasn't a good idea. I said Robin was the basis, so the avatar would not be it's own character. I meant just having an FE styled character customization and being able to give it a custom moveset (limited in "themes" to avoid them being OP).

 

[3Bismyname]

God I hope the mii is ignored... but it wouldnt be the worst thing ever I guess...

im somewhat in favor of the Miis, if only cause they are the biggest new IP. i dont see anything really wrong with them. if handled right they shouldnt really hurt the roster any. but im not a strong advocator either.

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

im somewhat in favor of the Miis, if only cause they are the biggest new IP. i dont see anything really wrong with them. if handled right they shouldnt really hurt the roster any. but im not a strong advocator either.

I'm in strong opposition to Miis. I mean, all the Smash Bros. characters come together as a cast, each with their own backstories. With Miis, not only will we be adding a character whose only backstory is that they act as mere avatars, but we'd be essentially throwing in what is almost the universal Nintendo equivalent of a faceless mook. By that I mean we'd be doing as much of a justice as we would if we added a Goomba or a Bronto Burt as a playable character.

A character should be in Smash Bros. because they themselves are notable. Save the world or rescue the princess or act as the main antagonist or something if you want to get into Smash Bros. If you wanted to put yourself in a fighter game, go play Photo Dojo instead.

 

[3Bismyname]

I'm in strong opposition to Miis. I mean, all the Smash Bros. characters come together as a cast, each with their own backstories. With Miis, not only will we be adding a character whose only backstory is that they act as mere avatars, but we'd be essentially throwing in what is almost the universal Nintendo equivalent of a faceless mook. By that I mean we'd be doing as much of a justice as we would if we added a Goomba or a Bronto Burt as a playable character.

yeah i dont agree with what you're saying but whatever. like i said i dont care one way or another. i just feel its deserved

 

[Deleted member]

If M&SGuy decides to have this thread locked as well, let's hope he actually deals with the source that caused this thread and the Display thread to be locked in the first place this time.

 

[Banjodorf]

Y'know, this thread is alot more tolerable ever since Golden reminded me about that handy dandy Ignore button. So peaceful...

And you know what? This thread has sort of turned me into a bit of a Dark Samus supporter, not gonna lie. It's a neat idea.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Y'know, this thread is alot more tolerable ever since Golden reminded me about that handy dandy Ignore button. So peaceful...

And you know what? This thread has sort of turned me into a bit of a Dark Samus supporter, not gonna lie. It's a neat idea.

Dark Samus and Anthony would both be cool Metroid reps after Ridley. Granted both of them are unlikely, but they would be awesome nonetheless.

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

I could definitely see Anthony being an Assist Trophy, and hoo boy, it'd be glorious. Right as Anthony spawns, he prompts his summoner with a question.

Spoiler

"REMEMBER ME?"

Immediately after that, he begins charging his Plasma Gun for a long period of time. When it finally charges, he takes aim at the opponent. If it hits, boom, they're knocked sky high out of the stage.

Anthony is a wonderful man.

 

[AEMehr]

okay here i said i wasnt gonna do this until AFTER e3 buuuut

I just couldn't help myself.

Changes​

Removed Toad​

Removed Muddy Mole​

Removed Professor Layton​

Removed Miis​

Ike returns​

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Just two things:
- The New F-Zero rep could be Samurai Goroh or Black Shadow. I just favor Black Shadow because I like the idea of him adopting Ganondorf's current moveset and giving Ganondorf something more akin to his actual fighting style in the Zelda franchise.
- Mario technically does get a new character, or returning in this case. Dr. Mario is selectable as an alternate playstyle for Mario. My idea for it works similar to how you select alts in Super Smash Brothers Crusade. While still technically being the same (Other than in appearance, throwing megavitamins, down special (Assuming FLUDD stays), and Final Smash) he plays differently, as in Super Smash Brothers Melee.

 

[Opossum]

\

2) What you linked was not Famitsu. That's Nintendo Power.
All the Famitsu information is here in raw Japanese: http://www.geocities.jp/bgrtype/gsl/words2/dairantosmabrax/smashbrothersx.html

Oh. Well, that's a bit embarrassing.

Also, I love the translator in Google Chrome. It makes Sakurai sound so classy. Some highlights:



[Collapse=Sakuraisms]

"The "pict Chat" is bullsh*t (laughs)"

"Items come out of Kirby in the "c*ck", including and "box" and "kusudama", it has the same items all at a certain probability
there a thing. Hey It is utterly strange game (laughs)"

[/Collapse]

Oh Sakurai, you silly goose...

 

[G0LD3N L0TUS]

okay here i said i wasnt gonna do this until AFTER e3 buuuut

It's a pretty good roster. My only gripes are the lack of a fifth Mario character (No, I don't think anybody would consider Dr. Mario as a costume one) and Dillon (I doubt the E-Shop should get a rep. I think there are more significant misc. to choose from). Also not sure about having all swordsman for FE again.

Great Job!

 

[Frostwraith]

Regarding Dark Samus and Ninten:
Dark Samus has more room for unique moves than Ninten, who shares many abilities with Ness. In fact, EarthBound's cast is very much a spiritual successor to the original Mother's cast. Dark Samus could work as her own character, while Ninten would work best as an alt./EX mode for Ness, much like how envision Dr. Mario and Dark Pit.

AEM's roster:
I like it. It offers variety and new characters. Has no Roy, but has Mewtwo, Ridley and K. Rool, who are popular characters.
If Chrom was replaced by Roy, I would like it even more. A total of 48 characters is a safe number.

 

[Vintage Creep]

okay here i said i wasnt gonna do this until AFTER e3 buuuut

Just here to say that Megaman's arm seems the continuation of Sonic's head. Creepy.

 

[FlareHabanero]

If M&SGuy decides to have this thread locked as well, let's hope he actually deals with the source that caused this thread and the Display thread to be locked in the first place this time.

He won't, he's such a lousy mod to begin with it's not funny. The other mods being dead doesn't help the cause ether.

 

[Deleted member]

He won't, he's such a lousy mod to begin with it's not funny. The other mods being dead doesn't help the cause ether.

And yet these mods thought that locking my thread on discussing possible cuts to the veteran roster was a good idea because of "encouraging flaming", despite discussion being civilized (and on top of that, was not anti-characters) and that other threads such as the Krystal thread and the Fire Emblem thread receiving much more hostility yet gets to stay up.

 

[FalKoopa]

Noah's trolling again?

I don't want to put anyone on the my ignore list as long the troll is not specifically trolling me.

I sort of enjoy the derp.

On the topic of inactive mods, Habanero should apply for the post of a mod. I'm serious.

 

[zauberdragon]

Can someone show Noah AEM's roster and tell him that's how you do it?

I'd say it was a very realistic roster and it'd be happy if we ended up with something like it. It's got Ridley, Little Mac and Mega Man so it gets my blessing.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Final Roster "Predictions" Before E3

Super Mario

1. Mario
2. Luigi
3. Peach
4. Bowser
5. Bowser Jr

-The Mario roster has good choices so far, four of the prominent character in the series. Bowser Jr has become quite the character as well since he debuted. Starting off as mainly in the side games he really took hold of the main series as a major villain there. If you think about it the Wii and DS generation was his stand out moment. Bowser Jr is also pretty popular and offer a new, unique, moveset compared to his dads.-

Legend of Zelda

6. Link
7. Zelda/Impa
8. Ghirahim
9. Toon Link
10. Wind Waker HD Ganondorf

-Skyward Sword will basically impact the Zelda roster the most in SSB4 (like OoT and TP did before it). The game was big and is still the latest console one at this time. Link and Zelda obviously stay but Impa would replace Sheik. It would be more of a team tagging out (using a spell to switch characters on and off the stage). Impa plays a big role in the series and made her return in Skyward Sword. Ghirahim made an impact in that game as well, he was important to the story and was around throughout most of the game. He is popular, bring in a new fighting style, and adds another villain to the Zelda series (something of which I feel it needs).

Since Ganondorf was not in Skyward Sword I feel he could be transfered to his Toon Wind Waker form. To both give Toon Link a villain and to rep the upcoming return of Wind Waker. This wouldn't hurt Link and Zelda/Impa much since they would have Ghirahim as their villain.-

Pokemon

11. Pikachu
12. Jigglypuff
13. Pokemon Trainer Gold w/ Chikorita, Quilava, & Feraligatr
14. Mewtwo/Awakened Mewtwo
15. Genesect

-Pikachu and Jigglypuff obviously will stay since they have been in sicne the beginning. With the recent remakes of the Johto games, I feel the trainer can be updated to Gold. He is a popular trainer as well and the Johto starters (who also have their own popularity) would offer something new. It also helps cut down on the Gen 1 reps.

Mewtwo is returning in both a movie and Gen 6 as his new Awakened form. This is the big chance to bring him back, especially since people want him. Genesect is also in that movie and is a good choice to rep Gen 5. Doing so would also put a more villainesque Pokemon character in as well.-

Donkey Kong

16. Donkey Kong
17. Diddy Kong
18. King K. Rool

-DK and Diddy are still great choices together for the series, and rep majority of the Wii and DS DK games. King K. Rool has also made a few recent appearances in Mario and DK games, and he is still the villain for the series. K. Rool is also quite asked for.-

Earthbound/Mother

19. Ness
20. Lucas

-The series is still repped well with Ness and Lucas. The last game was 2006 and even with Earthbound being put up for download again (and supposedly talk from the company about something *rumor*) I don't see any need for another character.-

F-Zero

21. Captain Falcon

-Captain Falcon is the only character F-Zero needs until new games start to come out again.-

Yoshi's Story/Island

22. Yoshi

-Yoshi is still the perfect rep for its series, it doesn't need anyone else.-

Star Fox

23. Fox
24. Falco
25. Wolf

-The three from Brawl still do well to rep the series, especially with the lack of games lately (Command in 2006 and 64 3D in 2011). Krystal could make sense but it is not entirely needed (unless a newer game comes out soon).

Metroid

26. Samus/Zero Suit Samus
27. Ridley

-The Metroid series is in need of another rep. A villain one makes the most sense and the obvious choice in Ridley. He is Samus's rival and played a big role in both Prime 3 and Other M. The latter of which could have a version that can easily be scaled down for Smash.-

WarioWare/Land

28. Wario

-Wario still reps both of his series perfectly by himself.-

Fire Emblem

29. Marth
30. Micaiah
31. Chrom

-Marth is the original lord, and has had both of his games remade, he is a guaranteed stay. I feel Ike could be replaced by Micaiah since she had a prominent role in Radiant Dawn, almost as much as Ike. Bring her in also bring in a new class and new fighting style. Chrom is the main character from the latest Fire Emblem, Awakening, and he would easily make up for Ike's loss. These two newcomers helps diversify the roster, helping it stay away from all sword users, and are both popular as well.-

Kirby

32. Kirby
33. King DeDeDe
34. Metaknight

-The three Kirby characters from Brawl are still the perfect team to rep the series. It doesn't need anyone else without going into "lesser characters".-

Kid Icarus

35. Pit
36. Palutena

-Kid Icarus returned on the 3DS with Uprising and due to both the game's popularity and the history of the series warrants another character. Palutena has been around since the beginning, has quite the popularity for herself, and brings in a new style.-

Pikmin

37. Captain Olimar

-Captain Olimar is still the best rep to have for Pikmin. If Pikmin 3 does well though, I could see the leads from their either being added or replacing Olimar.-

Xenoblade

38. Shulk

-Xenoblade is one of the biggest IPs Nintendo brought out during the Wii gen. It became massively popular. Shulk is the lead and his weapon, the Monado, is the main focus of the game. He is popular and offers a new sword style.-

Golden Sun

39. Matthew

-Golden Sun has been around for a while now and has become quite the popular series aong fans. The latest game in the series, Dark Dawn, is technically the start of the main story and Matthew was the lead for it. He is most likely going to stay in the row when the series continues as well.-

Sin & Punishment

40. Isa Jo

-Sin & Punishment made both its return and its localization during this past gen. The original game was imported over and the second game was physically released as well. The series has its ownb set of popularity, enough to warrant a character. Isa is the current lead (and he will most likely be for the next one) and I feel they could do more with him than Saki because of the jetpack.

Punchout

41. Little Mac

-Punchout is a legendary franchise and Little Mac is a legendary character. The series returned back in 2009 on the Wii and that was also received with much popularity (like the older games). Little Mac would bring a new fighting style in as a boxer.-

Dillon's Rolling Western

42. Dillon

-Dillon's Rolling Western is one of the bigger new franchise released lately on the 3DS. Dillon would be a newer style and this could be their way of pushing the series more.-

Retro

43. Mr. Game & Watch
44. Ice Climbers
45. ROB
46. Sheriff
47. Takamaru

-Mr. Game & Watch, Ice Climbers, and ROB are easily going to stay in as Retro characters. Two new ones that could be added are Sheriff and Takamaru. Sheriff is very historical for Nintendo, dating all the way back to 1979. He is practically one of their original characters. Takamaru also seems to be getting a lot of love lately, from being in Samurai Warriors 3 to having a mini-game based around his game in Nintendo Land. Nintendo may be trying to bring him back and including him in Smash would be the way to do it.-

3rd Party

48. Sonic the Hedgehog
49. Mega-Man
50. Lloyd Irving

-Due to the many Sonic games on on Nintendo systes lately, and his overall popularity, Sonic staying is not much of a longshot. There is talk of a Capcom character being included, and that should easily be the company's "mascot" Mega-Man. The original version makes sense since the classic series returned with 9 & 10 on WiiWare. He is also pretty much the most requested for the series as well.

Namco is helping make the game and could easily put in one of their characters. Lloyd would be a good choice since he is one of the more prominent Tales characters with Nintendo, from back with ToS on the Gamecube to its sequel and Soul Calibur Legends on the Wii. Including a Tales character would also shine a light on the Tales series and help it get more noticed.-

Wii Series

51. Mii

-Miis were a big addition to the Wii and they are still around for the Wii U and 3DS. The Wii _____ Series games were pretty popular and you can easily draw stuff from those games for a moveset. From the likes of rollinjg a bowling ball and swinging a golf club to throwing stones and using karate.'

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A 50 character roster plus the Mii
21 and a half newcomers

Reasons for Removals:

Red - Despite his popularity, he doesn't really rep much of the latest Pokemon games (outside of being a boss battle). There are also other popular trainers and using one of them could help represent a different gen. Not that he is a bad choice but I don't feel we need an overabundance of Gen 1. Mewtwo at least makes sense because of his new form for Gen 6.

Lucario - I feel that because of the Gen 2 Remakes, 5th Gen, and the upcoming 6th Gen the "need" for a 4th Gen (Sinnoh) is a little less now. Mewtwo was passed over for Lucario, so his spot is not really set in stone. The inclusion of Gold also reps the latest form of 4th Gen (the Johto remakes).

Ike - He was still prominent in Radiant Dawn, as well as being Awakening DLC, but the same things applies to Micaiah. It is more of cutting down on the blue haired sword user and trying to diversify this roster as much as possible (which it needs). Having Marth, Ike, and Chrom altogether would be having a roster that is a little too similar, since Chrom is basically a mix of both of them.

Snake - Konami doesn't appear to be supporting Nintendo much, at least not yet, and that especially applies to Metal Gear Solid. It at least made some sense in Brawl because of Twin Snakes. If Konami does indeed stay around with a rep, a Castlevania one would make a bit more sense. The series started with Nintendo and has has quite the name for itself on the Wii, DS, and 3DS.

 

[Opossum]

It looks like you're trying to create a prediction roster. Would you like some help?

• Don't remove characters that will likely stay.
• Don't substitute them for unlikely characters.
• Stay clear of bias when making a prediction roster.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

It looks like you're trying to create a prediction roster. Would you like some help?

• Don't remove characters that will likely stay.
• Don't substitute them for unlikely characters.
• Stay clear of bias when making a prediction roster.

The only one that really qualifies for it is the third point

The characters I removed aren't guaranteed to stay. The ones I added are not guaranteed not to be in.



There is NO roster prediction that ever has been 100% not bias. We ALL do it. Even Sakurai.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Predictions as a whole are simply pointless.

 

[FalKoopa]

Simply accepting that you're biased won't do it.

Gotta do somethin' 'bout it ya know.

For instance, you can add whichever Mario character for the 5th slot (Paper Mario, Waluigi, Toad, Bowser Jr.); we won't complain. Atleast keep the FE part free of bias - You know you don't want others ****ting on your roster.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Simply accepting that you're biased won't do it.

Gotta do somethin' 'bout it ya know.

For instance, you can add whichever Mario character for the 5th slot (Paper Mario, Waluigi, Toad, Bowser Jr.); we won't complain. Atleast keep the FE part free of bias - You know you don't want others ****ting on your roster.

I have accepted that we are ALL bias

I also see my Fire Emblem roster as three characters with different class types/weapons and each has something different in terms of repping the series.

Marth - Original Lord/Sword Only User
Micaiah - One Lead From Last Console Game/Mage User
Chrom - Lead From Last Handheld Game/Multi-Weapon User

 

[volbound1700]

Because it's not the same Link actually. One is from The Wind Waker, and the other is from Spirit Tracks.

Actually meant for it to be Tetra and Zelda, sorry

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

As wondrous as I'm sure it'd be, save yourself the effort. The guy has a 90+ post-count with not a single like, and it's clear to everyone else that he's the only one rooting for himself and his "realistic roster". Noah isn't worth your time, my friend.

Don't worry, it is already typed up. It isn't just him. There are plenty of people who I don't believe understand how to roster works, and I believe that I have come up with a decent comparison.

This is not to say that I would know how it works. It's just a way to clear things up.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I really don't think that advertising for current games matters as much as it used to, considering Sakurai isn't directly working for Nintendo anymore. Since HAL isn't developing this game either the only time Sakurai has to work with Nintendo is when getting permission to use the characters, and when it needs to launch on their consoles, I'm pretty sure he could care less about how much Pokémon Black & White and Fire Emblem: Awakening is selling.

Removing PT is insane, if you remove Charizard you might aswell remove Marth and replace Olimar with some new captain, no Pokémon is even close to matching Charizard when it comes to being a favorite, not even Pikachu.

Snake was never in to advertise for anything, mostly because of Kojima and Sakurai's friendship, so he's likely to stay. His playstyle is also too unique to be removed.

Ike isn't in the same situation as Roy was, Roy was one of the least prioritized characters because he was a clone, not because he wasn't relevant anymore, and even then he was planned to be in the game. Granted Ike made it into the game to begin with because the Fire Emblem crew suggested him to Sakurai, most likely for advertisement, I don't see him going anywhere, Sakurai probably views him as a competent fighter.

I'd say Lucario is the only veteran who's spot isn't 100% secured, and even then he still has a very unique mechanic (aura,) and he's still popular amongst fans, and I believe Sakurai values that over advertising (though Lucario is also still used to advertise.)

The fact that people lay so much weight on including the most recent characters from a franchise into the game kind of baffles me, people really overestimate its importance. Yes, it has some saying, but it isn't the be all, end all.