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AEMehr

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Roughly 20 pages late, BUT WHO CARES????
I really like this roster. First of all, this roster is really different from other ones, and I like the disposition of the characters.
Secondly, you did choose plausible characters, and you added reps where we need them (DK, Fire Emblem, Metroid, KI and not Mario, Kirby or Starfox).
Thank you! I was going for a roster that focused on filling the necessary blanks, rather than adding some fan favorites and some of the necessary characters. I think it'll happen more like this time because of how unique characters seems to be the main focus of newcomers this time around, so since all of the necessary characters have such a huge potential to be really diverse from the rest of the cast... It'd make sense we'd see a lot more of the demanded characters this time around since, you know, they've got a lot to make them unique.
I really like the fact that you included Robin as she/he is my most wanted newcomer, but truth be told, I don't think we can see her/him without Chrom playable.
I believe Robin's position in Awakening is enough to allow him/her be playable without Chrom. But that is just me, so I dunno.
I would fill the last slot with a new IP character (TW101, Miyamoto's new IP or original smash character) and this roster would be near perfect for me.
If I was going for addition characters, I'd probably look into a new ip character / Zelda character / or F-Zero dude.

I appreciate your kind comments sir, thanks a lot for sharing your opinion!
 

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Best Pokémon lineup:
Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Pokémon Trainer, Mewtwo, Lucario.
There you go.
So basically no variety, no uniqueness or change from the previous games? Seems legit


and for the love of arceus, can someone tell me why people keep listing mewtwo as a NEWcomer



P.S blaziken should be playable by itself and I'm not even a blaziken fan (sceptile ftw ). Pokemon needs a diverse roster of unexpectedness
 

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Well I've mentioned this before...

But consider the fact that Zant may or may not appear again. Let's say Sakurai knows he isn't. Then why add a character who would fade into Smash obscurity after the title he appears in? Same with Midna, same with Ghirahim. They aren't characters that would last in Smash Bros. as far as longevity in the series.

I mean by common sense, it should be assumed that Sakurai looks at characters to see if they would be good as an addition, because why waste the time on a character that would be replaced in the next game.

THAT is why one off characters hardly have big chances. I love Ghirahim, but I don't see him getting in.
http://www.zeldainformer.com/news/rumor-zelda-u-a-sequel-to-twilight-princes#.UuTDEfbnbEo
http://youtu.be/mwAPIcwv120
http://youtu.be/HKbpqbMi9fM
http://youtu.be/5HTqEc00U2k
http://www.zeldainformer.com/news/more-rumors-surface-for-zelda-u#.UuTIkfbnbEo
http://wantmidnaback.com/
http://wantmidnaback.com/
http://wantmidnaback.com/
Posted the link 3 times on purpose.
Aonuma has already discussed the possibilty of her return back in, I think, 2008? "if we hear enough voices"
Well here are some rumors. I just want people to know it's not impossible.
I personally hope it happens, many are closed-minded and just say it's impossible because the mirror broke. But there are many possibilities. Like:
http://youtu.be/LHqVI-tV5PM
Just saying, don't discredit her completely.
And even though Zelda U will probably come out after SSB4. Well, Roy in Melee. And we already have the TP designs, which are otherwise outdated.

I'm not taking a poll here. That would be defeating the purpose. And as I could not possibly get sufficient attention anywhere else, I am at the mercy of other people's polls.

Let's try Shortie's newest one. In this poll, she's in 61st place, behind Skull Kid, Ghirahim, Midna, Tetra, Vaati, Toon Zelda, and Wolf Link, but above Toon Ganondorf and Tingle.


Mewtwo 1417 32
· King K. Rool 1091
· Ridley 1087
· Little Mac (Punch Out) 940
· Roy 910
· Krystal 869
· Palutena 842
· Bowser Junior 831
· Chrom 770
· Isaac (Golden Sun) 741
· Dixie Kong 707
· Waluigi 675
· Paper Mario 649
· Shulk (Xenoblade) 616
· Banjo & Kazooie 606
· Pac-Man 593
· Majora (Skull Kid) 564
· Ghirahim 556
· 2nd Sonic Character (Tails, Shadow, Knuckles) 524
· Bomberman 525
· Samurai Goroh 521
· Black Shadow 513
· Toad 483
· Lyn 466
· Mii (Wii Series) 450
· 6th Gen Pokemon 436
· Rayman 438
· Kingdom Hearts (Sora) 420
· Super Mario RPG (Geno, Mallow) 420
· Lucina 418
· Dark Samus 409
· Zoroark 407
· Castlevania (Simon Belmont, Alucard, Dracula) 393
· Rosalina 378
· Takamaru (The Mysterious Musasame Castle) 367
· Kamek 358
· Pokemon Trainer (Johto) 356
· Pokemon Trainer (Hoenn) 354
· Bayonetta 352
· King Boo 347
· Claus (Masked Man) 343
· Midna 342
· Ace Attorney (Phoenix Write) 340
· Vaati 338
· Tetra 336
· Eevee (and Eeveelutions) 335
· Saki (Sin & Punishment) 332
· Toon Zelda 329
· Medusa 326
· Doctor Mario 322
· Final Fantasy (Chocobo Black Mage Moogle Cloud Lightning) 322
· Tom Nook (Animal Crossing 317
· Wolf Link 313
· Balloon Fighter 313
· Professor Layton 309
· Shy Guy 308
· Dillon (Rolling Western) 302
· Crono Trigger (Crono) 299
· Ashley 298
· Tales Series (Cless/Cress, Lloyd) 293
· Viewtiful Joe 293
· Baby Mario & Luigi 288
· Dark Pit 287
· Magnus 286
· Pokemon Trainer (Kalos) 282
· Young Link 278
· Meowth 267
· Scribblenauts (Maxwell) 267
· Ray MK (Custom Robo) 264
· Bandana Dee 259
· Deoxys 254
· Anna 254
· Knuckle Joe 248
· Daisy 247
· Porky 243
· Hades 243
· Black Knight 242
· No More Hereos (Travis Touchdown) 239
· Slippy 237
· Pokemon Trainer (Sinnoh) 234
· Conker's Bad Fur Day (Conker) 233
· Pokemon Trainer Villain (Rocket Plasma Galactic Aqua Magma) 231
· Captain Syrup 230
· Funky Kong 229
· Pokemon Trainer N 229
· Kat & Ana 227
· Mona 221
· Starfy (The Legendary Starfy) 220
· Micaiah 219
· Fawful 218
· Andy (Advanced Wars) 218
· Prince Fluff 217
· Impa 216
· Street Fighter (Ryu, Chun Li, M. Bison) 214
· Robin (FE:A Avatar)208
· Pichu 203
· Classic Link 197
· 2nd Metal Gear Character (Raiden, Gray Fox) 195
· Sylux 191
· Toon Ganondorf 188
· Plusle & Minun 188
· Tingle 187
Don't forget this more recent Zelda poll by SonicToast:

Ghirahim 6504 37%
Demise 83 0%
Toon Zelda/ Tetra 2866 16%
Toon Ganondorf 132 1%
Midna 5455 31%
Wolf Link 724 4%
Ruta 19 0%
Mr. Tingle 71 0%
Classic Ganon (Pig Ganon) 47 0%
Young Link 316 2%
Yuga 85 0%
Goron 45 0%
Impa 33 0%
Vaati 83 0%
Ravio 40 0%
Navi 907 5%
Mask Salesman 38 0%
Great Deku Tree 37 0%
Fi 20 0%
Hilda 19 0%
Grandma from WindWaker 38 0%
Saria 22 0%
Makar 37 0%
Darbus 12 0%
Zant 81 0%

Impa lost to Ghirahim, Demise, Toon Zelda, Toon Ganondorf, Midna, Wolf Link, Tingle, Classic Ganon, Young Link, Yuga, Goron, Vaati, Ravio, Navi(wtf?), Happy Mask Salesman, Great Deku Tree(wtf?), Grandma, Makar, and Zant. And only beat Ruto, Fi, Hilda, Saria, and Darbus. Ouch.

Not that these polls will affect the game, I just found it worth mentioning.

Please no "I thought we were done with this" replies. I missed a lot. I'm not trying to start anything.
 
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So basically no variety, no uniqueness or change from the previous games? Seems legit


and for the love of arceus, can someone tell me why people keep listing mewtwo as a NEWcomer



P.S blaziken should be playable by itself and I'm not even a blaziken fan (sceptile ftw ). Pokemon needs a diverse roster of unexpectedness
How is there no variety in that? You have a electric mouse, a pink volatile ballon that sings and can kill while napping, a steel spiked blue jackal who talks and uses his soul to fight, a tamer of said pokemon beast being able to summon a fire breathing dragon a Plant like dinosuar and a turtle that can control and shoot water, then we have a legendary genetic pokemon who is said to be the most powerful in the world...

That all seems very unique to me, best solution is just get use to the great pokemon we have now because they dont seem like we are getting anything different smash wise.
 

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Quick off-topic post: I just watched an episode of Soul Eater for the first time. I think I'll try a few more episodes to see if they interest me.

I'm probably going to try watching a few episodes of One Piece too.

As for Pokemon, yeah, there's plenty of unique variety with Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Pokemon Trainer, Lucario and Mewtwo.

Honestly I'd love to see some more Pokemon characters like Zoroark getting in, and also Pichu returning so long as none of them get in the way of Mewtwo or any of the Pokemon characters in Brawl, but I can't really Zoroark or Pichu getting in at this point. (maybe the latter as DLC if Sakurai decides to add DLC characters at some point)
 

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Don't forget Ivysaur, R.O.B., and Wolf.
How could I forget them WHEN THEY WERE ALL IN GAMES BETWEEN MELEE AND BRAWL? Why did you all try to rebuttal my point with characters that don't fit the category I described. A character in a largely represented series who received no representation in a previous Smash Bros game, has never became playable unless featured in games between installments. My main point against Vaati was that he had nothing in Brawl, and hasn't been in a Zelda game since. Diddy Kong, Ivysaur, ROB, and Wolf all were in games from 2001-2008. So they weren't in the position Vaati is in now. Nice try.
 

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How could I forget them WHEN THEY WERE ALL IN GAMES BETWEEN MELEE AND BRAWL? Why did you all try to rebuttal my point with characters that don't fit the category I described. A character in a largely represented series who received no representation in a previous Smash Bros game, has never became playable unless featured in games between installments. My main point against Vaati was that he had nothing in Brawl, and hasn't been in a Zelda game since. Diddy Kong, Ivysaur, ROB, and Wolf all were in games from 2001-2008. So they weren't in the position Vaati is in now. Nice try.
Why is it that you reply to one person that was arguing you much earlier, then take several more hours to reply to another person arguing you, again, much earlier today?

Can you please just drop this argument already? For now at least?
 

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Why is it that you reply to one person that was arguing you much earlier, then take several more hours to reply to another person arguing you, again, much earlier today?

Can you please just drop this argument already? For now at least?

Nah... I like replying to random posts made long ago...

With the absence of the Roster Discussion thread, to hopefully have on topic discussions, I made this thread so that we could discuss rosters that people propose as their predictions.

Here is mine below
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Here is my updated roster that totals at 49 character slots, with 53 total.

The group of characters at the bottom is a pool of potential DLC characters in case DLC is used (note that Shulk, Dillon and Isaac are in there in case they do not make the initial roster). Bomberman I just personally think would be awesome.

Explanation:
Basically all vets are in there because I want all vets to return. As far as the newcomers...

Ridley,Megaman, K.Rool, Mewtwo, Palutena and Roy are all self-explanatory.
Shulk is one of my most wanted newcomers, and I do expect him to be playable.
Chrom is a character I happen to like, and if we get four FE characters, I feel as if it would be him.
Lloyd Irving I happen to like a hell of a lot more than Pac-Man, and I find it likely that Namco will get a rep.
Isaac because I think he has quite a bit of potential to be a cool character.
Little Mac because I think he should have been there awhile ago if you ask me.
Takamaru because I find him to be a likely retro.
Paper Mario because I see him as a very unique Mario newcomer (not that the others aren't)
Dillon I see as a representative of the e-shop and it's success

Feel free to discuss other rosters and your own! Hopefully this does not get locked. Please stay on topic!

If Namco gets a rep, I think it will be PacMan, even though Lloyd is way cooler.
 
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Hey! Look who finally figured out how to give themselves a picture! All I had were roster icons... so this became my pic. Pretty awesome artwork of Midna, icon made on another thread. I'll experiment more later.:)

EDIT: found the original picture, disregard that icon thing
 
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Hey guys, if Sakurai brings 2 old IP mascott to the game (http://www.officialnintendomagazine...-characters-back-to-smash-bros-wii-u-and-3ds/), who would you want them to be ?

Personally, I would like Hakkun, because of the gameplay he can bring, and because he's obscure^^


And for the other character, hard to choose between Lip and Takamaru.
I'd be interested in Mach Rider. Not sure why, but I feel like he would be the most interesting to play as. Well, if the found a way to incorporate the bike properly that is.
 

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Hey guys, if Sakurai brings 2 old IP mascott to the game (http://www.officialnintendomagazine...-characters-back-to-smash-bros-wii-u-and-3ds/), who would you want them to be ?

Personally, I would like Hakkun, because of the gameplay he can bring, and because he's obscure^^


And for the other character, hard to choose between Lip and Takamaru.
Hakkun would make an awesome retro character, and the nintendo wiki says that the game was popular enough to get a sequel and the game has been released on the virtual console so some people must know who he is, but anyway I feel like he'd be really cool and unique
 

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Hey guys, if Sakurai brings 2 old IP mascott to the game (http://www.officialnintendomagazine...-characters-back-to-smash-bros-wii-u-and-3ds/), who would you want them to be ?

Personally, I would like Hakkun, because of the gameplay he can bring, and because he's obscure^^


And for the other character, hard to choose between Lip and Takamaru.

and err...

Actually Duck Hunt's the only retro IP I have any experience with now that Ice Climbers and Pit are already in Smash and Little Mac no longer counts as a retro. I guess I'd side with Lip, purely because she's not Takamaru.

Hakkun looks interesting, but I'm really clueless about what he can do.
 

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I'm surprised someone actually used one of my silly Photoshops.

New topic:


Discuss.
I don't think much of Lyndis, but I'm getting inspired to make one of those SSB4 site newcomer mockups.
I want to do one for the Grovyle in PMD2, which might be easy to do since I made a 3D model of him that I can use, rather than use generic pics from the internet.

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Either Lyn or Anna would be ideal as Fire Emblem newcomers for me, too bad their both pretty unlikely. Especially the latter. Oh well. :/
 

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Ceada is really the only character from FE I want. But I wouldn't be opposed to Lyn though.
 

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Two retro characters? My Mach Rider desire is already pretty well stated, but I'm not sure what else I'd want. Takamaru seems pretty likely, I guess. I don't really like Lip all that much, and honestly I'm not familiar with the rest of my options. I guess I would say Mach Rider + an obscure character I wouldn't know until after they were revealed.
 
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