Roll Boosted Luma/Lunar Landing

[falln]

Pretty sure this is new. If it's not well at least I have a version in video form. Came across it while practicing a fun but completely unfeasible combo (that is also in the vid).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdJ8UUu5mJk

I don't really post here and it feels like smashboards collectively does not know west coast very well so I'll use this as a quick introduction. Hi I'm falln. Rank 9 in SoCal, was also ranked in brawl (kirby) for the last 4 years. Got 25th at apex [despite being placed as seed 6 in r1 pool]. I lab this game quite a bit and whenever I find stuff I put it up on my channel.

Normally I just post the stuff to reddit/fb because my experience with smashboards in brawl days left a lot to be desired but new game new people I suppose.

If the video gains the rosalina board's collective approval then my request is to help bump it up a bit on reddit. so hard for anything to get off the ground there. http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/c...na_advanced_tech_roll_boosted_lumalunar_land/

 

[Indigo Jeans]

Nice! I had never thought of using Luma's roll mechanics for ledge tricksies

 

[Parcheesy]

I've always used dash attack to extend the luma off the ledge, but there is significantly more style doing it this way. As someone who thoroughly enjoys frustrating people in For Glory, every flashy new technique is quite welcome.

 

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

Pretty sure this is new. If it's not well at least I have a version in video form. Came across it while practicing a fun but completely unfeasible combo (that is also in the vid).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdJ8UUu5mJk

I don't really post here and it feels like smashboards collectively does not know west coast very well so I'll use this as a quick introduction. Hi I'm falln. Rank 9 in SoCal, was also ranked in brawl (kirby) for the last 4 years. Got 25th at apex [despite being placed as seed 6 in r1 pool]. I lab this game quite a bit and whenever I find stuff I put it up on my channel.

Normally I just post the stuff to reddit/fb because my experience with smashboards in brawl days left a lot to be desired but new game new people I suppose.

If the video gains the rosalina board's collective approval then my request is to help bump it up a bit on reddit. so hard for anything to get off the ground there. http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/c...na_advanced_tech_roll_boosted_lumalunar_land/

I actually saw this technique a couple of days ago. A japanese rosalina was doing and it blew my mind. Good job with the video great stuff to see. The potential on Rosalina is ridiculous.

 

[Lavani]

I wasn't aware rolls could be used to manipulate Luma mid-attack, this looks really promising. Good stuff!

 

[Smasher89]

Ah, another way of using aerials, good find, its easy to understand why it works.
Tried it and it stacks with the aerial interupted ledgejump.
Meaning you can have luma quite far, below the edge free to do anything you want after ledgejumping, doing backair, second backair lands close to the ledge, and roll towards the ledge after to get more lumaspace, takes a bit of time but get luma even further away and even a bit lower to threaten that space.

EDIT, you mentioned that you go alot into the lab, any idea how https://vine.co/u/1132297289617043456 the 0-ko on shiek (posted jan 11)had the upsmash as a combo from upthrow? I think it might be related to the clockitem but theres none showed.

 

[falln]

yea lol he used the timer. it's pretty clear if you compare how fast rosa is compared to sheik.

it's also the only possible way for the up b hit to count as a combo. that **** takes a long time before you can atk with luma

 

[Zonderion]

Since this is a LL and you can Luma shot or star bits immediately, does this still apply, or is Rosalina still trapped in the rolling frames to do this?

 

[falln]

no, because with this technique you would be opting to use your free frames as rosalina to roll instead of another attack. you can however star bits when you finish your roll if luma found herself in a favorable position. if you roll boost at the edge then luma will be too far to trigger luma shot

 

[Zonderion]

That's what I figured, thanks for this lab work! Great stuff!

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

Very nice. Going to incorporate this a lot more. Still need to perfect luma landing though myself. Good looking edgeguarding move for sure and can't wait for people to find cool things to do with this.

 

[Zonderion]

Another quick thought. Does Rosalina have any way to cancel her roll? If so, can it be used in conjunction with LL to send Luma further from Rosalina? Essentially Rosalina would stay in place from the canceled roll, but Luma would still move as if Rosalina had rolled.

I thought I remembered reading something about being able to cancel a roll with a grab? Would that apply here?

 

[falln]

to my knowledge, rosalina's roll cancelled grab doesn't provide any advantage [or end faster] over a standing grab or a dash grab. there may be some very niche applications with glide tossing (luma land while catching a banana then cancel a roll via glide toss? would put luma at an interesting range). not sure on the feasibility of that option even if you find yourself in that circumstance but the mechanics behind it should work out.

 

[Zonderion]

Interesting. If it worked out, it would make for some great mix ups.

 

[Jester Kirby]

Falln players Rosalina in smash 4?? Whaaaaat!? That's awesome.

 

[ChikoLad]

Very cool trick, will most likely be extremely useful. I've mostly been practicing Luma separation and manipulation lately (something too often overlooked even by some really good players), so this is definitely gonna expand that aspect of my play once I get the time to really knuckle down with this game.