This is a bit off topic, but does anyone find it amusing that the two characters ZSS has had infinite's on have the first three letters of their name as "rob"?
Maybe ZSS just has a personal agenda against that name.
(I think Robin will be mid tier).
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Robin Tier Placement Discussion
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Maybe ZSS just has a personal agenda against that name.
(I think Robin will be mid tier).
Raijinken
Smash Master
The Aerolink part of my statement was incorrect, I misnamed him. The information comes second-hand from @Raykz in This thread, and is attributed to Ninjalink, not Aerolink . I heard the commentators on http://www.twitch.tv/smash_24 mention the change earlier in the stream, and other friends heard the same thing. I assume the full stream will be reviewable at a later time once the tournament is over.
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Mr. Johan
Smash Hero
Dark Lady
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I hear that Zamus has an infinite on Bowser Jr and Marth...
But only the Roy color/skin.
But only the Roy color/skin.
AeroLink_the_SoulMaster
Let's rock, baby!
I believe so, along with the Peach pulling a turnip to ban glitch on For Glory mode. I'm not 100% sure though.
Robins tier placement will be mostly based on match ups. That said, I think what direction the meta game shapes into in neutral will be what decides it. Robin has tools for most situations, if the game shifts into floaty air control Robin is really threatening with Levin sword and projectiles. If it's a ground game Robin has projectiles, good range and threatening tilts, but lacks grab range and movement speed (I've been told the run speed is similar to Links, don't know about walk speed as that's important ad well).
Robin to me doesn't seem like a character that has anything game-defining in his kit, so it all comes down to his tool and abilities in the match ups of what characters become strong. It's not uncommon for otherwise meh characters to get by in mid/high tiers because they have specific tools that work well in the meta, or against specific, good characters (#1 example is jiggs in melee, she's a pretty bad character that has the tools to win match ups against great characters like shiek, falcon and peach and go even with marth/falco, while struggles vs characters like doc or young link because they thrive in the sort of game play her kit forces)
Robin has great adaptability from what I've seen of him, so it will all depend on what characters become good and popular, and what Robin can do about them
(Specifically watch out for duck hunt dog, ZSS, little mac and shulk imo)
Robin to me doesn't seem like a character that has anything game-defining in his kit, so it all comes down to his tool and abilities in the match ups of what characters become strong. It's not uncommon for otherwise meh characters to get by in mid/high tiers because they have specific tools that work well in the meta, or against specific, good characters (#1 example is jiggs in melee, she's a pretty bad character that has the tools to win match ups against great characters like shiek, falcon and peach and go even with marth/falco, while struggles vs characters like doc or young link because they thrive in the sort of game play her kit forces)
Robin has great adaptability from what I've seen of him, so it will all depend on what characters become good and popular, and what Robin can do about them
(Specifically watch out for duck hunt dog, ZSS, little mac and shulk imo)
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Trickerhere
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If anyone has played the game how is Robin's running speed is it similar to Links?
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
It's roughly the same speed? Robin's dash speed is not good, lol.
Hunter Nightblood
Smash Apprentice
Someone did a complete character analysis of Robin on reddit. I would link to it, but I don't have 10 posts yet.
From the looks of things, Robin won't be that great in a time match, but that's just me speculating. Then again, tier lists are based on tournaments which are based on Stock.
From the looks of things, Robin won't be that great in a time match, but that's just me speculating. Then again, tier lists are based on tournaments which are based on Stock.
Walfan
Smash Apprentice
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
Most of that is either stuff we already know, or is slightly wrong. Nice to see I wasn't the only one doing research, though.
Among the errors:
Elthunder incorrect damage value.
Says Robin is Heavy. (Slightly on the light side of the middle of the cast)
Significantly underrates/doesn't understand Nosferatu.
Among the errors:
Elthunder incorrect damage value.
Says Robin is Heavy. (Slightly on the light side of the middle of the cast)
Significantly underrates/doesn't understand Nosferatu.
Zareidriel
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Robin's eventual tournament results, and therefore, tier placement, is going to be highly dependent on whether Smash 4 tournaments are 3 stock, or 2 stock. Anything but 3 stock seems absolutely silly to me, for too many reasons to list without creating an entire rant about it (which I may yet do ;]). But more importantly, for us, more stocks means more chances to come back from the match via Nosferatu; get a couple of good heals at 150% on your third stock and you might have a chance of coming back.
Therefore, I implore you, Robin players:
Push for 3 stocks at your local tournaments. Aside from the match being more related to strategy, which we all love, rather than gimmicks and luck, it is also advantageous for our Robin.
Therefore, I implore you, Robin players:
Push for 3 stocks at your local tournaments. Aside from the match being more related to strategy, which we all love, rather than gimmicks and luck, it is also advantageous for our Robin.