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ToiletRoll

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Righto, i decided to stop editing the last one as i went along, simply because noone was looking at it. at all.
Wasted my time raising a poliwrath.(if anyone wants it then yell out)
But in the end up i have a whole new team, with a few appearences from before...






"Jessica"(new and improved) @ Choice Scarf
Modest
Levitate
252 Sp. atk, 252 speed, 6HP
Shadow Ball
Destiny Bond
Sludge Bomb
Hypnosis
My opening "one move then switch" pokemon. Usually i would open with the move Hypnosis to get the opponent sleeping, then switch out to something i know can take care of the opposing poke. Although if i have nothing to counter it, (eg. Garchomp) I will use destiny bond and end its life real quick. It attacks if theres nothing to switch to.( i am fully aware that Garchomp is now considered 'Uber' and is no longer useable in competitive play)



"Salvador" @ Expert Belt
Brave
Overgrow
252 Atk, 252 Def, 6HP
Stone Edge
Wood Hammer
Synthesis
EarthQuake
This is basically a follow up to Jessica. It attacks if it can and stays alive with synthesis for as long as possible. This is also a Poke that is not affected by Prickles' Sandstorm ;) Here he comes :3



"Prickles" @ Brightpowder
Adamant
Sand Veil
252 Atk, 252 Speed, 6 Def
Protect
Stealth Rock/Toxic
EarthQuake
Sandstorm
This is Prickles... My very first Sandslash, Ever. It starts off by using It's 4th move. If it isnt hit on the first turn, then its set up for the rest of the duration of the Sanstorm. Sand Veil and Brightpowder(is that item banned?) = opponent not hitting very often. If it cannot take the opponent out then it SRs it, then uses protect once. and switches out to Salvador or Tavares to keep the damage going.



"Leslie" @ Muscle Band
Adamant
Intimidate
252 Atk, 252 Def, 6 Speed
EarthQuake
Stone Edge
Dragon Claw
Crunch
Yet another 'all out' attacker that just hits hard and hopes the opponent goes down before it. works a bit like Tavares... which is up next :p


"Tavares" @ Expert Belt/Life Orb
Adamant
Rock Head
252 Atk, 252 speed, 6 Def.
Stone Edge
Crunch
EarthQuake
Aerial Ace
This, (as you may alredy know) Is Tavares, and He's a pretty hard hitter and has only died on a switch in. (protecting my old Blissey, from an explosion caused by Metagross) It covers a lot of types and when it comes to the evasive ones, Aerial Ace is most suited :)



"MYSTERIA" @ Leftovers
Timid
Levitate
252 Sp Def, 252 Sp Atk, 6 Speed.
Calm Mind
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Substitute
MYSTERIA was obtained in a trade for my Blissey(SeidyLopez) because my friend needed a "Defensive wall" to complete his team. Apparently, what ive heard from him is that it calm minds as much as possible and when its HP is low, Use substitute. If ive used CM enough then very little Special Moves can break open the substitute. And on predicting a switch in, I use an attack to devastate the opponent.


Im not too sure on practically everything here, and if you could give me some constructive critisism again, i would be very greatful :) thanks.
 

jigglyppuff8

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Don't ever use sandstorm, there's no need for it since there are Pokemon like Tyranitar and Hippowdon. Also, Sandstorm doesn't compliment you're team very well with only 1 other Pokemon being immune. Brightpowder is(or at least should be) banned. Other than that I see no problems. *I move away from the mic to make room for the other raters.*
 

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Don't ever use sandstorm, there's no need for it since there are Pokemon like Tyranitar and Hippowdon. Also, Sandstorm doesn't compliment you're team very well with only 1 other Pokemon being immune. Brightpowder is(or at least should be) banned. Other than that I see no problems. *I move away from the mic to make room for the other raters.*

2 different pokes can be immune to my sandstorm thing. Torterra and Aerodactyl. Plus i can send in My mismagius too. the leftovers cover the damage left by sandstorm.
 

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Ack! Forgot Torterra, forgive me, I'm terrible at this rating thing. But still, you're wasting a turn and a moveslot with that move. That thing will be insta-walled by Bronzong assuming it has levitate(which it should). Also, Ice Fang>Aerial Ace on Aerodactyl, and Froslass, if used well enough, can destroy this entire team.
 

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aerodactyl would be the only one resistant to froslass, unless she has a water type move. you shouldn't leave recovery up to left overs, because what if you take damage and then get a critical super effective which is very probable o this team, you would die too quickley. EMPOLEON can also destroy this team
 

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Sorry zrky, but what you're saying is wrong. Aerodactyl is Rock/Flying so it's weak to Ice Beam, Lefties is Froslass's(and most other Pokemon's) only efficient method of recovering HP after a sub, DON'T EVER UNDERESTIMATE LEFTOVERS, never assume a crit will happen unless it's like Absol or something, and Empoleon would be facing 4 Pokemon that know Earthquake and none of them are in Empoleon's favor(special wall).
 

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I never said ice beam. D*** I forgot about earthquake:(
well if you use scope lens you can get easy critical hits.
I always under estimate leftovers (DON"T KILL ME PLEASE)
 

ozg82889

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if you are going to have sand storm up dont use synthesis as it would only recover 25% hp. replace it with leech seed it will force switches and give you an advantage if you get a pokemon that is switching in.
 

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well ice punch is physical, and sandslash has an OK defense so it wouldn't do much also considering he is ground. but to leave that discussion, honestly, I would NEVER make a sandstorm team
 

zrky

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for sandslash, it should be defense and attack shouldn't it?

how do you do these calcs? it's confusuling to thing about:psycho:
 

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lol i did the calcs...and a Jolly Weavile has a 66.67% chance of OHKOing Toilet's Sandslash (why would u use 252 speed EVs on Sandslash?).
:urg:I was thinking on that myself to be honest. But as you've probably guessed, i'm into the hard hitting ones that are fast.:psycho: Sandslash was an interesting one for me because i thought :ohwell:"hmm... their defense is good, but i dont want him too slow...":ohwell: (please note that i thought Sandslash was pretty fast back then) It was until he wanted to learn Gyro Ball that i realised "This aint a fast poke!!! 0_0"
So yeah. I know what you mean about the speed EV's.:chuckle::chuckle::chuckle:

*Its times like this i thank myself for breeding TWO Sandslashes with the same nature. So that i can try again :)*:laugh:
 

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@ Roy: Or if you want a fast wall, use Gliscor

Weavile weakness is apparent.

Right off the bat, nice .gifs!
"Jessica"(new and improved) @ Choice Scarf
Modest
Levitate
252 Sp. atk, 252 speed, 6HP
Shadow Ball
Destiny Bond
Sludge Bomb
Hypnosis
My opening "one move then switch" pokemon. Usually i would open with the move Hypnosis to get the opponent sleeping, then switch out to something i know can take care of the opposing poke. Although if i have nothing to counter it, (eg. Garchomp) I will use destiny bond and end its life real quick. It attacks if theres nothing to switch to.( i am fully aware that Garchomp is now considered 'Uber' and is no longer useable in competitive play)
Sludge Bomb doesn't cover anything. Try Taunt to prevent SR, early paralysis, and all that nasty stuff that leads tend to do. You DID say one move then switch. You can also try Taunting the Pokemon coming in to prevent setups. Go die in a ditch Lucario. I can see Gengar dying early game, so if you use sandstorm, Gengar won't need to be changed.
"Salvador" @ Expert Belt
Brave
Overgrow
252 Atk, 252 Def, 6HP
Stone Edge
Wood Hammer
Synthesis
EarthQuake
This is basically a follow up to Jessica. It attacks if it can and stays alive with synthesis for as long as possible. This is also a Poke that is not affected by Prickles' Sandstorm ;) Here he comes :3
If you insist on using sandstorm, do as someone else mentioned and use Leech Seed instead. You might want to change your EVs around and make Torterra a lot more defensive. The defense alone might not save you from powerful STAB attacks. Leftovers is mandatory on every Torterra set other than choice and sweeper. As far as I know, Torterra is pretty much an inferior Hippowdon in terms of raw stats. Your noticable advantages is a powerful Grass STAB and your ability, so lets try to take advantage of that. I'm going to propose a new set, and I don't do this often:

Torterra @ Liechi Berry
Adamant/Overgrow
8 HP/252 Atk/248 Spe
-Substitute
-Rock Polish
-Seed Bomb
-Rock Slide/Stone Edge/EQ/Crunch

The EVs allow you to perfectly outspeed +1 Spe, =natured base 90s after a Polish. That means scarfluke and scarfgon-z won't be messing around with you. A Timid nature could be considered to allow you to outrun +1 Spe, =natured base 100s and +1 Spe, +natured base 90s. The HP allows you to substitute 4 times if you ever need the chance. Your final speed stat is 420, so yes. You outrun scarftran (417) *applause*

Overgrow+Liechi+Seed Bomb stings. Wood Hammer isn't used because the recoil isn't very appealing after you have 1/4 HP. Your final moveslot helps you cover whatever you fear most. Rock lets you hit those flying and fire types that would otherwise cause you trouble (salamence). EQ helps hit steels and fires (heatran). Crunch hits those ridiculously fat walls like Cressy and Dusknoir. Coverage is very limited, and Substitute is very hard to sacrifice. If you're feeling brave and foolish, you can opt out of sub for another attack. Make sure you base your final moveslot based on what you believe your foe will switch into Torterra.

*copies and pastes into strategy pokedex*
I haven't used a Torterra EVER, so I looked up a lotta stuff for this one.
"Prickles" @ Brightpowder
Adamant
Sand Veil
252 Atk, 252 Speed, 6 Def
Protect
Stealth Rock/Toxic
EarthQuake
Sandstorm
This is Prickles... My very first Sandslash, Ever. It starts off by using It's 4th move. If it isnt hit on the first turn, then its set up for the rest of the duration of the Sanstorm. Sand Veil and Brightpowder(is that item banned?) = opponent not hitting very often. If it cannot take the opponent out then it SRs it, then uses protect once. and switches out to Salvador or Tavares to keep the damage going.
I recommend you use something OU or BL here. Gliscor, Hippowdon, Rhyperior, or Swampert are all great options. Brightpowder is a noob item. You NEVER want your games to be reliant on luck, at least I don't. That's like trying to play Melee using Jigglypuff's rest with no set-up on a skilled opponent.
"Leslie" @ Muscle Band
Adamant
Intimidate
252 Atk, 252 Def, 6 Speed
EarthQuake
Stone Edge
Dragon Claw
Crunch
Yet another 'all out' attacker that just hits hard and hopes the opponent goes down before it. works a bit like Tavares... which is up next :p
If you want to stick with the sandstorm theme, you could fit Flygon here. Even though Flygon is completely inferior... Ah scratch that. Salamence is pretty much good on any team. If you decide to use sandstorm, try using a bulky salamence. Leftovers could heal off HP lost by sandstorm while you DD. That should more than make up for lost offensive power. Roost cOuLd be used... but you would lose vital coverage. Try to switch up your coverage depending on what you use on Torterra.

If you don't use sandstorm, any Salamence set would work. You could try my super ownage DD, Outrage, Draco Meteor, [filler] set.
"Tavares" @ Expert Belt/Life Orb
Adamant
Rock Head
252 Atk, 252 speed, 6 Def.
Stone Edge
Crunch
EarthQuake
Aerial Ace
This, (as you may alredy know) Is Tavares, and He's a pretty hard hitter and has only died on a switch in. (protecting my old Blissey, from an explosion caused by Metagross) It covers a lot of types and when it comes to the evasive ones, Aerial Ace is most suited :)
If you think I'm a good rater and you want to use sandstorm, use this Drugodactyl set: http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/aerodactyl
Otherwise, Aerodactyl is rather lousy as an all-out attacker. You could try the non-cb attacker set if you'd like. I've only seen Aerodactyls as suicide leads for the past couple months, so I'm not sure what else to say here. P.S. suicide leads suck. You're wasting one Pokemon just for SR. Stick with smogon for Aerodactyl, nothing more I say here will be better than what has already been written in the above link.
"MYSTERIA" @ Leftovers
Timid
Levitate
252 Sp Def, 252 Sp Atk, 6 Speed.
Calm Mind
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Substitute
MYSTERIA was obtained in a trade for my Blissey(SeidyLopez) because my friend needed a "Defensive wall" to complete his team. Apparently, what ive heard from him is that it calm minds as much as possible and when its HP is low, Use substitute. If ive used CM enough then very little Special Moves can break open the substitute. And on predicting a switch in, I use an attack to devastate the opponent.

You have two ghosts on one team. That's not very good for overall coverage. Replace one of them with something that will contribute to your sandstorm strategy. May I recommend an Ice resist?

Im not too sure on practically everything here, and if you could give me some constructive critisism again, i would be very greatful :) thanks.
You're welcome.

On a side note, please ignore Item Clause. Nobody uses it. 6 Pokemon using leftovers doesn't unbalance the game in any way. Item Clause is only in effect for 3-Poke teams. i.e. Battle Tower.
 
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